-201 Uniforms > No uniforms (Uniforms save trouble and laundry) amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uniforms were fine when I had to wear them, the only reason I I didn't like them as much as I would have is that the ones my school chose were cometely uncomfortable, and we all had to drive across town to one little shop that was the only place we could get them

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ew, then that sucks :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

that and it sucks when you have to do a load of uniform laundry, JUST so you will have something to wear at school-when you have a whole closet of beautiful clothing thats wasting away

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't know. I like the idea of uniforms being easier (I go to a public school so I never had to deal with them) but at the same time I like my clothes and being able to choose what *I* want to wear. It may not be a big deal to some people, but as an adolescent I don't get a lot of choices, and taking away the freedom of wearing what I want to wear is just another infringement on my rights as a person. I rely on my parents, I don't get to vote, I can't drive. So I'd at least like to be able to pick out my own outfits.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah but people might dress normally if we didn't have uniforms. Then there's the sluts and cocky people that dress in a way that they obviously shouldn't for school. -It saves laundry, considering you only have to wash 3-4 shirts and pants -You don't have to waste your time picking out an outfit -It avoids conflict between people's tastes (i.e. getting made fun of because something "isn't in style") -It makes the school look neater -And it saves frustration and time since you simply wear the same shirt and pants/skirt everyday. Teenagers can "express" themselves with their clothes outside of school. Wearing a uniform for 6-7 hours a day isn't so bad (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Trust me, I know of all the advantages of uniforms; Our English class had a debate on the subject. However, our school does have a dress code for the people who aren't dressing in an appropriate manner, so it's not like just because we don't have uniforms girls are walking around in a bra and panties. School is probably the most social thing kids do, since everyone their age is there with them. There actually isn't a lot of time left over for people to express themselves after accounting for the school week. How are kids supposed to recognize that they ARE special and unique if they're crammed into the same clothes everyone else is wearing?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are actually a lot of ways to. But it all depends on the uniform. My school is simply a white polo and black pants. Thats it. We can still "express" ourselves with: shoes, beanies, jewelry, undershirts, jewelry, our bookbags, make up, etc. "Expressing" yourself doesn't always mean what shirt and pants you're wearing. It's about who you ARE :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, most schools with uniforms aren't allowed to wear hats, undershirts *unless it's a plain color*, bookbags, and the shoes have to be either white or black, no designs or logos. We can't even wear Vans becuase they are "slippers". I think there shuld be dress codes, but not uniforms. They are a waste of time, for me at least, and if you wear the same thing twice in a row at my school, you'd get made fun of. And it doesn't save laundry, because you have to wash two loads; one from after school and one from during school.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't really save laundry, you know... Whenever I got home from school when I had uniforms, I would change into something to play in or go out in. No that I don't have uniforms, I go out in what I wore at school.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

plus. you have to do laundry more often. like every 3 days instead of just at the end of the week or whatever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

^^that. Some people don't want to be cookie-cutter little robot conformists. I think personal expression is worth an extra load of laundry. And as a guy, I doubt I "no way'd" you because I want to dress like a slut.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmfao, I laughed :D I'm sure all guys would No Way this so the girls dressed like sluts lol.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fuck, I was agreeing with anika. No, I am not going to add all the retarded extra letters.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Bwahaha, thank you. At least someone agrees. And I know my username is annoying, sorry about that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Please don't assume anything... I would just rather wear jeans and a t-shirt to school than my normal polo and khakis. And no, not everyone who goes to a school that has uniforms is a conformist. You're more than what you wear.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank youu (: and I think we'd ALL rather throw on jeans and a white T to school lol.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

School uniforms are just another way to make kids feel like following along with what everyone else does is the only way to be. Between censoring textbooks and that kind of thing, they're trying to make, like GTFO said, little automatons out of you. If you prefer to not think for yourself, that's all well and great for you, but I think most of us would like to hang on to what little freedom of choice we have.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

