No, we're not homophobic, we just don't think being gay is right. There is a difference. Amirite?

now, what would that difference be?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can be best friends with a girl, but dislike their boyfriend, or vice versa, right? It's the same with gay people. You can love the person and be best friends with them, despite disagreeing what they are doing with themselves. There's no difference between those scenarios.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"There's no difference between those scenarios". Really? Because one can choose their significant other, but not their sexual orientation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you gay? Because unless you are, how would you know that it is for sure not a choice? Who knows, maybe it is, maybe it isn't? Maybe depends on the person? But unless you're gay, you can't really say that. Oh, and even if gay people don't pick to be gay, they still pick their partner-and can alwasys change.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You don't need to be gay to know that it's not a choice. I never chose to be straight, and yet I am. I have never heard nor have I ever heard of a gay person who said that they had the choice. There's that along with the commonsense part about why anyone would choose to be a part of the only minority that is still legally discriminated against. You're stance is very confusing by the way. You say that you're not homophobic, but that you don't think that being gay is right and implied that it's a choice. Then you said that it might not be a choice, but that gay people should change. I don't get it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said they SHOULD change, I said they CAN change partners. Oh, and I'm not afraid of gay people-which is what homophobic means. I just don't agree with their lifestyles. There's a lot of straight people's lifestyles I also don't agree with.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

FYI the suffix Phobos can mean both fear and dislike. The way homophobic is used today means an irrational dislike or hatred of gay people. And the whole thing about "disagreeing" with gay people is what doesn't make sense. You can't disagree with them about something that they don't have control over. That's like "disagreeing" with an Arab because you think that being Arab is wrong. It just doesn't make sense.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i know gay people. i have a relative in my family who's gay because of awful things one of their parents did to them as a child. I know that yes, there are definitely some scenarios where people can't help it, I just have a hard time believing that it's like that all the time. I do not hate gay people, or dislike them, I don't wish death on them. Just because I disagree with some of them on the life they're living, it doesn't mean I hate them, am afraid of them, or even dislike them. So I'd appreciate if you would stop making uneducated assumptions about me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not making uneducated assumptions about you, I'm reading the things that you've written about yourself. I'm just wondering why I'm just wondering why you don't take the gay community at it's word that it's not a choice. Who else would know but them? And why did I miss out on this opportunity? Why would anyone ever choose to be gay? I'm not looking for a debate, the way you phrased your previous comments just seemed strange.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Believing a gay that it's not a choice is equivalent to believing that (if you're a guy) a girl's life is harder than yours. You may think so, you may not, but there's absolutely no way to know for sure. It is not unheard of that people will experience one thing and completely twist it to make them seem less like a dunce. I'm not saying that gay people are dunces, but who says they are always truthful?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

homophobes are scared. not thinking gay is ok = ignorant retard.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The second part is true, but a phobia is a strong fear or dislike.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, kinda like, I'm not racist, I just don't like foreign people?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just because you don't agree with being gay doesn't mean that you don't like gay people. I don't think it's right to be gay. I have gay friends, and I don't have a problem with them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Tell me, what's wrong with it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's against my religion to be gay. If you're gay, that's fine with me, and I don't think that you should have any less rights than I have. I don't agree with it, but that is really up to you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Alright. I'll accept that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yeah, that's true

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or maybe I'm not racist, it's just that all the Mexicans at my school are all but gangsters. They can do better, most of them speak English as fluently as us

by Anonymous 13 years ago

lol ok

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In all honesty (I don't actually care how many negative votes I get) I don't necessarily think being gay is right, but that doesn't mean I'm a homophobe, nor does it mean that I don't think gay people should have rights. There's no right or wrong answer to the matter, and I'm not going to try to suppress gay people's rights, even if I don't agree with what they do. They have every right to be who they are and I'm not going to protest their being alive or wish they would all die or whatever. So yes, there is a difference because homophobes would do that stuff.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Racism is not comparable to homophobia. Homophobia is a phobia. I think that by "racism", you meant xenophobia, but you guys were to stupid too think of it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But smart enough to know that 'too' has two Os in it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I like how you attack my spelling because you can't attack the validity of my argument.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I attacked your spelling because I was questioning the validity of calling other people stupid when you don't understand how grammar works.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't understand how grammar works because I made a minor typo on one word? You're right, I'm completely illiterate.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Glad we're in agreement :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually,you mixed up your uses of the words. The first one should've too and the second one should've been to.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know, but I can't edit it now. :(

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Phobia- strong fear OR DISLIKE.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not xenophobic, I just don't think being foreign is right,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The number of bigots on the internet amazes me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There's a difference between bigotry and civilized debate. Not being afraid to stand up for what you believe in, even though it's contrary to what is popularized nowadays does not make you a bigot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm aware on the difference, I'm simply saying that there are many people on the internet that won't allow for any other beliefs.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's a sad truth

