+300 James Potter didn't deserve Lily. He's kind of a douche. Amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah, Snape loved her more :(

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He still went with the Death Eaters. That's like him joining the Hitler Youth when his love interest was Jewish.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

wait didnt he do that because dumbledore told him to?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

He rejoined them when Voldemort came back because Dumbledore told him to, but he joined on his own initially when Voldemort was first gaining power.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But he did leave so that stands for something

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I know, I'm just saying that while you could argue that he became a good person after Lily died, he wasn't initially that great of a person.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Oh come off it...James is a wonderful man.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Snape is a sweetheart.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm 50/50 on this one...but Snape deserved her a little bit more.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But james grew up. And snape was a sleezy mofo even if he did love her

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Don't forget Snape was just as two-faced as James was when they were young. we don't see it as much because the only memories of snape's we've seen were from his point of view. It's obvious he was only nice like that around Lily but when he was with his friends he was probably just as big of a douche, calling muggle-borns mudbloods and stuff. sure James wasn't perfect but like th3don said he grew out of it. Snape did so too he just grew up a little late.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This is like battle to the death between devoted Harry Potter fans.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Indeed. I'm for Snape. Those of you thinking he's mean should think about the fact that he only hated Harry because of James. If he had been with Lily, the whole story would've been different (for better or worse)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He was mean to other students besides Harry. I forget which teacher said it, or if it was even a teacher at all, but they said "He did make himself unpopular", they were referring to the staff.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I feel I must respond to this in song: There are so many douchebags in the world. Yes, so many douchebags get the girls who deserve more than absolutely anything than any charm or potion could ever bring. But men like that, they have her on a string, and they don't care, For there will always be guys like Potter. To realize tears in your eyes because he got her. She'll never ever know how much you'd have brought her... If you'd only done something more for the one, back when you were young... SNAPE: So many assholes in this place. So many assholes in my face! Why can't they leave me alone-- To love princesses, maids, and queens? They wouldn't ever be in between... LUCIUS & SNAPE: We'd them nice and never be mean. And we would care... But there will always be guys like Potter. Who'll quench the flame like it's a game with drops of water He'll never think her perfect as you/I thought her... LUCIUS: ... But now you're alone, left to pout and moan, 'cause you were totally pwnd

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Win. Who's this by?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...youre username is from avpm, did you never see the sequel but liked the first one enough to make your amirite name from it??

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(moonshI oesPotter): ! Very Potter Musical. That song kinda makes me cry.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*It's from "A Very Potter Sequel"

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And - one time - I wanted to take your mum's boobies and go . . . "bbmmbbbmmmbbbbbmbm"

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's like the one thing I remember best from the sequel

by Anonymous 12 years ago

nah i luv james!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I take your love for him as seriously as your spelling of sed word.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well i like him better then sev

by Anonymous 13 years ago

James is waaaayy better. Snape is a greasy douche.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm afraid that I've been reading way too many LilyxJames fics... gonna have to change my vote :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

James. James's patronus was the counterpart to Lily's and James had enough sense to change to win Lily's love. Snape had to have her die to realize what was wrong. And James died for Lily.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

i mean its hard to say cause we all only know Snapes story about his love for Lilly and not James' side.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

James was literally Lily's counterpart. His animagus, a stag, is the male to Lily's (female) doe patronus. He loved her enough to fight for her even though she rejected him innumerable times. And, in the end, he died trying to save her and their child.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

woah Lily, I didnt even realize that!!!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

For the Patronus thing, there really isn't any way to tell that Lily's Patronus didn't change to a doe after she fell in love with him and found out about his Animagus form. I'm not trying to undermine your argument, Lily (ahh too many Lilys), I'm just pointing this out. I mean, it's happened before (well, technically later in the timeline of the books) with Tonks/Lupin.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't know. I hated James when he was in school, but seeing him afterward - with Lily and Harry - made me see how much he changed. But then there's Snape, who always had some evil in him, but wasn't much worse than James until he took Lily from him. Then, when Lily died, he changed too, and worked for Dumbledore and helped take down Voldemort from the inside. I just . . . I don't . . . UGH.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You know who was a douchebag? Dumbledore. He was the biggest douchebag in the book, even more so than Umbridge...at least Umbridge made it known she was a douchebag; Dumbledore liked to hide between kindness.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

