+568 People shouldn't make fun of things they don't understand. Cutting, anorexia, alcoholism: they're all wrong, but everyone has their reasons. Don't be so quick to judge, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We do understand them, and they're wrong, as you said. You make it seem as if people can't possibly control their actions. People need to take responsibility for their actions.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

" You make it seem as if people can't possibly control their actions." No, she doesn't. You're completely missing the point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's implied that because of whatever reasons, people can't help themselves. They can, it's their fault entirely. I didn't miss any point. I will continue to laugh at alcoholics, anorexics, cutters, etc. Because they choose to ruins their lives. They're not bound to the activity by any means, they choose to continue. I will continue to laugh at the six kids at my school who were put in jail for murder. They chose to fuck their lives up. I will not laugh at the victim, however. It was forces upon him. I won't laugh at the families of the alcoholics, the anorexics, or the cutters, because they didn't choose it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well said :) i totally agree with you

by Anonymous 13 years ago

" It's implied that because of whatever reasons, people can't help themselves." In no fucking way is that implied. You're just seeing what you wanna see. Maybe you have a perfect fucking life (it wouldn't surprise me 'cause you're acting like a spoiled brat) but most people don't and sometimes when people are stressed beyond their breaking point they make some bad decisions. Am I saying they're not responsible for their actions? Fuck no, but I am saying that I can understand why some of them do the things they do and therefore I try not to judge to harshly before I actually know the person because of a little thing called "empathy" you may have heard of it. By the way kudos to comparing alcoholism etc. to murder, I see what you did there, you cheap fuck.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's completely implied. How am I acting like a spoiled brat? I'd consider myself lower-middle class, if anything. Shit, I'll be moving soon because I won't be able to afford this apartment anymore. It's still peoples' fault when they make those bad decisions, not anyone else's. I still don't see why we should show sympathy for people who conciously decide to ruin their lives. It's just not right, and they're not deserving. I did compare alcholism to murder, because they're similar. Murderers are condemned for their actions, while we want to show alcoholics some sympathy? No way. There's no excuse for murderers, but alcoholics have their reasons and we shouldn't judge? Double standard right there. Bullshit. By the way, alcohol is attributed for 100,000 deaths per year in the US, is the 3rd leading preventable cause of death in the world, and is attributed to 60% of murders in the US. It's serious shit, and affects more than just the alcoholic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*sigh* You're impossible. I could write a long reply pointing out the things you're misunderstanding, but judging from how much of my previous comment you understood it would seem utterly pointless. I give up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I have to say that I HATE this comment. My dad is rich, I'm the baby in the family and have always been spoiled rotten, and I was briefly bulimic and I cut myself for three years. Being spoiled and being ignorant are two different issues and have nothing to do with anything.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