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Such as yourself, by looking at an opinion and calling it bigotry?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No. Look at some of my above comments. When told that being homosexual was against their religion, I relented. I'm talking about some people that won't accept that not everyone is a Christian and won't allow for anything else.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And you are not accepting that there ARE Christians and they aren't going to believe what you believe. You're making this a double standard. You telling a Christian their view is wrong is the same as a Christian telling you your view is wrong

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never did. I simply disagreed with them. Read the post, it never says that the poster is Christian.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, I am.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And I accept that being gay is against your religion. I just don't think that means you should dislike homosexuals because of that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't. We are not supposed to hate people. We are supposed to help them and keep them from doing whatever it is that is wrong (keywords here) ACCORDING TO MY RELIGION.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know that. I was referring to Christians in general when I said that you shouldn't dislike gays. (Don't get me wrong; I know many Christians don't dislike gays. But many do.)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why did people thumbs this down?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

'Cause it's not true?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Cause it's not true in their opinion

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, homophobic means afraid or having a strong dislike of homosexuals. So... same thing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

having a dislike of homosexuals and disagreeing what they do are two ENTIRELY seperate things. My best friend is gay, and he knows that I don't think it's right, but it doesn't stop us from being friends. I have friends who smoke pot, shoplift, etc, and just cause I don't agree with those things, doesn't mean I dislike them as people, or am scared of them in any way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with you. I'm not afraid of them & I don't hate them. I just don't think being gay is right.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not necessarily disliking the homosexual, but the homosexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

please, you know perfectly well it means disliking all gay people. Xenophobia/Racism is hating people of different races, not the specific races. It's hating people for the race that they are. I don't hate gay people for being gay.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm pretty sure it means disliking homosexuality, too. -___- And what does xenophobia have to do with anything...?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Which is basically what I meant in this post.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What...?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

being afraid of something and not agreeing with it are two different things

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Homophobia isn't JUST being afraid of gays.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

phobia=fear

by Anonymous 13 years ago

or dislike...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay. If you go by the denotation of "homophobe/homophobia" it means that you have a fear of those who like the same sex as themselves. If you go by the connotation that people have given it these days it means that you are against gay people in some way. Even just thinking it is wrong, by the connotation of the word, means that you are a homophobe. There is so much argument about the word homophobe it is dumb. People generally talk about it's connotation, so use it that way. If said "I hate my life." would you all immediatly think that I truly hated my life? No. It's something we generally say nowadays when something bad happened etc. That is the CONNOTATION of that phrase. Not it's literal meaning.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I highly dislike figurative language because it can be taken both literally and figuratively (lest it be so ridiculous that it can't mean anything else, i.e. idioms.)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Phobia; fear or strong dislike.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you for reading my comment.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My moms zenophobic and maybe homophobic. I wanted to go on a cruise to dubai and she said it wasnt in her intrest. And a gay parade came on the news and shr changed the channel. I dont like that about her.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

why the hell did u say we?? now ANYONE who agrees with this must be like that. i agree that there is a difference, but since i dont give if people are gay or not, itll look like i think like this.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sure there's a difference, but it doesn't mean you're not a complete BASTARD if you think this way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Rephrased post above- "You're a moron for thinking differently."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hmm... I love that the op didn't have the courage to have their name on the post but then they said that they dont care what we think. Also, it's not a choice. You can't help who you're attracted to. I really hope you have a son or daughter who is gay, lesbian or bisexual. Maybe you'd learn tolerance for others.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Firstly: I like how you didn't even have the guts to post this with your actual account name. Nice. Secondly: I don't think it's "right", in a way. I don't think it's natural, because, well, if all humans were gay, we'd die out pretty dang fast. But I still accept them because it's who they are. So stop hating on them for something that they can't control.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I hate the idea, not the people. Oh yeah, I'm OP, by the way. But is it wrong to not like getting flamed on my wall?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well-said, bro. Right on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We're the only life form on earth that shuns gays. Whoever doesn't see an issue with this has got to be mildly retarded.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We're the only lifeform on earth that IS gay and has the ability to shun. So yeah, you're correct by process of elimination.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

? Last time I checked there were hundreds of animal species that have been shown to sometimes have homosexual behavior. I am quite sure that at least one of those species lives in a pack, and packs of animals have the ability to exclude/ostracize/shun another animal, so no, we are not the only life-form that is gay and has the ability to shun.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Usually those 'hundreds' of animals end up being a few cats and dogs that were neutered/spayed, which messes with their natural hormonal balance. I think it is only a few species of monkeys that end up naturally being gay.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx This leads to a site where it says that apparently 1,500 different animal species have exhibited homosexual behavior. Guess I was wrong when I said "hundreds".

