+49 People say religion isn't real because of the big bang or some other theory but what created those atoms that collided and what created the thing that created that and so on and so forth. God did, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What created god?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

thats for God to know and us to find out

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Here's my problem with religious people. They can defend any comment, because they can be as broad, and vague. I'm not saying I don't believe in god, I just think that if god was how you all say he is, he wouldn't be happy with the way believers portray him, and what they do to the people who don't.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

*as broad and vague as they want

by Anonymous 14 years ago

well neither of us have met God so we wouldnt know would we

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well if you haven't met him, how can you be sure he is even real?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

faith

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Who's to say my faith in science and the big bang theory isn't true then?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

no one id just rather be safe than sorry

by Anonymous 14 years ago

But what about the people who devote their whole lives to religion, and die. If god wasn't real, then they would have just wasted most of their life

by Anonymous 14 years ago

if believing in religion makes them happy then their life wasnt wasted

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That's not much of a reason to believe in God

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's kind of like saying "I don't like this person, but I'll be nice to them so they don't decide to shoot me when they go berserk". I don't think that's a good reason to believe in something...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Science is concrete, it's real, you don't need faith. It's not something you believe in, it happens whether you like it or not, like evolution.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

and it can't hurt to believe cuz if hes not real nothing happens but if he is real and i dont believe then i get screwed

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Gotta love living in fear

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i dont live in fear i live in love for God

by Anonymous 14 years ago

your justification for believing in him is that you're scared of the vague (unfounded, unproven) possibility of going to hell....

by Anonymous 14 years ago

no its not i see the miracles on earth and thats why i believe and well hell does kinda sound sucky

by Anonymous 14 years ago

"if he's not real nothing happens" Exactly. Nothing happens. The human race will go nowhere. Think of the middle ages, thats what happened for 1000 years. Immediately after the collapse of the Roman empire, technology was stagant.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well, what if the true religion is Islam or Judaism? You're going to hell anyways, then. In religion, there is no "safe side." People that are scared of death rely on religion to provide comfort. Well, if all the holy books are true, which every sane individual can recognizes is false, then you'll be going to hundreds of different forms of hell, with a broad range of punishments according to their respective holy books. I can respect your religion, but it's pretty clear you're religious through fear alone. That's just encouraging the inevitable violence that results from religious diversity. As an atheist, I admit I fear death. But not because I've ever once considered the possibility of some absurd punishment chamber such as the Christian version of hell.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

have you ever met brad pitt? or albert einstien? or hilter? or obama? if not then how do you know theyre real?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Because I've seen photographs and have seen them on tv.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

that could be faked or not actually them. You have no proof that they're actually real but you still believe theyre real which is like what all religous people think. for many religious people theyre raised that way and it would never cross most of their minds that its not true until theyre older and their minds are already made up

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That I understand, but then that argument works for anything. Maybe the bible was faked. Nobody has ever met the authors or seen pictures of them. There's no proof they exist. I understand how faith works, because every belief you have is just having faith in what you've decided is true. I don't like when people are just raised religiously. It gives them no opportunity to think about their life and decide what they think is true. It takes away their free will. I find it borderline inhumane. You can't deprive people of thinking for themselves. That's what they do in dictatorships. "You follow the rules and don't talk about things I don't like or you're in trouble" is now way to think as a child.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

i completely agree with you! i think you should let people choose their own religion or lack there of. but a lot of people think theyre doing the right thing by teaching their kids what they think is right

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You might have heard this before: "Everything that has a beginning has a cause". The universe; all time, space and matter must have had some kind of cause. That cause must have been Someone or Something that didn't have a cause (no beginning). God (the creator of time) did not have a beginning, and therefore He did not need a cause, He didn't need a creator.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I find it so hard to grasp ' no beginning.' Everything must of had a first day (in my mind atleast) but I don't think we'll ever know what was before God's first day.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yes, it's quite difficult to grasp since we humans are stuck in time. But time is something that has not always existed, it's a part of the universe (time, matter and space co-exist). And before time existed, couldn't there have been God who never had a beginning?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But you don't know that space or time had a beginning. They could have been here forever.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If time didn't have a beginning we would never get to this point of time.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well then if god never had a beginning, how could he get to this point in time? inb4becausehe'sgod

by Anonymous 12 years ago

He's still not bound by time, so he's always been in every point of time since the beginning of time.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What about before that? How long before he created time did god exist?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There was no time before time existed, so you can't say that he existed for a specific amount of time before time existed.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Then how can he have existed forever if that is an amount of time?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

He has not existed forever as in: "An infinite amount of time". That's impossible, because time must have had a beginning. However, He has existed forever as in: "Not bound by time". In other words: He is eternal.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Then why does the bible say God did the whole 'let there be light' etc shit?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

its has symbolic meaning

by Anonymous 14 years ago

symbolic for the big bang which was only discovered in 1964, which the people who wrote the bible would have had no knowledge of?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

God told them what to write they didnt write it out of their own knowledge

by Anonymous 14 years ago

okay, crazy.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i agree with i lovesoftball i have a doctorate in theology so i would know

by Anonymous 14 years ago

lol you do realize that you are just contradicting your own point right. If I told you that I had a doctorate in physics, and that god wasnt real because it was against the laws of physics, then how could you tell me otherwise?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

God created the laws of physics and how would you know if he does youve never met him

by Anonymous 14 years ago

uhh RUDE.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

So now you're opening up the entire Bible to interpretation, meaning passages in Leviticus about "lying with another man" shouldn't be taken literally. And before you say "only some parts are symbolic" which parts are these? Why are you allowed to pick and choose what is symbolism and what isn't?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

When I read all the comments I instantly got dumber. Trolling or not that was the dumbest conversation I've ever had the displeasure of reading

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"You can't prove there isn't a God." "You also can't prove there isn't a gnome on the darkside of the moon who shoots candy out of his boobs from inside a flower-pot while wearing a pink cowboyhat, but that's highly unlikely."

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I hate post that bring up debates like this. For Pete's sake, is it that hard not to shove beliefs down peoples throats? You're not doing anything but beinging annoying, BOTH sides. Okay... I'm done.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"Gaps, by default, are filled by God." Good quote right there. It means that whatever humans don't know has been chalked up to God for thousands and thousands of years. For instance, ancient Greeks though that epilepsy was the work of the Gods. Now we know the real scientific explanation for it. Epilepsy then was like the creation of the universe is today. We think it is divine because we don't know how it happened yet, and in a few thousand years, we will know. Those Greeks were just as sure of their faith as you are now.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There's a lot of Christians who believe in a "scientific God" (and I am one). A lot may find it sacrilegious and will tell me that science is only there for people to try and prove God wrong and that God is always stronger than science, but some of us prefer to look at it like this: God created science, so every scientific discovery isn't there to refute God, it's to confirm. So, in essence, I think that a lot of the things that are said in the bible are ways to explain the things that happened on earth like how the Greeks did with their deities. The big bang, then, and the time it took earth and life to form, are probably true, but there are probably elements of the bible that explain this that have their symbolism and reasons for being said. Bring on the downvotes for eccentric explanations...woo...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Am I the only one who's redirected to Youtube when I click to read the comments? Anyone else...?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I only get it for this post. I had to click the x thing for it to stop.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Same here!! Glad I'm not crazy.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

People don't say religion isn't real. They say god isn't real. There are plenty of ways to have a religion without a god.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Holy shit you're fucking stupid. i hope you get raped to death in a dark alley and nobody notices you gone or helps you

by Anonymous 11 years ago