get your fucking facts straight. Sometimes, anorexia, cutting, etc is caused by depression and anxiety. Who in the fuck would ever bring a disease upon themselves. Yeah, depression and anxiety and diseases, and you can be hospitalized for them. Depression isn't a choice people bring upon themselves, its something out of their control so shut the fuck up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So being depressed or having anxiety automatically makes you a cutter or alcoholic? Way to be presumptuious and generalizing and miss the point of my post all at the same time. For every depressed person that cuts, there are 100 that don't, 100 that prove my point, 100 that realize that being depressed isn't an excuse. Maybe you should reread everything I said and analyze it in-depth, because you obviously didn't grasp anything I said the first time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe you should stop making generalizations. I cleeeearly said "Sometimes, anorexia, cutting, etc is caused by depression and anxiety" key word: SOMETIMES. I didn't say that everyone who has depression cuts, i said that SOMETIMES its a real disease. I've cut myself before, and i'm almost positive i have some sort of depression or anxiety. Its not like i wake up and say "hmm. today, i'm gonna bitch and moan about my life! its so hard!!! i gotta cut myself!" no. It something in your mind, you feel dead inside and like you have no control over anything. the physical pain gives you control, and gives you a reason as to why you're hurting. So if you haven't experienced it, be fucking glad and shut the fuck up. I hope you never get married, because whoever has to spend their life with you will surely go into depression from all your bullshit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I still fail to see why you bring depression or anxiety into it, nothing I said has anything to do with it. I clearly criticized the person's choice to do something, not the reasons behind it. Actually, cutting works because your brain releases chemicals that make you feel better when it senses your body has been damaged. You don't know anything about me, so stop making assumptions. You have no idea how depressed I can get on a day to day basis, and you have no idea that there's an incredibly good chance that I'm bipolar. You have no idea that suicide plagues my thoughts daily. You have no idea. I just don't cut, kill myself, or get addicted to some substance because i'm stronger than that. I'm stronger than that because I realize that no matter how bad I feel, I have the final say in what I do. You chose to cut yourself, I chose not to. By the way, I should mention that my ex-girlfriend gave up cutting after she met me, because I made her life easier.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, well pbviously everyone is different. It doesn't make you weaker because you cut and like you said, you have thought about suicide which obviously means that you're not an all powerful person. I deal with shit a different way than you, and other people deal with it different than me. But it doesn't mean you are weak. There is something in your mind that tells you to do it, and you can't control it. Its a nice feeling and once you do it a few times, you get addicted. As much as you don't want to do it, you can't just decide to quit an addiction. If you could then life would be way easier.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It does make someone weak, though. Weakness isn't having the thoughts, weakness is giving in to the temptation. I never said I was all powerful, just too strong to harm myself in any way. You can quit an addiction, you can. The only reason you couldn't is because you set that limit on yourself. Limits set on oneself are far stonger than any addiction. People can't break them if they believe they can't, and people won't believe they can if we keep saying that it's not possible or that it's not their fault. I can't make people realize how powerful willpower is, but I can present the information to them and hope they make the decision to better themselves. If, with this knowledge, they still choose not to do anything, I can do nothing for them. That's why they get no sympathy from me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do you think people want to continue living their life and hating it? Obviously not. If someone could easily quit an addiction that is taking over their life, pretty sure they would. It doesn't make you weak, it makes you human.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I have tons of scars on my wrists & legs. And I'm dealing with anorexia. These were triggered by the way my parents have treated my whole life, they never paid any mind to me. My brothers were and are their center of attention, I have resorted to cutting and not eating to make them notice me, and to express my pain. Now, I KNOW that's not the way I should handle it, but you try just once being in a situation where you've never been or felt loved. And you tell me how you manage to deal with it. The reason I'm scared to ask for help is because there are people like you who are SO ignorant about problems like these!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can handle your damn problems however the fuck you want. Just realize that it's your fucking choice, and you're the one ultimately in control of your actions. No excuses. If you truly didn't want to cut or be anorexic, you'd stop. There's nothing physically forcing you to do either. I would handle that situation by not doing anything. I would know, because I feel that way all the time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Anorexia is a mental disease and physically cannot be stopped. Mind over matter isn't how life works. Alcoholism before you become an alcoholic can be prevented, but to some extent is hereditarily passed on. So shut the fuck up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've disagreed with most of what you have said in your arguments so far. This comment, though, I strongly agree with. I think that you do have the decision to stop doing what you're doing, whether it's cutting or drinking. However, I think what you aren't realizing is that, once someone does make that decision, you cannot condemn them, look down on them, and mock them for not having made the best decisions.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, so if your life is hurting, you feel your best decision is to make it worse. Have you tried to make i better yet?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, Alcoholism is actually a disease. Cutting yourself and anorexia is because you don't feel good about yourself. Okay, there are people who are starving in Africa who try to live, and there are lower-middle class Americans who just "can't take the pressure". I don't feel sorry for them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Nobody wants to blame themselves these days.... You're addicted to something until you realize that your addiction is getting in the way of your ambitions. I HATE when someone says they can't help that they're obese or that Tiger Woods was addicted to sex. It's complete bullshit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

HATE ANOREXICS! it's a crappy insecure teenage girl 'disorder'

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(proudlady!): bullshit.a crappy insecure teenage girl 'disorder'?their is so much more to anorexia than insecurity or anything else. it takes control of your life, and the saddest part of it is, you can never really recover, the rest of your life you always feel a guilty when you eat something you "shouldn't"....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So people are afraid to eat food? Alright, now that only seems against all nature. You kinda need food to live, and if people care more about their looks than their health, well then, why are they still doing alive?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Huh? it's not the fear of food. it's about the fear of gaining weight, ruining your body, feeling like you're a failure. most anorexics are that way because they feel like their lives are out of control, so they want to know they have complete control of their bodies...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's exactly it. For me, it's that one aspect of my life where I can totally control how things turn out. And its also from NOT getting told you look good,pretty or physically attractive in anyway, I've been told that I'm fat my whole life and that has set me to a point of pain where I want to control it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

