+487 It's annoying when people say "Illegals are stealing jobs" Really? So people have applied for a job picking tomatoes at an exciting new farm, only to lose it to a Mexican? Amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not illegal immigrants' right to have those jobs. There is a legal U.S. citizen who got turned down because there is someone not even from this country who offers to do the job for less.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): Really? Have you heard the complaints from legal U.S citizens saying "darn. Wish I could've been a migrant farmer but those damn illegals beat me to it"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That doesn't mean people should go driving across the rio grande just to go shopping for farmhands.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): They don't. A lot of employers don't know that their employees are illegal.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do a background check.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): So you have actually heard of an American citizen who applied/want for a job picking veggies(since that's what most illiegals do)?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Guess what? THere are legal teenage citizens who need summer jobs and would gladly take the place of illegal immigrants.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): Oh that's complete bullshit. MOST teenagers here already put up a big fight about getting a job at a fast food restaurant (that it's beneath them, etc) find me ONE teenager who would spend the whole summer doing back-breaking, mind numbing farm picking and you'll get a cookie

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know a lot of teenagers that would do that sort of work.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's not my fault you have so many immature, pretentious teenage friends. They need to humble up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): my friends aren't in question, the people who swear they're being robbed of a job & sit on their ass accepting unemployment checks are. . .

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you and your friends sound pretty snooty regardless. Must be pretty hard to enjoy life with your neck being strained from your nose being so high in the air.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): Snooty my ass, I might be one of the few people here that actually KNOWS what it's like to live in a farm, to go through all that shit.. You really can't take a side on anything without knowing what you're talking about, and until you and any others who believe we're here stealing jobs/ruining the economy/etc. can prove otherwise you really REALLY shouldn't talk. Must be pretty hard to see with your head so far up your ass.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you really shouldn't make "ass"umptions. Get it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): The people who hire those damned illegals should be in jail then. Becuase they are taking advantage of another HUMAN BEING (Key word there) and that is what isn't right. Who the FUCK says that we who live here aren't illegals. If anything Native Americans should be kicking us the fuck out of here.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe if "those damned illegals" stayed in there own countries and worked on making them better, they wouldn't have to come to America to be treated poorly and paid below minimum wage.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): You are an idiot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): How about you take out your friggin sweat shops out of Asia, South America and Mexico. Oh wait, you won't, NA companies like cheap labor, so instead of bringing the jobs to Americans or Canadians, they outsource jobs for EXTREMELY cheap wages. That's like hiring illegal immigrants to work in farms, hard labor, etc. Sure you could give them to the Canadians and Americans who just seem to dislike illegal immigrants, but you don't want those jobs, but still you buy your Walmart items and your 'home grown' fruits and vegetables without giving it a second thought. Illegal immigrants are NOT stealing jobs, they are taking jobs YOU don't want.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You are talking about something completely different. Outsourcing is hiring people from there own countries. It is irrelevant whether we want the jobs or not. There are not enough qualified Americans to meet the demand. However, there are plenty of UNEMPLOYED LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS qualified to work blue collar jobs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): I bet your own of those people who expect the government to fix all our woes

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No bitch, I'm actually a Canadian citizen. Yes I am an immigrant, and so is everyone else who isn't Native. And no, I do not expect the government to do anything for me. For one thing, most immigrants do NOT go on welfare. In fact, you are not likely to meet an immigrant who is homeless, having serious financial troubles or facing eviction. Why? BECAUSE WE DO THINGS FOR OURSELVES. We work the jobs YOU don't like, no matter what it is. We've learned to suck in our pride to survive. Sure some people clean toilets for a living, but are they homeless? Are they jobless?And another thing, it's spelled 'one' not 'own.' I learned THAT because I work hard in school instead of wasting my life with drugs, alcohol and smoking which A LOT of people who were born and raised here do with theirs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This wasn't aimed towards you, self pretentious prick. I know what the life of an immigrant is like, I was raised as an immigrant by an immigrant. Don't preach to me like you're better than me when you know nothing about me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