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I like how NiceBoulder didn't reply to that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yep

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't have the time to go through all the comments here, so if this has already been said, oh well. I just want to say that disagreeing with homosexuality is so much different than disagreeing with who someone dates specifically or their wardrobe choices. This is saying, yeah I'll only accept some of you. But I'll never accept all of you. That whole "Accept the sinner, not the sin" stuff is crap. To accept the "sinner", you HAVE to accept the "sin". Otherwise, you aren't truly accepting them as a whole person. It's hard to explain, I know. :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Accept the sin, don't embrace it. Don't feed it. Don't help it coexist with humanity. Know that we do sin and can't help it, every last one of us.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not religious, but I understand that everyone "sins", yes. No one is perfect. But it must hurt knowing a big part of your life is viewed as wrong in so many people's eyes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Gay acceptance is higher than ever. And for the record, when did other people's opinions bother you?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Higher than ever? Not even close

by Anonymous 11 years ago

My god. I know this comment is going to be voted down, so I'm going anonymous so I don't get crap on my profile, but are you guys IDIOTS? First of all, being gay is NOT a choice (to the guy up there who was saying it was). Can anyone tell me when exactly they chose to be straight? Did you just think one day, "Hmm, I think I'll like the opposite gender instead of my own." No, you didn't. Do you completely choose who you like? No.You don't just randomly think, "Hmm, that person seems like a good person, I think I'll be attracted to them." Second, to the people who think being gay is wrong (and I'm assuming it's because of your region. I know that doesn't mean everyone who is religious thinks homosexuality is wrong. I KNOW.): If it's so wrong, how come your god made them that way? He obviously wanted them here, or he wouldn't have created them. Maybe the homosexuals are a test to see who is willing to accept those who are different. But either way, you shouldn't tell someone ...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... something they can't control is wrong. So stop being such an ass.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If it works that way, I can't control what I dislike, and I dislkie the idea of being gay (Note not gays themselves).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok, sorry, let me explain this a little better. You can't help who you are attracted to. Liking something is a little different.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Perhaps this is so and perhaps it isn't.We may never know.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, there is a major difference between simply liking/disliking people and your sexual orientation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Sigh* You can warm up to people and things and try to at least like their company. You can't control who you are physically attracted to.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

homophobia = not liking gays or the idea of homosexuality. "i <3 my gay friend even though i dont like the fact that hes gay" Still homophobia. "I believe gays have every right to be gay even though I don't agree with it because of my religion" Still homophobia (albeit valid) homophobia

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I feel bad for you OP, because it's people like you that lead hundreds of gay people to killing themselves for not feeling accepted.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If gay people kill themselves just because someone doesn't believe in what they do, then yes, maybe there's something wrong with them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I state the difference between two words. This, apparently, kills hundreds of people. Yeah, there probably is something wrong with them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'M A BISEXUAL AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE BEING STUPID

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm straight, but, fuck your opinions, just because YOU think its wrong doesn't mean you should try to hold other humans back.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

not believing something is right and holding someone back are two different things. Not completely dissimilar, sometimes synonymous, but not for all cases.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wow. If it's as easy as saying "Your opinion doesn't matter" Hitler would rule the earth by now. And am I holding anyone back simply by stating a common mistake between two words? You must have insecurity issues if this is the case.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christians believe that being gay is wrong. We also believe that it is wrong to judge others. Can people please live with that and not judge us for what we believe in, and we'll not judge you for being gay? Can we all live with that?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If gays actually had the courage to be who they are, they wouldn't go around killing themselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe they once had the courage. But if you lived life being tormented and being told you should burn in hell day after day, it could just possibly affect you. Just sayin'.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(biondello):"Once had the courage" gay people always had a high suicide rate, and they're being accepted now more than ever before, so they should just stop whining and accept the fact that their being gay will always make some people uncomfortable. I can't make everyone like me. They can't make everyone like them. Committing suicide is an act of cowardice, no matter what the circumstances. Unless you are doing it to save someone else. They're just doing it for selfish reasons.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't think it has to do with everyone liking them. Seriously, do you realize they get shit thrown in their faces everyday? Tell me, do you get told you don't deserve to live and that you will burn in hell for existing? No, didn't think so. No matter how accepting most people are these days, there are still those people that are willing to do anything to bring them down. The kids that kill themselves don't do it just because some people don't like the idea of homosexuality. They kill themselves because after you get told the same brutal and horrible things every day, you start to believe it. I sure as hell wouldn't be able to handle it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think that's the distinction the OP is trying to make. There are people who disagree with homosexuality, and there are people who actually hate gays, and those are the people to blame for gay people killing themselves.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh yeah, I understand that. I was just singling out that specific post up there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you for reading this through and not just seeing "I hate gays!"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Acceptance is higher than ever before? Nope

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Nah, you're not homophobic, you're just an ignorant asshole.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Rephrased- "I only read the words saying the OP dislike the idea of being gay, so I'll call you an asshole."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...No.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Don't waste my time and energy by posting nearly worthless comments, such as those lacking any form of argument (assuming, as implicated, you are arguing).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Meow

by Anonymous 13 years ago