To be honest, I kept trying to count them and getting fuddled. So I gave up. =P I also understand that people are more than what they wear, but at the age that you're still in grade school there aren't a lot of ways to exert one's individuality except through dress. It helps you identify kindred spirits in the teeming masses, or some such poetic shit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I remember how I stayed in a uniform-less elementary school, then we moved and I went to a middle school with uniforms. Gosh, middle school was probably the easiest time in my life! With uniforms, no one could insult your clothing or make assumptions about how you're poor by clothing, and in the morning I just throw my uniform on and go to school! Way easier with uniforms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Didn't you feel trapped? You're looking at it from a practicality stand point, which is fine, but there's a lot more to it than that, in terms of psychology and whatnot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I did not feel trapped. When I was in elementary school I was always bullied for my clothes. Little retards would always tease me because I wasn't wearing pants worth $100 or something. and then when my sister mentioned how horrible middle school was probably gonna be, I started crying about all the crap that was going to happen. Trust me, I completely loved middle school with uniforms. Made a lot of friends. I moved back and got into the high school with no uniforms. I still loved middle school better.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, I'm glad uniforms worked out for you, however, I'm just saying that I, and a lot of people I know, rely on self expression as an outlet to prove they really are someone, and therefore uniforms wouldn't be a good match.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Seriously. Plus this whole "I need to express myself" excuse is getting old. Since when does expressing yourself mean ONLY the SHIRT and PANTS you wear? It's a lot more than that...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not saying there isn't. But most kids have a lot of nice shirts and pants they'd love to be able to wear freely. What's the point of having a lot of nice clothes if you aren't able to wear them very often?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why are people acting like school is a death trap that we're in 24/7?? O.o we're there from (well where I live) 7:30-2:30. That's it. There's extracurriculars, after school shit, the afternoon, weekends, nighttime, friend's houses, going to parties, etc etc etc. There's so much stuff besides school where we can wear whatever he hell we want.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They can wear them when get home from school. They can wear them when they go to a public place with all their friends. I probably would have made a lot less friends if there weren't uniforms. My mother always gave me hand-me-downs that I one time showed my friends and they were all "Uh..... it's... kinda... uggh." but they really didn't care since we had uniforms and if we did go someplace, I'd wear my non-"uggh" clothes. which I only had a bit of. xD

by Anonymous 13 years ago

here's what you don't understand: I moved to a public highschool my freshmen year, and you've gotta realize is not having a uniform is how you are able to choose friends, because, you gravitate towards those who dress like yourself. Also most schools don't let you wear a beanie or a ton of jewelry, some restrict the color of your shoes and such.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmao seriously? "You choose friends by not having a uniform"? People who choose friends over simply what they're wearing are probably shallow. Having a uniform lets you "gravitate" to whoever the hell you want and actually get to know THEM, not what they're wearing. And yeah, some uniform places are strict. Sucks. Mine isn't though, therefore I love my uniform (: so do my friends.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't think you understand, you can identify people by the way they dress-like it or not-goths, preps, jocks, country kids all exist-sure some people defy the standards, but we can find people who have similar traits.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What? I'm sorry, but even the chicks that wore the same clothes as me in elementary/high did not become my friends. Are you seriously saying that clothes make a big part of friends? You get to know them and THEN become friends. Since I didn't have a uniform, I wasn't bullied for my clothes, which means I was more open to people and made more friends who shared the same interests. Then when people learned my interests, that's when the whole "Oh, you like that too!? 8D " thing came and I made more friends.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What he's Tyler's saying is, say you see a kid with a tshirt promoting a band you like. Chances are you'll go up to them and say "Oh cool! I love [insert band here]!" And that could be the start of a beautiful friendship. Clothes can express people's interests before any conversation even takes place, and may even strike UP a conversation. When I want to meet people, I know I wear interesting clothes or a band tshirt or something that people will want to comment on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and what about people that can't afford these shirts and make friends like that? and how about I simply talk to someone? I've worn shirts like "Justin Beiber" and whatnot, but I dislike his music. Why am I wearing that shirt? because I don't have anything else to wear that day that looks good.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My situation was hypothetical. -_- I'm sorry if it doesn't apply to you. Sometimes it's awkward going up and just talking to someone, because you have no idea what the other person is like. If they're wearing a shirt you like, you at least have a starting point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are a lot of starting points in school. Dropping something, sitting next to someone, being on the same team as someone, being assigned something together, and even meeting another person by friends.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

its an initial reaction, does it sound shallow that I wouldn't approach someone dressed in all black, scary make-up and hair? I think I can assume we don't have much in common. I can thank the clothes. It's a subconscious reaction, we are judgemental people, it is fact. I also learned to stay away from bitches with fake tans to match their fake peasants bags.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Chanel bags

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You actually do get made fun of where I'm from, because there are different kinds of dress shirts we had. If you had a hollister/aero brand you were popular/ pretty/ rich. If you had french toast *pretty much walmart stuff* you'd get made fun of, because the shirt isn't fitted for girls/ boys. It'd be a unisex shirt, and people will make fun o you for that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well lemon, I'm not in high school either, and I think hs girls are annoying as hell- nothing personal meant by that, I just wouldn't date one- so how they dress isn't giving me any jollies. I'm thinking of the bigger picture, and what that kind of conditioning when you're young does to the way you think. We need more free-thinking, not conformity.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Agreed. :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But as I said a million times up there, expressing yourself is MUCH more than the shirt and pants you wear for simply 6-7 hours at school. What happened to having a personality?? Kids, teenagers, adults, period, shouldn't let an outfit restrict them from showing who they really are. Plus it makes the school look nicer. Imagine 3,000 kids in a school "expressing themselves" with the really weird shit some people wear nowadays. Wouldn't be pretty o.O

