+91 Conservatives don't want gays to be able to adopt any children. Liberals want them to be able to adopt any children. A good bipartisan agreement would be that they can adopt children who are old enough to consent to it, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do you mean legally old enough to consent? Wouldn't that make them like 18 or something, and by that time it would be pointless...? What kind of age do you mean?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i'm not sure what age. definitley younger than 18. somewhere around 10 or 12? idk. it would be debated

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a conservative and I think gay people should be able to adopt children.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"In an argument between two sides the answer doesn't always lie in the middle, sometimes one side is just wrong." Someone famous said something like that, I forget who.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a conservative, and I don't think there's anything wrong with gays adopting children. Hell, there's so many kids in the foster system today that NEED loving homes, and I'd rather a child be adopted by a loving gay couple than by anyone else who doesn't love them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Living in horrid conditions with non loving foster home employees. Ooooorrrr. A loving FAMILY that just happens to be two men or two women. Hmmmm. Such a tough choice! My four year old could easily make that decision.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There's a difference between normal conservatives and people who are complete assholes. The bipartisan agreement would be to let gays adopt kids period, because anyone who thinks they shouldn't are just completley wrong.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

youre ignorant. that wouldnt be bipartisan at all

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It would be bipartisan because liberals and non-extremeist conservatives would agree to it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'd like to see these coservatives of yours

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's true that moderate conservatives are getting rarer and rarer, but there are still some out there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh? So only radical conservatives want to restrict gays adopting? You are oh so ignorant....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You should probably stop calling me ignorant since I likely know much more about politics than you do. And yes, not allowing gays to adopt is a far right view, regardless of how popular it may or may not be. If the idea of a government controlled economy became popular, it would still be an extremely liberal view.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"I likely know much more about politics than you do" doubtful

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Nice ignoring the bulk of the comment and focusing on that unimportant point. Maybe you really would make a better politician then me seeing how you're so good at dodging the point I was trying to make instead of refuting it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

okay then. here: it is not a far right view. conservatives like to stick to Biblical principles. seeing as how homosexuality is condemned in the Bible, I think its reasonable to assume that is a typical conservative view

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Whether or not homosexuality is condemned in the Bible is up for debate. The passage often cited is about how one shouldn't "lie with a man as one does with a woman", but that is somewhat vague and you have to keep in mind that those words have been translated and twisted many times in the last 2,000 years. I've never seen a Biblical quote that simply says that it is a sin. But regardless of that, I'm just going to repeat what I said above. It doesn't matter whether or not it is a "typical conservative view" . An idea's popularity doesn't determine how radical it is. Communism is still a far left view, and that wouldn't change even if it became popular with liberals.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

then what is a moderate conservative view on this issue?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

there are many places in the Bible that CLEARLY condemn Homosexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm also a conservative and think gays should be able to adopt.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think the whole "gay rights" argument is ridiculous. People are people are people. WHYY should they be treated differently then anyone else?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just because someone claims to be conservative/liberal, doesn't mean they have ALL of the same views one is "supposed" to have. I know pro-life liberals, and I know pro-gay rights conservatives [myself being one of then] And they should be allowed to adopt children regardless of sexual orientation. A lot of children in foster care would be able to get loving homes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Plus, children are very open to everything. So they wouldn't be like 'omgzzz two dads that's gross and weirddd!!!!' No. They would accept a loving home and family. And believe it or not, being gay isn't such a 'horrible' thing anymore. Most people (even if they're against gay marriage) accept people being gay. Blah blah blah.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

thats fine, but let them choose. if you're pro choice, then give the child a choice

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You had to know this would stir up a hornet's nest. Also, gay IS wrong. Look at nature. Have you ever seen a gay monkey or a gay koala bear? I didn't think so.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Scientists have found gay animals in nature. Next time do some research before posting false arguments.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Show the proof before you start hating on random people

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2=news&sc3&id=92139

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Correction: Discrimination and hating on groups of people is wrong. Being gay isn't.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@pantherfanatic: do they have the choice to choose if they go with a straight couple? No.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

not the same thing. the debate isnt about straight couples. no religion condemns heterosexuality. no kids are gonna be bullied because his parents are straight.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lol kids with straight parents get bullied all the time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

duh, but not because his parents are straight

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Kids will be kids. They'll tease others for anything. 'Ew you're wearing greeeeen?!!!' Seriously, this is such a tough choice. Live in a disgusting abusive unloving place and get teased because of...everything. or. Have a loving family that buys me nice clothes and school supplies, even shoes! Feeds me bathes me. Gives me my own room and bed with more than a sheet. And maybe get teased about my loving parents. Hmm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But you don't have the right to make that decision for that child. Maybe the child is a Christian, and doesn't approve of a homosexual marriage? Then he/she should have the ability to make the decision for him/herself.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's not a very good arguement, foster homes don't practice religion. So unless a child was given up for adoption when they were old enough to remember that kinda stuff, that wouldn't be an issue. A kid that didn't have religios parents in the first place won't have religios views until they are a lot older and form them themselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I am almost certain that foster homes could provide children with a Bible

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...Why would they be that cruel? :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Most def, they can provide a bible. But they can't teach it. And they can't take an entire home to church. And they don't have staff that will individually take a child to church. And like I said, if a kid isn't brought up with parents who are religious they likely won't be anyways

by Anonymous 13 years ago

its still not your choice to make

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You've heard of the reply button, right? Click it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said it was my choice? Lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yes you did, stupid. you're not allowing the child a choice. the poor kid is going to be forced to live with 2 gay parents, and you won't give him a choice. you're probably "pro-choice" (pro abortion), but you won't give this kid a choice? ridiculous. liberals only want a choice for those who can vote. but unborn babies, foster children, etc...... we don't need those votes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

pro-choice is not equal to pro abortion. You would have to search far and wide to find someone is pro abortion. Pro-choice means the people can choose what they want. I am pro-choice, but I do not support abortion. However, I do believe it is a personal choice and that the government should not interfere by making a law against it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

haha. that's a different discussion for a different post :p

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The Bible says from the very beginning what "couples" are supposed to be! God created a WOMAN for ADAM!! God knew that THEY would populate the world because they could! God also asked Noah to place each kind of animal "one male and one female".... God's ideal union is between one man and one woman. If He meant for a man to be with a man and a woman with a woman then He would have made a way for them to NATURALLY have children!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Marraige is one thing, but I'm not sure how adopting children would hurt. It's no more dangerous than being adopted by idiots or ignoramouses.

by Anonymous 13 years ago