if you intended to aim that comment at ME, then you are a hypocrite because you know NOTHING about MY life. I am a Palestinean-American. My parents came from the Middle East to become LEGAL citizens of America. Did they sneak into the country on a boat? Did they hide in a luggage carrier? Did they hop a border? No. They did things the right way. They learned the language and the government and proper way to work in this country, and I do realize I used too many 'and's and too few commas. I did so to drive my point. You don't have to be a white American to disagree with illegal immigration. You want into this country? You need to earn it the RIGHT way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And no, I am NOT one of those people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): @489638 (Chauncy Pickles): That's nice to know. Though my father was an illegal immigrant I'm not, and I don't agree with illegal immigration. My comment to you was only based on what I read in your comment. I can justify my comment, the person above me can't. I meant it at a joke. If you notice all I said was "I bet your one of those people who expects their government to fix all their problems" as opposed to "No bitch...We work the jobs YOU don't like... I learned THAT because I work hard in school instead of wasting my life with drugs, alcohol and smoking which A LOT of people who were born and raised here do with theirs" Just so this person knows, I'm taking four AP classes, doing sports, I've never done drugs or have ever been intoxicated before. As for my TYPO, you know what I meant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wanted to take AP english 3 last semester, but they left me in honors, and I wanted to take ap biology, but it conflicted with my schedule too much, so all I am taking as far as AP goes is English 4 and Calculus AB.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): wow that sucks. My schedule is perfect except that i didn't get soccer/floor hockey

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well I suck at sports, so that doesn't really pertain to me. sol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): Lol. Its okay everyone has their strengths

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i believe that the migrant workers are mostly cubans

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I completely agree with you on this. Maybe those of you who disagree should watch the documentary 30 days.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I saw a 5 minute clip of that. Its freaking horrible

by Anonymous 13 years ago

?... You mind telling me what you saw? O.O

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ok, I'm just trollin'. i did see a bit but I didnt pay attention to it. Pfft I don't care, I'm legal

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree but then again I don't. Times are really hard and there are a lot of unemployed people that are legal citizens..

by Anonymous 13 years ago

True. But this post is about people constantly claiming that illegals are stealing jobs(mainly farmhand) and like it's a really big deal. When really, how is it stealing when it is something you don't want. Most lost jobs are in the cities and that aside: Do you know of a large group of people who have lost their chance to work on a farm, because of Illegals.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is idiotic. YOU don't belong here if you are here ILLEGALLY. You don't deserve a job, a home, or anything if you come here illegally. If you want to come here, study, know what we have, learn about our country. We don't want people crapping on our economy because they don't even know the three branches of our government. It is sad enough that our OWN citizens don't know much about our government, let alone people who just came in. I understand things may be worse there, but find a way, if not, deal with it. And even though a lot of Americans DON'T work on farms, there are some. Not a lot, but some, enough to fuel our corns, fruits, vegetables, etc. It isn't about the race, it is about the legal and illegal aspects. Don't follow the law, deal with it or get out.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Like I said before, you don't give a second thought about who makes your clothes. The people who make them get payed wages that should be illegal. Your comment isn't fair since you only care about what is affecting YOU, but not WHO YOUR affecting. If you don't like illegal immigrants. Fine. But you should also consider that a lot of big name companies would not function without illegal immigrants and out sourced jobs. It's selfish to base your opinion on what affects just Americans since the people who make your clothes and grow your food are also people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That isn't it. Just because they make our clothes and a bunch of other sources doesn't mean they can SLIDE through our system within a snap of a finger. They can stay within their country and make neutralist and non-interfering imports but they don't have to jack with out economy. Honestly, your opinion is quite outrageous and something the federal government would never considering under reasonable circumstances.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm only gonna troll on your final comment; our government welcomes immigration during recessions. It fuels the economy. Inversely, while in a rising economy people dont give a shit and the government cracks down on immigration. Immigration is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD during good times. Ive noticed that a LOT of people didnt care about illegal immigration at all until the stock market crash

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's still selfish. Yes, I agree with your point that they shouldn't just come into a country without being registered. BUT, you're doing the same thing they are, except you're going into their countries and making them work terrible jobs instead of them coming into your country to work the same terrible jobs. Although the federal government would never consider what I just, it doesn't make your point anymore un- selfish. Considering what only affects you is selfish. If you REALLY don't like illegal immigrants, then feel free to grow your own food and make your own clothes, but until then, it's 'outrageous' to hate illegal immigrants considering what they do for everyday citizens.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I honestly don't hate them at all; I don't hate anyone, regardless of what they did. My point is, just because they are working and producing vital necessities doesn't make it anymore right to allow them to work here. However, I do see the advantage of having people working for our country. @sestrada16: I don't care WHO immigrates to this country, however, just like any citizen, they should be willing to benefit themselves while simultaneously befitting the country. Not crossing illegal or sitting on their asses.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

there is a word for "un-selfish". it is "selfless"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You say that like the only jobs illegals take are farm-related....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The fact is America would not be America without the immigrants that make up this country. People who come to this country now are no different from our ancestor that did the same many years ago. Another fact for you is that America wouldn't be able to function with out the work of immigrants. Is it right? Probably not. Is it the truth? Most definitely.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

but they should become American. They chose to come to this country, they should do What is required of them to become citizens.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You do know that it takes ages to get into the system?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