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, but as a few other people said, you wouldn't have many friends if you didn't know what they were like. You make judgments on people by the clothes they wear. If you see someone that seems like you, you'd talk to them, if they didn't seem like you, chances are, you'd probably just walk past.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@anon 393031: Easier does not equal better. Quite the opposite, usually.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well it was easier for me. Easier for my friends.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uniforms promote equality and unity throughout a school. I personally love my uniform. It's comfortable and I don't have to worry about what to wear the next day and if I'm gonna look cool, or whatever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I find a diverse, colorful crowd full of individuals... weirdness and all... MUCH more pleasing to the eye than bland sameness as far as I can see. Looks like you're already pretty well programmed if you really think a school full of people all looking the same is "pretty", and you refer to people who prefer to think for themselves instead of letting authority figures and magazines tell them what they should be "weird". I keep hearing the Weeds theme song as I read all this...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You're calling people who wear uniforms bland? Don't you think we have talents? Interests? Feelings? and creativity? You're acting like clothing is everything and without creativity of it, you'll explode. I can still show off my creativity without clothing. I can draw, sing, dance, make things, and much more.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He's not saying the people ARE bland, he's saying you LOOK bland, and that a school without uniforms is more fun to look at. Wouldn't you rather play Where's Waldo with all the little people dressed differently? If they all wore the same thing the game would not be fun.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmfao, even though I disagree, I have to say the Waldo reference was quite true (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, but each person has their own creativity. Their own thing that sets them apart from another. In where's waldo, you're just looking at people. In real life, you get to see exactly what they have. You get to see their talents, life, likes, dislikes, and more.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Very true <3

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And since when do we go to school to LOOK at people? You befriend them and get to know who they really are. It's funner getting to really know someone instead of right off the bat judge them for what they're wearing that day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You sound like an old person... Chances are you're not in high school anyways. This post was strictly for high school-ers. And I've only had uniforms for one school year since our school just recently changed it. And honestly, everyone liked it ten times better. A lot of school deal with cliques and outcasts and whatnot just because of what they WEAR. Having uniforms just seems like people can focus more on who some one IS instead of what they're wearing. I could care less about what other people wear, but when it comes to uniforms it just challenges people to express themselves in a completely different way. Btw, wtf? "Weeds" theme song, really? You're making it sound like people don't have personalities, creativity, emotions. Not everything is about clothes :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Facepalm* I am not saying that people don't have personalities. Actually, I'm saying the exact opposite. People have extremely vibrant personalities and should be able to express them through their clothes. Conforming everyone like that is a way of showing they're all the same, which they're clearly not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

but if they have such amazing personalities why can't they just take off this one little show of creativity so they can stop others from being seen as poor, stupid, unstyle-ish and whatnot?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When I say "people" I mean everyone, not just the people who can afford nice clothes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And again I state, since when did EXPRESSING mean CLOTHES? We still wear clothes. Every single place we go. Just because we wear the same thing at school shouldn't disable you from expressing yourself any less. Seriously. How some talks, what they say, how they walk, the jokes the make, how the wear their hair, the gestures they make, the friends they have, along with sooooo much other shit are all ways to show who you are. I really don't remember when uniforms suddenly took those things away.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Groans* I KNOW it doesn't. The point I am trying to get across is, adolescents should be given the choice to wear what they want. They're told what to do in every other situation of their lives, so why not just give them this one opportunity to make their own decisions and do what THEY want to do? There isn't so much harm in that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and there isn't much harm in taking them away either. It's like taking a cookie from the cookie jar. You still have the other cookies, I doubt that one less will matter. Either way, people can get liked or hated by what they wear. I'd rather them not get hated for it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe there is harm. Like GTFO said, putting kids in uniforms from the start of their educational experience can create psychological issues, having kids not understand that they are in fact different from their peers. Nice analogy with the cookies, by the way, but now I want a snack. -_- But anyway, I've yet to meet someone who was outright hated for their clothes. You all are trying to say that there are more to people than the clothes they wear, and yet you say kids get made fun of for how they're dressed. Maybe it's not just the clothes doing it. Putting them in a uniform won't change the person inside, and chances are they'll still be bullied.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It is when you have people that don't dress normally (i.e. sluts). A school board can't exactly trust a school of 2,500+ TEENAGERS to ALL obey not wearing low pants, not wearing tube tops/tanks, not wearing see through shirts, not wearing super short skirts and shorts, not wearing vibrant bras, not wearing chains and spikey shit, not wearing basically nothing and/or pajamas! It just makes more sense to keep it in order I guess :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There have been countless occasions at my school where people have been reprimanded or even sent home for disobeying the dress code. It's not uncommon, as long as teachers do their jobs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah but they wouldn't need to be reprimanded if they simply wore a uniform that didn't violate any of the codes and rules the school has. If they're being sent home, it's because they were obviously wearing something inappropriate and will probably do it again. And if they don't, someone else will. It's less work and strict enforcement from the staff if kids wore uniforms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