RAUGH! SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!!!! I mean who the hell ignores Harry after he just witnessed his competitor die before him, get stabbed by Peter, the person who traded in his parents for his own life, and have his blood bring back the dark lord. Also, have to see his dead parents come out of Voldemort's wand and talk to him.... Dude he must have wanted to die right there, or wanted more of an explanation. Dumbledore was freaking ignoring him!?!?!?! WTF

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And he promised Snape that Lily would live if he become a double spy but he LIED! Plus he knew that Harry would have to die to kill Voldemort (Since Harry was the final horocrux) but he didn't bother saying anything. He might have been trying to do the right thing, but he went about it all wrong. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

in the sixth book, he was so irritatingly vague that I wanted to punch my wall....

by Anonymous 12 years ago

He didn't want Voldy to know what was going on. Remember, he was literally seeing Harry's thoughts?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Which would have been easily rectified if he had told Harry the reason why he wanted him to train with Snape so hard to stop Vold. from seeing his thoughts. I still think he was pretty douchey for a guy who was supposed to do all he could to keep a kid safe and alive.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Not really, because Harry was crap at it anyway, and it takes a lot of practice/time to master it so Voldy would have plenty of time to penetrate his thoughts.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

how was he supposed to know peter pettigrew was gonna fuck shit up? that wasn't dumbledores fault if everything went as plan and Sirius stayed Secret-Keeper this wouldn't have happened

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Peter Pettigrew wasn't a part of anything involving dumbledore, not really it was nothing he could control, and I didnt mention anything of that part so idk where you're coming from there. And In the final book, you see that Dumbledore knew Harry had to kill himself in order to kill Voldemort. You also found out that he used Snape to get on Voldy's good side. He used Snape's love for Lily to make him do whatever he wanted, and when Snape wanted to warn Lily, James, and Harry about Voldemort coming to their house Dumbledore wouldn't let Snape, he told Snape he would protect Lily from Voldy, but if Snape warned them, he would let Lily die. Well he let Lily die anyway so he really screwed the pooch on that one, he constantly used the memories of dead Lily to keep Snape in line and it was fucking douchey. I mean for a guy who keep up a good facade of being Harry's surrogate father, it really surprised me and upset me how much he really didn't care too much for Harry. He only used Harry to kill Voldemort.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I was referring to how you said " he promised Snape that Lily would live if he become a double spy but he LIED!" the reason lily died was because of peter pettigrew giving information to voldemort. thats what happened. and snape never tried to warn them about anything.. he just wanted dumbledore to protect them

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Voldemort and Lily should've hooked up as a big fuck you to everyone smirk

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's not about who deserved her, it's about who she loved and wanted to be with...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

UGH I hate when people say that. James was a douchebag?? What about Snape? He was a fucking death eater. He was one of the reasons that caused her death. He called her a mudblood when she was defending him. He was mean to kinds who didn't do anything to him before even getting to know them just cause he has a horrible life. He was willing to let a 1 year old die just as long as Lily stays alive. Don't get me wrong, I love Snape so much and he's a good person, and he loved Lily so damn much; I wish I'll find a guy that'll love me like how he loved Lily. But James is a better person. oh come on we all had that elementary/middleschool/highschool enemy that we always fought with or hated, and just cause James was mean to Snape doesn't mean he was a bad person. He also really loved Lily; he never did anything bad to her. He also loved her since they were kids. He fucking died for her as well!!!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think Severus Snape is the most complex and interesting character in the whole HP story. He made some cruel things, but one should think about how his childhood was (with his fighting parents) and than in school bullied by the Marauders including James Potter. Snape was never a threat to him, he just bullied him, so it's somehow his and his friend's fault Severus turned bad. So yeah, James imo is an idiot and a bully. The fact he died for his wife isn't anything I would emphasise because every sane husband should protect his family with his life. I pity Severus, because he made some really bad dicisions in his life and had to pay for them until he died.

by Anonymous 12 years ago