but still. It shouldn't matter how long it takes. If they want to be in the country they should want to be part of the country.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

they are Americans last timed I checked anywhere from Canada to Mexico was America making them Americans. Get your facts straight....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with codirenae @488412 (Anonymous): You need to get your facts re-evaluated. Ethnicity no longer refers to a general region. Americans come from the United States of America. Just because you live in a country that is part of North or South America, it doesn't mean you have the rights of a legal U.S. citizen. You want to live in such a great place? You either need to go through the long process of becoming a legal citizen or work to make your own country better. Don't mooch on what legal immigrants and legal citizens spent CENTURIES to make.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(Chauncy Pickles): thanks for agreeing with me(: I don't understand why so many people are standing up for illegal immigration. Or how they think everyone's ancestors were illegal. My great grandparents came over from Sweden and became citizens, learned English and how the country works. And they didn't allow their children to speak Swedish. My grandmother only knows a few Swedish words. They believed that since they came to America they needed to become a part of the country and they were happy and successful.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I hope you honestly aren't gonna say you didn't know I mean American citizens.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

just thought i would let you all know most of the people in canada couldnt give a fuck about immigrants. Did no one see the huge shipment of people to vancouver a month ago? We couldnt care less most of the time. And besides we are so used to different ethinticities that we dont tend to assume someones illegal. We assume theyre legal. Unlike americans

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Uhhmmm poor choice of wording in the first half of the comment xD But yeah, in Canada, no one points and says ''illegal immigrant''

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, more than half of Canada would rather have them deported back. Sadly.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Farming is def not the only jobs illegals are taking. What about road construction? My dad was partner in a company, he didn't know it but his partner was hiring illegal fuckin retards cuz they would work for dirt cheap. When he went on a job with some of these new guys that couldn't barely understand let alone speak english... Uh, you really want someone like that working on the roads you drive on? How about capenters. Or cements workers. Or welders. There's a shit load of jobs ILLEGALS ARE TAKING FROM CITIZENS. They are taking jobs. Don't be ignorant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@487109 (Anon): you don't need to know English to be smart. Don't be ignorant and actually realize life before you go on here saying crap thank you, sincerely, me a mexican born and raised in USA working father (contractor) and still proud mexiCANs Ps. Kiss my Mexican ass you white trash

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You take too much pride in being an asshole.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not every illegal person is Mexican...damn shows how ignorant "white" people are....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

White? You just contradicted yourself Sir. It was a general statement, they didn't actually mean everyone was Mexican and illegal. And you are doing the same by grouping a bunch of people together. :|

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@anonymous: It DOES matter if they can't speak english, how is a contractor going to explain to some dumb shit illegal what needs to be closed where the detours need to go where to dig the damn hole blah blah blah WHEN THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU! I know plenty about life, thanks, dumbass. I also didn't say shit about mexicans. You're the ignorant fuck. P.s., I'm faaaaar from white trash hun:)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

my dad too is a contractor doesn't know much English but still get the work done. Thats why its called hiring Hispanic people, people who are actually smart unlike you. Many Mexicans have their OWN co. they don't have to know English,to get stuff done.i bet some Mexican built the house you're in but you don't think about that twice now do you??? I'm sure you're family came here ILLEGALLY years back so think about that you prick. okay not white trash white garbage!!! :) and yes you're garbage thanks for reading honey love ya smooches

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@489007 (anon): neither of you are portraying your points very well.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

lol again, I didn't say shit about mexicans. But you're a dumbass if you think a contractor is going to hire a company that he couldn't communicate with the employees again. And no, my house wasn't built my mexicans (who, AGAIN I NEVER said shit against them) I grew up lucky, lots of money in my fam. When it came to our house, we interviewed and chose every company that did any work on it. Do you know how many lawsuits are filed every month because of people hiring illegals who barely understand english and build faulty shit? Or cause car accidents and uh, don't have licenses since they're illegal? And a fuckin shitload of other things. I'm definitly not garbage. I wasn't insulting anyone in my original comment. I was stating true facts. All you're doing is getting ass hurt and putting words in my mouth trying to act like I insulted you and your family. I didn't. You have no idea how my ancestors came here, neither do I, but that still has nothing to do with this post. You say I'm n...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

nice way 2 cuss after every word 2 thumbs up for you

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol, bitch.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm an adult, I can cuss all I want :) 4 thumbs for your lame ass come back. Put em in your ass and have some fun. Insulting enough? Lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Where I live, I've been in grocery stores, where I can honestly say I've solely seen mexican workers, places that wouldn't accept my 20 year old brother, probably because he checks "white" on the application.

by Anonymous 13 years ago