NO. That is not true! Girls still wear their polos unbuttoned to see their boobs, wear super tight pants, and guys still wear their pants lower. No matter what you put people in, uniforms or not, people will be angry. Uniforms trap souls who want to be themselves, and can't do that if they're shy and don't talk to people. I'm an example as this. When I'm in my uniform, I don't talk to many people at all. I stay anitsocial. But on dress down days, where we get to wear what we want, I"m the brightest happiest person you'd ever see. In a nut shell, I get depressed when in uniform.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Alright, look. I know we're not in school ALL the time, but a good chunk of our lives are spent there. As for extracurriculars, if you're on a sports team, you wear a uniform. Other clubs generally extend from the school day, leaving one stuck in their uniform. Yes, you can wear what you want when you hang with friends or you're out at a party, I get that, but it's not enough. People should be able to wear the clothes they spent their money on when they want to. And as for everyone who says uniforms are more practical, I understand your reasoning, however, wouldn't it be easier to wear different clothes from your wardrobe, instead of having to wear and wash the same uniforms over and over? I think ultimately more laundry would have to be done in that situation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes made of ticky-tacky Little boxes on the hillside Little boxes all the same ...and the children in the houses All went to the university Where they were put in boxes And they came out all the same... Win.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, at 22 I'm ancient and couldn't possibly have any insight into high school issues. *eyeroll* I already said I wasn't in hs, so it wasn't any great epiphany you just had. And anika, you don't need to feel bad; you aren't wrong. And yes, of course, I didn't mean people in uniforms are bland; I meant the view is, obviously. Boring and slightly creepy, as well.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and yet when they start singing, dancing, drawing, and doing other things to express themselves you just see them as bland, boring, and creepy?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've yet to meet someone who stood in the middle of the school hallway singing, dancing, drawing, or doing anything other than walking or talking. o_o

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Even if they're walking and talking they can still express themselves with how they talk, what they talk about, ect. and in my high school, there a few close-knit friends that like singing in the hallways and skipping to class. xD

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmao I do that shit! My friends and I are weird... Why walk to class when you can sing cherrfully to your iPod and dance through the halls? Upperclassmen get away with the stupid shit (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You're allowed to have iPods? WE're not. We actually get yelled at for skipping into classrooms/ dancing. The teachers yell at us, and so do the hall CPOs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah exactly, you were in high school 4 years ago. Either way, obviously you're one for looks. Some people are just too lazy to get to know someone and just get bored because they're wearing the same thing. Oh well. I still love uniforms, so idagf :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Also, as a last post to the op- the Weeds song goes through my head because I see the big picture, where apparently you don't. I understand how conditioning and behavior control- basically brainwashing- through grade school affects a person later in life. It starts with uniforms, and ends who-knows-where. I also understand poor kids can get picked on for what they wear, but honestly do you think people who need to look down on others to feel good about themselves will be suddenly stymied? As you've said, you don't live your whole lives at school, and if someone is poor it's going to come out anyway. If their clothes don't get made fun of, it will be something else- lack of expensive gadgets or a car, whatever. Middle and highschool are just like that... what if the uniforms are unflattering to fat people? They're just going to get made fun of more. People will be mean to each other in school- you said yourself that you refer to some girls as sluts based on what they wear, ...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"It starts with uniforms, and ends who-knows-where." What? Where's your proof? You're making it sound like having uniforms is some disease that will slowly eat at you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

LMAO, omfg thank you. Couldn't have said it better :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fat people? There's this magical thing called SIZES. Most uniforms are just polos and some specific colored pant. I think you're talking about career uniforms, which is a whole other story. In high school at least, YES there are sluts. Because I've practically seen a girl's vagina, tits, and ass cheeks the years where my school didn't have uniforms. Uniforms are probably better for poor people too. Because if they dont have so many clothes and wear the same thing always, they might get picked on by assholes :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wish I had uniforms. You should see what half the people wear... -__-