anyways, like i said before, my doctor threatened to send me to therapy if i didn't start gaining weight. although i can say it now, i refused to believe i had a problem. anyways, i had no choice but to put on weight, and although it took about two years i'm now at a healthy weight, but the thing is it screws you up for life, I STILL can't eat without obsessively thinking about calories, i don't enjoy food, because i still am too concerned about the calories... anyways, i think it's sad that your struggling with the same thing, PLEASE do yourself a favor and get help before it gets out of control, seriously you will save yourself SO MANY health problems.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(proudlady!): Not to mention that teenage girls aren't the only ones who are anorexic. And it goes way beyond insecurity. Could you be any more ignorant?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, Hitler had his reasons, does that make the holocaust OK?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The thing is; no, no he didn't. By saying that you're basically saying that you agree with Hitler's opinion that the Jews and other minority were somehow the cause of all of Germany's major problems in that era.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Right... Except that isn't even slightly what I said, "He had reasons" is not the same as "He had reasons that I totally support and agree with".

by Anonymous 13 years ago

By saying "He had reasons" you are acknowledging what he gave as his reasons for the holocaust. If anything you should have said "he claimed to have reasons". So yes it is if not entirely than slightly what you said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

how the fuck are you comparing the HOLOCAUST to alcholism or cutting yourself. the only person getting physically hurt is the person who's cutting themself's! this may EMOTIONALLY hurt their family and friends but by no means should it ever be related to the fuckn holocaust! what the hell's wrong with you?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow. Most of you sound incredibly immature and ignorant. Unbelievable. Fist, anorexia is NOT an insecure teenage girl disorder, that is absolutely ridiculous. It can affect men, older women, even young children. You sound so dumb; look it up, go on eating disorder support sites. My god, you sound absolutely idiotic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

lol, you used 7 different putdowns and only using one fact. Even though you are right, please support yourself with reasons, don't just insult the other guy like every politician in the world does.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm putting them down because what they're saying is ridiculous! Anorexia is more than just a disorder and my best friend is a recovering anorexic/bulimic and it breaks my heart that this beautiful girl suffers from this. She is 21 now and is doing all right but her support group has females from all ages, and men. It makes me soo bad when people misunderstand her.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Second, alcoholics, cutters, etc., do you know an addict or sonne like that personally? It doesn't sound like it. Alcoholism and drug are addiction are crazyy. The mind is scary, no matter how much a person realizes what they're doing is so bad for them, being clean and sober is one of the hardest things do be once one has had a lifestyle like that for so long. Now, with that said, I'd have to agree that I hate people who complain that they are fat when they continue to eat only fast food or claim sex addiction when they cheat because that's just annoying but until you yourself are faced with an addiction such as alcohol, you really shouldn't judge because it sounds like you do nott understand it. Go to a 12 step meeting, I go once to twice a week. And comparing murderers to alcoholics and obese people, seriously? Like, I understand what you are saying but you sound like someone who has no idea about addiction or other disorders.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They're not as bad as people make them out to be. Barring heroin and alcohol, addictions can be broken by dropping the habit and waiting a few days. The worst you get is less than a week of flu-like symptoms, then it's out of your system and you're no longer physically addicted. Mental addiction is tough, sure, but everything can be mentally addictive. I happen to be mentally addicted to quite a few things, along with a physical addiciton to caffeine. I managed to drop most of them at once and carry on. Things are difficult to do if you set limits on yourself. If addicts realized that they only have themselves to blame, and that there's nothing physically forcing them to do anything, the addiction can be broken. It's purely choice to keep a bad habit going, and if they don't care, neither do I.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm working on breaking an addiction. It's been a hundred fifty nine days and it's getting harder every day. You can't break an addiction in a few days. Get your facts straight.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The physical dependence of whatever you're giving up was gone over 150 days ago, assuming you quit cold turkey. If you're stepping yourself down, of course you're still addicted. Anything you still have is mental dependence, which can happen for anything. Anything. Shopping, video games, eating, etc. It's nothing special.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dependence is dependence, asshat. I never said I was anything special. The point WAS that it's nothing special. It takes a very long time to break an addiction. And you don't get over physical dependency in a day or two, dumbass. Do some research before you go running your mouth about things you clearly don't understand.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Did I say two days? No, I said about a week. How about you do some research? Nicotine dependency, heroin dependency, caffeine dependency, cocaine dependency, etc. all pass within about a week.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's not true at all. -______________-

