Personally I don't see why people complain about things that don't affect them in any way. Stop wasting your energy; it's not a big deal. All you're doing is spreading negative vibes.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

yeaa leave the slutty clothes to the high school girls.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

People can dress however they wish.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'll re-vamp my analogy; taking it as a lesson learned I need to be around more old people. That was embarrassing. It's like saying old people shouldn't wear disney shirts or shirts with cartoon characters because they should dress their own age. There's no such thing as a "5 year old shirt" or a "100 year old shirt". Who cares if a 12 year old wears a skirt or a tanktop. Likewise, who cares if a senior citizen wears a shirt depicting a superhero or spongebob. If it bothers you, preach it to your friends not to dress that way. We should really be more open minded towards each other when it comes to apparel. Again, it's a personal choice thing. They want to, and it doesn't offend anyone unless it's really showy. Move on. That was the point I was //trying// to make. P.S. how do you exactly dress like a slut...does wearing a showy top automatically mean you fornicate with the town bums or what. You can be respectful of your body while at the same time not feeling obligated to hide it in fear of being called a whore.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Or you could quit the sexism and stop telling women how to dress, and then victimising them if they don't do it "right"?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Girls, then. The point still stands.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That's not what sexism is.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Sexism isn't trying to control what women/girls do, right down to what they wear, by shaming women/girls deemed "slutty"? That about that ISN'T sexist?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It's not being sexist to keep prepubescence girls from over sexualizing their bodies. "Sexism, also known as gender discrimination or sex discrimination, is defined as prejudice or discrimination based on sex." It's not because their girls or their sluts that it's not ok, so how is that sexism?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

When does anyone say the same about boys? Never. The concept of boys being "slutty" because of what they wear doesn't exist. Even not wearing a shirt is only seen as too "casual". It's not seen as vulgar the way female chests, even only partially exposed, are.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Because guys don't have the same anatomy as women or the same clothes? IF a guy were to walk around with tight short short with his package bulging, people would definitely say something. People still say shit about a guy sagging his pants. What gender you are has nothing to do with it, so it's not sexism.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

What gender you are has EVERYTHING to do with it. Don't compare genitalia to breasts; they are not the same. There's a reason female chests are seen as vulgar whereas male chests are not, even thouh they both have nipples, areola breast tissue. Even a larger man, or a man with gynecomastia, can walk around shirtless whilst a flat-chested woman cannot - it is not the shape or size that deems it vulgar. It's the sole fact that it is attached to a woman. Besides, I thought you said we were talking about "girls" not "women" - before puberty girls' and boys' chests are exactly the same aesthetically. Aside from being fitted for anatomy, having different clothes also has EVERYTHING to do with gender inequality.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

YOU were the one who brought up breasts, when you said "Even not wearing a shirt is only seen as too "casual". It's not seen as vulgar the way female chests, even only partially exposed, are." That is not everything to do with gender. Genders are different, yes. That's not discriminating them. That's why I said it's not ok for a guy to walk around in tight short shorts with their package bulging. It's not ok, not because they're a guy, but because they're showing off the part of their body that is sexualized. It's not discriminating him because he's a guy. When people don't like when either gender do it, how is it sexist? Also, people know when you vote up your own comments.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

What gender you are has nothing to do with it. People don't hate it because you're a boy or a girl. They hate it because no one needs to see that. Just because it involves gender and sex organs doesn't mean it's sexist The reason it's not ok for a girl to walk around shirtless is because she has breasts, and breasts are sexual. A flat chest is not. It's not "the sole fact that it's attached to a woman" that's a problem. Having different clothes does not have EVERYTHING to do with gender inequality do you know how stupid that sounds?? "Sexism isn't trying to control what women/girls do, right down to what they wear, by shaming women/girls deemed "slutty"?" Children are not women. No one is trying to control what women wear. No one is shaming them for being a slut. They're being shamed for showing their private parts in public.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am not saying it's sexist because the parts are different. I'm saying it's sexist because the FEMALE parts are vulgar whereas the male equivalent (which is not penis, by the way, so stop comparing that. I'm talking about chests, not genitalia) is not. That IS to do with gender. There IS a reason that more of a woman is considered "vulgar" than is the case with a man. Female sexuality is put under more scrutiny than male sexuality in pretty much every scenario one could think of. "Genders are different, yes. That's not discriminating them." Arbitrarily treating genders as different is the definition of discrimination. And yes, saying breasts are vulgar whereas male chests - even if they are EXACTLY THE SAME - are not is arbitrary. Even if you argue that the difference is the female part is "sexualized" and the male part is not... yes. And the fact that we sexualise more of a woman than a man is STILL to do with sexism. EDIT: No, children are not women. But girls are female children, and boys are male children. So this is still a gender/sexism issue?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

A man's chest and a females are not EXACTLY the same. Thus they will not have the same reactions. Men and woman are different, they act different, they look different, they think different. A guy isn't able to show off his body, a woman isn't able to show off hers. Yes, they show off different parts of their body. Is that sexist? Acknowledging difference doesn't make you sexist. Just as acknowledging differences in race and culture and having a different way of acting around someone of a different culture (for example, in some places it is disrespectful to look them in the eye. In some you kiss them on the cheek three times) isn't being racist. Just because you treat one person differently than someone who is nothing like them doesn't mean you're discriminating them. One gender isn't being treated better than the other. Maybe you sexualize a woman more, but as a straight female, I can tell you I sexualize men a LOT, but rarely women. Wanting children to dress their age has nothing to do with their sex...? It has to do with them being children. http://amirite.net/725145 http://amirite.net/718899

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Okay, I think we're repeating ourselves now so this'll be my last comment unless you really want to make another point. I'm not arguing that typically male and typically female bodies aren't different. But breasts are NOT sex organs. They're mammories. Sex organs are genitalia, and breasts are not genitalia. They do function differently, yes, (when a woman is lactating at least) but as I said, there is a reason why one is considered acceptable and the other isn't. Also, it isn't a personal sexualisation matter. Women ARE sexualised more, as a culture we do this, yet simultaneously have their sexuality more tightly policed. What a woman does sexually is typically put under more scrutiny than what a man does sexually. This post is not directed at children in general. It is directed exclusively at female children. The concept of "slut" exists because it exclusively polices female sexuality (and don't tell me you call men "sluts" too; the word is directed at females. You can call men "women" for all I care, it's still gendered as a word). That makes this a gender issue. Anyhow, thank you for the interesting discussion. :)

by Anonymous 11 years ago