by Anonymous 13 years ago

^ 'Nuff said, Atomic Cow, 'nuff said *shakes head disapprovingly*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I seriously think GTFO and I are the only people who are willing to recognize the negative side of uniforms. Maybe it's because we prefer thinking for ourselves instead of doing what we're told, I don't know. But clearly we're not going to be swayed, and neither are you all.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This post is basically just a conflict between lazy people and non-lazy people if you think about it. Uniforms are better in the real world, period :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not really. We're lazy because we don't want to approach someone who makes us want to puke/get scared/ or want to slap? I can identify a total bitch by what she's wearing. If she's following the dress code very closely and I can't detect it, I'd walk up to her and say hi. She'd turn away in disgust because I'm not like her. The same thing with a slut, when we get out of school she could be a prostitute, and I don't think I'd wnat to hang out with her.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(annniiikkaa) Just because students wear the same thing doesn't mean they don't realize they're different. I mean, the day I started school, I was wearing a uniform just like everyone else. We all wore them all through elementary school, and if I hadn't transferred, I would still be wearing one. We all knew we had our own personalities.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Basically, if everyone wears a uniform, while it does eliminate countless problems, it makes more, and sometimes evenb worse problems. Its great that kids wouldn't have to be judged by appearance and blah blah. But those of you saying "poor" kids can't afford new clothes: do you think uniforms are free? And most uniformed schools are private schools, or schools in places that don't really have many poor people. The way a student dresses is a way for them to express themselves. Maybe they would like to wear a plain t-shirt and jeans, or maybe somthing more. But who are you to tell me what I can, and cannot wear to school. School is a huge part of our life, don't we want people to know what we're like, and how we want to express ourselves. Shouldn't we at least get that freedom?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its really annoying how teenagers act like school is a 24/7 death camp. Whatever. Its annoying dealing with ignorant people lol.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say it was a death camp..? I said it was a large portion of our day. And yeah, school has many rules. Do we honestly need to add MORE? School is not a death camp at all. Sometimes it can be fun, we get to see our friends, and sometimes we do cool stuff. But, school is basically adults always telling us everything that we can't do and what we can do. I don't think some teacher or principal that I don't know should have any right to tell me that the clothes I have spent so much money on and the style i have worked on my whole life to show what i'm like is not allowed. I shouldn't have to waste all my clothes and spend more money on pointless uniforms. And no, i'm opretty positive i'm not fucking ignorant, so yeah.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

First off, your PARENTS pay for maybe FOUR shirts and FOUR pants. Thats it. An entire wardrobe costs ridiculously more than getting a couple shirts. Not to mention, obviously a school tells you what to and what not to do? What do you want them to do? Have no rules at all and let all hell brake loose? Plus MANY public high schools have uniforms. Not only private schools. And AGAIN, its usually just a polo and some pants. Not a strict ass policy. And if kids like you hate uniforms and rules (that keep a school from becoming crazy and disorganized and a joke) then don't go to a school with uniforms period? Better yet, stay at home where you can wear whatever you want and "express" yourself freely as you wish (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Still, those uniforms are expensive, and most kids don't have a billion shirts and a billion pants in general. I don't often buy many new clothes and I don't spend much money on them in the first place. Buying a few new pairs or nice pants and nice shirts is a LOT of money, and its completely pointless. having a dress code is much smarter than having uniforms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uniforms are exprensive if you don't want to get made fun of. Kids still make fun of others if they don't have hollister brand polos. Those shirts are 50$ a peice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Technically, schools still tell you what not to wear. All schools have a dress code. And schhols that have uniforms also have days to wear whatever you want. My school had "jeans days" every month, where we could come in in jeans and a tee shirt. And, like everyone keeps saying, school is not our entire life. We do go other places.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

oh awesome! So for one whole day the entire month I actually get to be myself! WOW! Thats so awesome. Bullshit. I'd rather be myself EVERY day. Not just one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Be yourself in the morning, after school, at home, OTHER DAMN PLACES BESIDES SCHOOL. Since when is school a stupid fashion show? There's other ways to "be yourself" besides how ever the hell you dress. Nobody cares about how you dress. Jeez.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its not like we have so much time after school. School has all of our friends, and everyone, that we can't always see after. Although school is only a few hours, its a huge chunk of our day. So, no we don't have much time after school to be ourselves. And why am I going to waste clothes after school when I won't see anyone. Thats just adding more laundry to the pile.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow. Then you have NO life. "There's not much time after school"? Really? Do you go to bed at like 7? You go to friend's houses, parties, after school shit, work, stuff on the weekends, the mall, etc. There's so much shit to do besides school, its ridiculous. You can be yourself where ever the hell you want. We're not at school 24/7.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I get home at four. I do homework until seven. I eat dinner at seven, then finish my homework by eight. On a school night, you think i'm gonna go over my friends house to have a party at like nine thirty when i have to wake up the next morning at 7? No. So, yeah basically on weekdays, there are few occasions when people see each other outside of school, unless its right after school, in which case, i'd still be wearing a uniform.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um kinda creepy that you gave me your entire schedule. Dress CODES, people don't follow. Especially whores. Plus uniforms aren't even expensive. Even if they were, what is it? Maybe $100 total for NUMEROUS YEARS, instead buying a bunch of shit here and there throughout the years which totals to god knows how much. And again, few occasions? No life.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

uhh, newsflash: you're still you. Your personality still exists, whether you're wearing jeans or a uniform. And you have obviously never worn one, because you can learn to express yourself, while wearing your uniform, by doing a few things that don't break the dress code.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Seriously. Well said :P This person ^ is an idiot if they think a personality is destroyed by just wearing a shirt and pants that everyone else is wearing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