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why don't you do some research? Physical withdrawal symptoms last only a few days on average, even for heroin. Let me guess, the only knowledge you have on drugs came from the media? You probably think that LSD, weed, shrooms, and cocaine are bad, or that alcohol and tobacco aren't worse than illicit drugs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I like how you're stereotyping me as an idiot just because I don't agree with you. I KNOW alcohol and tobacco are just as bad, if not worse, than illegal drugs. And my knowledge comes from experience, dumbass. If anyone's came from the media, I'd wager it was yours.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I like how you interpreted accusing you of being misinformed because you disagreed with fact as calling you an idiot for disagreeing with me. Physical dependence can only last as long as the drug remains in the body. That's a fact. Due to the relatively short half-lives of most drugs and the body's incredible cleansing system, physical withdrawal only lasts for a few days. That's also a fact. I get my information from hours upon hours of researching. I am extremely pro-drug, and plan to do them. Ignorance on the subject of addiction and the health effects of drugs is just not something I can afford to have.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dude, you're a fucking idiot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Care to provide some reasoning, or would you just rather be an ignorant jackass? Whatever, it doesn't matter, people will still agree with you by virtue of you disagreeing with me. Apparently, that's just the "in" thing to do around here. You people are fucking thick-headed, and won't listen to logic for anything. Go ahead and continue living in your bullshit world of empathy, where peoples' feelings are catered too. You obviously can't handle the stresses of the real world, where people actually control their destiny.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What the fuck are you talking about? I can't handle the real world because I think you're fucking retarded? Get off your high-horse, asshat.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You still haven't provided the slightest bit of reasoning for why I'm retarded. That last part wasn't directed at you, it was directed at people who are convinced that alcoholism or cutting can't be conquered through sheer will power. They can, people just can't accept it. If they accepted that, they'd feel weak and upset about not overcoming their problems. It's easier to convince themselves that it's simply a herculean task. Fact of the matter is, it's entirely possible to simply give up whatever vice you may have (except alcohol, you have to gradually step down), and there's really no reason to be sympathetic towards people who don't.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People do make their own desicions, and we can't control that. We do have to love them anyway though, even if we don't agree with what they're doing or why they're doing it. People have to stop blaming others, and find a solution for themselves, yes. But in the meantime, we have to love and care for them just as much as anyone else. Goodness knows they probably need more love anyway. Let's not judge, but rather encourage and love that person until they change or don't change.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

NO. You obviously have never fist has experienced or seen heroin withdrawl. Imagine the headache that caffeine withdraw gives you, times 100, in your entire body, from your core to your skin. You don't understand addiction nor the addicted. Seriously, go to a NA meeting and say that. It's a lot more difficult to stop than you're making it out to be. Also, sure, it's they're fault for picking it up in the first place but you have NO IDEA what it is like, whether you yourself have a few "addictions" or not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, but I've seen my uncle contract HIV and later die of AIDS due to a heroin addiction. I suppose that's such a pleasent alternative to a few days of sickness. If they really cared, they'd endure it for the sake of their health, money, lifestyle, family, etc. But they don't. Again, if they don't care, why should I? Seriously, alcohol is the worst possible addiction, as you can die if you quit cold turkey. If you're not an extremely heavy drinker, dropping your addiction really isn't a big process. Why would I go to a meeting and say that? Of course people will disagree with me, because they don't want to hurt their pride. People refuse to accept the fact that they can do whatever they set their minds to, because it makes them feel bad if they don't. Instead, they're happy living in a world where it's not their fault, and they don't feel as bad about not taking action.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I have 17 cuts on my left wrist right now. I've tried suicide 4 times. Wanna know why? People like you. People that think no one has a right to relieve any of their pain and that people like that should be shunned for it. I have a problem. I'll admit it. But its not like i'm flashing it around. I wear a jacket everywhere. The only person who knows anything is my mom and my girlfriend. But because of the 1 in 100 people who cut for attention, or drink for attention, or stop eating for attention, to the rest of the world-that's why i do it. Not because i feel pain. Because i want others to pay attention. BULL SHIT. You have no clue what goes on in the world.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I really don't care about your pathetic life. Just saying. You're just an emo kid statistic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

if i cared about your opinion i woulda said riproaring tell me what you think about my life. grow a pair and don't be anonymous. you're probably just mike hawk and making it look like youre not crazy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do you honestly think I'd go anonymous and start spewing unnecessary hatred towards you directly after stating that I don't harbor negative feelings towards people like you? Are you fucking stupid?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