there is much more freedom when you have a dress code than being able to wear like a necklace with your uniform. No matter what you do to it, everyone is wearing the same thing. And yeah, you do kind of lose your personality. Obviously, you still have one, and you are still your own person. But part of who you are is how you dress.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um not really? So you're saying if we walked around naked (and it wasn't illegal or anything, clothes were never invented) then oh, we automatically don't have personalities because that band shirt and pair of skinny jeans and bracelet are the ONLY way to TRULY express ourselves? Bullshit. People that think personality is taken away by a uniform you wear 5 times a week, are either shallow or ignorant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say our personality was taken away. I clearly stated we still had our personality. However, part of our personality is molded by the clothes we wear. You think someone with a peppy and happy personality would dress in completely dark colors all the time and dress "sad" or whatever, and vise versa. No. Personality is slightly modled by clothes, and thats the way it is. We still have our personality, but we have no way to show it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think that there's a better way to express your personality rather than clothes, especially since a lot of people judge people depending on the clothes they wear and uniforms help to reduce the line between poor and rich, 'stylish' and 'not stylish' ect. I think poeple don't appreciate uniforms until they have to wear them and realize it is so great when you wake up 5 minutes before class and aren't scared to throw on a uniform and not worry about what people think.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Even if we do wear uniforms, the people who judge others based on looks are still going to judge them. Whether there are uniforms or not. "oh, you think that necklace looks good? Ew no" SO yeah, no matter what we wear, we will be judged. So we should wear what we want. And the whole school shouldn't be punished just cause on asshole is too lazy to wake up on time. Plus, I lay my clothes out the night before, so even if I do wake up late, it doesn't matter, cause I already know what to wear. Its not MY fault that you don't understand that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well there's some girls that actually don't give a million and six shits on how they look in school. We may give 2 shits, but not so many like you're implying. Clothes aren't everything :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry if its "shallow" but yeah, I do care how I look. I want to make a good impression on people, and I want to look nice. Sorry.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Good impressions are made by who you ARE not what you're wearing. If you walk up to a girl who's wearing an amazing shirt, perfect pants, beautiful jewelry, and nice shoes and says something STUPID or BITCHY to you, oh it's fine. But as long as her outfit was nice :D -.- please.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh my God. I didn't say that. If you saw someone on the street wearing something that you liked, you would think they were cool, and that would be your first judgement on them. It could change if you talked to them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uhm, no. Everyone makes impressions by clothes before we talk to them. If a girl walks down the street wearing old raggedy clothes that are very dirty and had holes in them *pretty much looking homeless* people wouldn't want to talk to her.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

clothing isn't the only thing that makes you look nice... makeup, hair, jewelry, and even how you carry yourself all add to the impression you make on people. Caring about how you look is good, but I think that uniforms would help teach teens how to care about personality more, as it's overlooked a lot in my school (no uniforms). It's not making a conformist nation just by wearing uniforms and despite what has been said- teens do have a lot of freedom! Not as much as adults, but wait a few years and ya do... I also have to second what lemon said

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obviously, no matter what anyone says, I am never going to think uniforms are okay. Schools are taking away our freedom to express ourselves, and however you want to phrase it, thats the truth. They make us wear everything the same, and even with uniforms, there is still a dress code. they are taking away one of the few ways to express ourselves, and thats what it comes down to. No matter what the benefits may be, I can have those same benefits, plus being able to express myself, if i just wear what I want to wear.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You are very shallow... and overly dramatic. As stated in probably 50 other posts, there are so many other ways to express yourself than through clothing!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And how old are you? Because the logic you're using sounds that of a 12 year old. MAYBE 13. Plus, this post was made for high school-ers. Since we could probably go about the argument in a more mature way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

actually, I'm in high school. So, yeah.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you. Well said *claps* (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are different ways to express yourself, but when are you going to have time to do that in school. Sure, if you can draw really well, a person may come by and say "Hey, that's really good" ... but that's it. If your school doesn't offer a dance club or a music program, how else are we going to express yourself? Clothes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(loveyoualattexx) But while it has more freedom, a dress code is a lot more hassle. You have to make sure your skirt is the right length, your tank top straps are the right width, etc.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What kind of uniform did YOU have? o.O I've never heard of length and width shit before. It's usually just a specific colored polo and pair of pants. That's it. Measurements is just a bit extreme.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So? Just don't buy slutty clothes. Wear a t-shirt. Its not hard.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

for my uniform (im a guy)its just easier you get up and just put the uniform on you dont even think about it,you dont even care after awhile

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Exactly. Plus it saves girls (im a girl) the hassle and pressure to "always look pretty". I don't give a shit! Lol. I wake up, put on my white polo and black pants and I'm out :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Some girls want to have their say in their clothes. If its too much hassle to "always look pretty" then you don't have to try and look pretty? Wear whatever you want..Not what other people want you to wear. You wear what YOU think if pretty.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah. Which involves time and effort (things most of us high schoolers probably don't want to give at 7 a.m.). Not to mention a lot of money considering buying new clothes "for the new year" EVERY year is FAR more expensive than buying 3 or 4 shirts and a pair of pants that the school asks for.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What grade are you in anyways? 8th or something? I need to know so I can understand the immaturity.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No. I'm in high school. And I don't buy new clothes EVERY year. When I have money that I'm not saving to be able to buy myself a car, then every once in a while, I go shopping.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um, yeah okay. Seriously you're too shallow and ignorant to argue with. It's annoying lol. Keep thinking the shirt and pants you wear truly define who you are and schools are torture places that, god forbid, had rules (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

First of all, I'm not shallow, nor am I ignorant, just because I feel like students should be able to express themselves however they want. Just because you disagree with me, doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I don't think only clothes define who you are, but the clothes you wear are part of your style, and they are part of who you are. And I never ever ever said schools were torture places, I even said that I like school, we sometimes do fun things and we get to be with our friends and getting an education is extremely important. And I know schools have rules, which is why I feel like they don't need even more rules than they already have. Why do they have to take away our freedom to wear what we please? Is it so unreasonable to you that students actually might have a choice to what their style may be?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um please. Be quiet :P No Way-ers are overreacting. Clothes aren't THAT important and don't TRULY define us. It only defines SHALLOW people that give a shit about shirts and pants. Hell, we started out NAKED AS FUCK and still managed to mold our personalities into what we are. Its not that important and its not that much "freedom" so yeah. Ignorant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

oh my god, will you just shut up already. The argument is over. I think that the reason peopple buy clothes, other than obviously the fact the no clothes is inapropriate, is because they want to let people see their personality. The reason we have different syles of clothing and whatnot is because people are different and one of the ways we can show that is through our clothes. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me, thats not my problem. However calling me ignorant and shallow does not make you any more right than me. Surprise, surprise, someone in the world has a different opinion than you, shocker! But just because you don't agree with me, doesn't make me stupid. I understand the good parts about uniforms, its less of a hassle and no one gets made fun of for clothes. I get that, but i think that the way you dress is a good way of knowing someone's style, not their whole personality, but its a good indicatoin. I'm sorry if you're too idiotic to understand.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh wow I didn't even bother reading such a long ass a novel. Lol your idiotic sense of reason doesn't really matter to me. Go overly care about your clothes, fine by me (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You know, you're kind of a bitch.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't really, there are girls who still wear 10 pounds of makeup or have diamond jewlery, versus those who dont. A girl is still pressured to look pretty even with uniforms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

or get homeschooled and avoid the issue altogether ;) :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Shooo, AMEN.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(lemon1234567890) No, I was saying dress codes require all that stuff if it isn't uniforms. Sorry, I guess I kinda just went a little off there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ohhh. My uniform is just a white polo with the school's logo and black pants. Thats it :P no measurement shit lol.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(loveyoualattexx) a tank top or a skirt doesn't mean slutty. If my ass and boobs can stay in without me having to hold them in with my hands all the time, it's not slutty. And for my dress code, it's four inches above the knee for skirts, and three fingers for tank tops. I always make sure I have more, because I don't feel like getting stopped and measured. And besides, I live in Florida. Sometimes, it's too hot for jeans and tee shirts

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm in Florida too. I haven't worn pants in two weeks, its so damn hot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wouldn't mind our uniform, if it wasn't so ugly! I go to a public school with uniforms (it is stupid). We have to wear navy or black bottoms and a white or grey polo shirt. The prrivate school next door to us can wear khaki, green, pink, white, orange, and light blue. Its like they're laughing in our faces.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well then your uniform sucks >.< in schools where kids LIKE the color of their uniform, then there's a million times better chance that they prefer uniform as opposed to no uniforms.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Am I the only one that finds it funny how a lot of posters here are YYA'd this and most of the people that NW'd this aren't posting why?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmao exactly.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