First off, how do you manage to fail committing suicide 4 times? I never said people should be shunned for relieving their pain, I just said that they shouldn't get sympathy for having some sort of problem like that. Do you people even fucking read my comments before responding? It just seems like none of you can grasp a simple fucking understanding of what I'm fucking saying. Here, I'll put it in simpler terms for you. In your case, I don't dislike you for cutting or attempting suicide. I'm just not sympathetic towards you because you made your own life choices. I also won't make excuses for you if you won't change. It's your choice, and you're responsible for those choices. There's nothing forcing you to cut, and no reason great enough to force you to cut if you truly want to stop. Do you get it now?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There's nothing stopping you either. Maybe that little bit of sympathy will stop someone. If it doesn't i mean who cares. At least you tried.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Im gonna have to agree with you, because as a 'cutter in remission' lol i see how people look at me when i step outside in short sleeves, so i do get it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dude Mike, you are so right on "People refuse to accept the fact that they can do whatever they set their minds to, because it makes them feel bad if they don't. Instead, they're happy living in a world where it's not their fault, and they don't feel as bad about not taking action."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It seems to me like half of you havent even met a drug addict before in your life. yes people make the conscious choice do drugs, cut themselves or be anorexic but that's because they're life is so fucked up they'll use any means to make themselves feel better. these are all MENTAL DISORDERS people. I'll give you an example : a girl gets raped, they never find the guy who did it, and ever since then she's paranoid and afraid of even leaving her house, she feels its her fault so what does she do, she cuts herself to make herself feel better. now of course not everybody has had such a traumatic experience, but there are still lots of things in life that can fuck a person up to the point that theyre ready to do drugs. They're emotions may not be RATIONAL, because chances are theyre DEPRESSED. and of course theyre responsible for theyre own actions. But as you dont know what the fuck is going on in theyre lives why dont u try not to judge them go bone up on ur readin materials guys please

by Anonymous 13 years ago

okay so making yourself bleed makes you feel better? Slitting your nerves and causing bodily harm makes you feel better. This isn't a situation where u can fight fire with fire.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

when people cut they almost NEVER hit a nerve okay honey even people who are TRYING to commit suicide can rarely hit a nerve. and technically speaking yes it does make you feel better. it's a mental thing. Like smoking a cigeratte or perhaps smoking weed. It relaxes you for the moment. and im speaking from personal experience. when i was cutting it was like I was all tensed up and sad and when i cut myself, it was like i could breathe again. by no means did it solve any of my problems which is why i stopped, but like i said it helped for the moment.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It releases endorphines, which reduce pain. So, yes, it does make you feel better. But you don't hit your nerves, usually...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I can't believe how ignorant some people are, judging from some of these comments.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Preachy whiners make those of us with actual mental disorders look soft-skinned. Chill out and let the lemmings have their fun.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Cool story bro.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Crybaby. My eldest sister has cerebral palsy and my little sister has Down syndrome. I don't go anorexic and cutting myself because my parents devote every ounce of attention to them

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well be happy, because your stronger then most other people who just couldnt handle a situation like that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree, people shouldn't make fun of others because of that. They are immature, it is their loss. However, going back to what some other people said... You can control some emotional aspects. Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, yes, but that doesn't mean you can sit there and drown in crap without taking any blame. I cut once, have depressed for a while (in the past), and have extreme OCD. I managed to get off of depression, stopping cutting, and am still working on my OCD tendencies. I was painfully shy and learned to assess the situation and stay calmer. I did this all by myself. Not everyone is like this, but people who doubt themselves and don't do a thing often cause psychological problems by "tricking" themselves into thinking they can't do anything so they don't bother. There are certain situations where it is hard, but is certainly isn't impossible.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(14 going on 15): I kind of agree with you. But when your depressed barely anybody is gonna be thinking positive like that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Mainly because they feel that can't and immediately shut down that thought... Among other things though.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok, I kinda skipped half the comments on here, so I don't know if someone has already pointedx this out, but the reason people get addicted to cutting is because when you bleed, endorphins are released in your brain that give you a kind of high. When someone has depression/poor impulse control (I have both), whenever they feel anything bad, they feel the need to cut to get that high, almost exactly like someone would take drugs. Most people who cut don't realize this, but when you're addicted to cutting it's being addicted to the drugs your body makes for you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was sexually molested by my neighbor when I was four, and he still lives next door and I see him almost everyday. We lost our house because of the economy, my parents are always yelling at me and don't ever listen when I have a problem, I don't have any real friends I can trust with my feelings and my family is slowly shying away from me because of my special needs boyfriend, who doesn't understand me because of that wall between us caused by his need. So I became a cutter a while back and it increased in intensity when more of this shit went down. I felt alone and scared and lost and like I had no one to talk to, and cutting and starving myself made me feel strong and powerful and in control. So if that isn't enough to convince anyone that cutters/etc. are people with feelings too, and that unlike the "emo statistics" we actually have a reason behind our actions, then I fear nothing is.

by Anonymous 13 years ago