As a student who wears both school uniforms and my JROTC uniform, I don't see the point in the expressing yourself argument at all. I'm a girl, and I own several things that are in dress code that express exactly who I am: knee high converses, khaki skinny jeans, ties, small pins, hairbows, the works. It's not like they're sucking the individuality out of you, they're just trying to unite the school under one code of decent dress. Sure, they do make you look similar to your classmates but they also make your school look better when worn correctly. As one of four children, uniforms are a laundry blessing. They're easy to choose from, I usually go with either a khaki skirt and converse, or a pair of skinny khakis with ballet flats and a tie. I express myself the way I'm allowed to, through my actions, words, and how I involve myself with my school. For those of you who don't know how to express yourself without clothing, go get a personality and a few trinkets and stop whining.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, I like to wear all of the stuff you do, but we cant wear it. We aren't aloud to have kneehigh Chucks because they are "boots" and boots arent allowed in the school. You can come to school wearing them, but have to take them off when you get there. We can't wear any type of jeans, no matter what color. We can't wear pins because they have a logo/ design on them. The ties have to be one color, no designs. They're starting to think about taking away hair bows too because they could "promote gang violence". Maybe if our uniforms were a bit looser, I wouldn't care. But since we aren't allowed to wear any of that stuff, we feel badly about uniforms. We're not even allowed to wear leggings. If we had a little bit of leway, maybe it wouldn't suck.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Where do you live? I'm in Alabama, where gang violence isn't noticed until the very last minute. The only reason we are even in uniforms is because of the guys who feel the need to let their butts hang out and the girls who don't feel the need to keep their stuff to themselves. I've found that it doesn't change the students themselves, they've just customized it to the best of their abilities.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I live in Ohio *toledo public*. Our city is in the top 10 dangerous cities *going by crime rate to size ratio*. Sure, they have reason to suspect everything is gang related, but nothing bad has happened in our schools violent wise, other than petty fist fights.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wouldn't want to wear a uniform to school just because it would be more uncomfortable than my regular clothes, and I am very happy wearing the clothes I own now to my school. Also I don't see how uniforms save laundry. Wouldn't you have to wash it everyday to wear it to school again? Oh and also, just because I don't wear a uniform to school doesn't mean that I dress like a slut. I will usually wear a T-shirt to school and a skirt, but it's one of those skirts that have the pants underneath so they can't see your underwear. I will wear anything that is comfortable to school. Also remember that the schools have a dress code so you can't wear certain clothes that will make you look like a slut.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are also other and more important ways to express yourself then your cloths like your personality,what you say, how you act, and how you treat other people which i think might be more important then your cloths. Also the comfort argument is valid but for the most part uniforms arent as uncomfortable as you'd think

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I like no uniforms. I just feel more comfortable in the clothes I pick out. I don't spend too much time on my clothes, I just throw on a T-shirt and jeans and I'm ready.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think uniforms do take away from students originality..which is wrong

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think a lot of kids aren't actually mature enough to cope with individuality (hence bullying etc) until they're older. My school had uniform til year 12 and then we could wear whatever. It was good coz by that time everyone had already accepted each other so what we were wearing would no longer effect opinions of each other.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uniforms are TERRIBLE! I don't even like wearing the Senior team spirit shirts everyone wears during spirit week. Looking exactly the same as everyone else creeps me out. Where's the originality?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I personally love them. Not having to think bout what to wear in the morning. We have enough options though so no one really ever looks the same. We also have freedom with our shoes and sock that type of thing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I prefer uniforms because it avoids people being picked on because of what brands they wear I would rather avoid that problem than be able to "express yourself". And uniforms are just easier than picking out a new outfit everday!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are many different types of uniforms. Some allow some things, and others dont. I happen to have an uninmaginably strict uniform *toledo public schools* and we aren't allowed to, in a nut shell, tailor our uniforms. We can't wear leggings, boots, shoes with designs/ aren't neutral colors, and alot of other things.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think it's easier in the morning when you have to get ready. It's so much easier than looking for something decent to wear. Especially on laundry days, and whatnot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think uniforms are better cuz when you go out in the weekends with your friends, you have different clothes to wear that they havent seen in school.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My school didn't have uniforms, and I am so happy my new school will. In my first school, all I could see were boobs, guys' underwear, and some girls who had no fashion sense whatsoever and dressed like 50 year old ladies. T_T Next year I have a "uniform" and by that I mean we have a required skirt (Im in an all-girls school next year) and we have to have closed shoes, and we can wear any hat we want and any solid t-shirt (polos, or v-necks, or whatever) and on fridays we can wear whatever e want (yay!) But I'm really happy we have a uniform because its a very expensive school, and half the kids are super-uber rich, and the rest are average middle class from public schools on financial aid. I'm oe of the few who are in between. My family is not living in a mansion, but we dont need financial help and we are pretty well off. I think the uniform/dress code is better so girls dont get made fun of for not wearing designer clothes

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Once you're in college and have to do your own laundry and realize people would know you were wearing the same shirt all week, you start to miss those uniforms (except for the tucking in shirt crusades, I don't miss those)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know I am replying late, but alot of the people who are for uniforms are the shallow ones, calling people sluts and things because they express themselves. Yeah, some people dress terrible, but personaly, I love expressing myself through my clothes, It shows who I am, and sets me apart from others right away. As for uniforms, most are quite shapless, you don't get to wear anything that actually fits and shows off good features.

by Anonymous 13 years ago