+286 im an atheist, but im not close minded, ill be religious in two seconds if you had proof, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you want absolute proof, you'll never find it. But if you'll settle for proof beyond reasonable doubt then just look around. Do you have any idea how incredibly complex DNA and the formation of proteins is?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i disagree, an "all powerful" god could provide proof...and yes DNA is amazing, but so is an all powerful all knowing never ending god like being. It all depends on which you think is more far fetched...how complex people are or something being able to create it...in my opinion, i think how complex everything is , is the reason people made up gods

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If there's real proof, everyone will believe in Him. He doesn't want his followers to feel forced into loving Him. The proof he gave was Jesus and the Bible. It's really stupid to say that he should just come out on Earth and tell everyone that he was God and make them believe it, he wants people to believe in Him because of His teachings and love, NOT because they've seen Him before.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the bible written by MEN? anybody here can write a book and say it's what God told them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But you're being close-minded. There is evidence that Noah's Ark and other stuff like that the bible happened that isn't from the bible.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... evidence of Noah's ark? Are you HIGH?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(12 Year Old): Sorry, I worded that wrong. There is evidence that a flood happened during the time that Noah's Ark was said to have happened.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

theres one problem...without proof, some one could choose the wrong religion without knowing..they wouldn't be able to find the right religion if they wanted to...a god wouldn't leave it to chance

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God wants people to be able to choose their own religion. He gives us free will and the choice to sin so that we can make the right choice. If a person really wanted to find the right religion they would probably try Christianity, it's kind of popular. Besides, God speaks to people on Earth through the Holy Spirit. He lets us know that He IS real, especially to people who are struggled with their faith. Isn't that proof enough?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The whole point is having a little faith. People always want more proof. Is God supposed to appear every morning in a stereotypical ghost-like form and do magic tricks? Look around at the beauty of nature! There's proof in the intangibles- love, joy, happiness, sadness. Heck, scientists have been trying to fully explain orgasms for ages and they're still baffled, not to mention the process of procreation itself.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

faith is believing what you want to believe. i hardly consider beauty of nature proof, any number of things could explain that. science just didn't figure it out yet. you may be able to think of things science isn't able to explain yet, but at one point lightning would be an example of god. science is the answer to everything

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree completely. Science has answers, "God" has nothing but a massive bunch of brainwashed followers who force you to believe in something that has no scientific evidence.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Have you ever taken a science class? In my biology lecture last year orgasms and procreation were described in full detail. It's really not hard to comprehend. I'm curious as to why you would think science cant explain it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Took AP Bio and learned about evolution half the semester, got a 5 on the exam, A in the class. I'm informed it's just, ok cells divide and all that good stuff, but where is the life/soul coming from? I mention orgasms because I read something interesting in this article about female orgasms. Since they aren't required for reproduction like the male orgasm, scientists are trying to find an evolutionary purpose for them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm a biology major in college. The purposes are so women enjoy sex so they'll have sex and reproduce. If women didn't have orgasms they are less likely to have sex and less likely to reproduce. Also, the idea of a "soul" is just speculating. A perceived soul is nothing more than a personality which is learned throughout life by a persons life experiences.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In modern times women are more equal to men so it does serve as an incentive, but many women having sex for pleasure are the ones using methods of birth control not to get pregnant. Historically, societies were almost all male dominated. The woman's role in life was to get married and raise children whether or not she liked having orgasms. This is why it throws off scientists from an evolutionary standpoint. Plus, all animals have the incentive to reproduce and carry on their species but almost none do this because they desire pleasure or even get pleasure out of it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'd say that orgasms would make perfect sense evolutionarily. I know that pigs and dolphins both get them, I don't know about other animals, but I think that would make a little bit more sense than most animals that ever existed just knowing somehow what they had to do to reproduce. (Though I could be wrong) Also, I thought I read somewhere that something like 80% of females (humans, anyway :P) don't get orgasms from normal sex. So the male dominance and women being used solely for kids thing could come into it there...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In the last maybe 3000 years man has been the dominant sex but further back not necessarily. Nothig you say is proof based.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What you call a "soul" is consciousness, or the ability to think/learn. If nothing had a "soul" (at this point I'm assuming a soul would mean compassion and all that), then you wouldn't care or notice if those around you were dying, and eventually your entire species would be wiped out... I'm sure it's way more complicated, but this is all I really know.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I most definitely would not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Look around you at the sun set, ocean and never ending space. Study your body like the eye and ear. There is your proof. Nothing else but a God could have made those.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Then explain natural disasters, diseases, disfigured babies, poverty, war, evil, corruption, rapist, murderers, genocides, racism, etc. This proves to me there is no god or if there is he doesn't give a crap about us and is thus not worthy to be worshiped. And don't give me that 'it's all a test' crap, because that only further proves how sick and twisted your god is.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

how are you sure that god made those? Science can do a lotttt.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm quite sure I read that the possibility of a planet just like earth existing are 1 in a billion, possibly higher. Scientists (who can see these things, with telescopes) currently estimate that there are about 200 billion planets in the universe. That means that there are about 200 planets similar to earth, so we're not really that special. If you say that the universe didn't create itself, something had to create it, then it would probably be reasonable to assume that everything else follows that logic, in which case if there was a God, who or what created Him? In my opinion, no theory that anyone comes up with could really make plausible sense. All we can really know is that we're here now, so we might as well enjoy it and stop complaining. :P However, I'd be more likely to agree with science than religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm religious, but i'm not close minded, i'll be an atheist in two seconds if you had proof :-)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't work like that. Atheists don't have to prove shit because it's entirely plausable that there is no god. That's like a police officer shooting someone because there was no proof they didn't have a gun. You have to prove that there is one, not that there isn't.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's the whole debate between atheists and religious people - what's plausible, what's obvious, where the burden of proof lies... If we stick to your law enforcement analogy: "If I I see a dead body with a bullet in it, I look for a murderer. If I see beautiful and complex things around me, I look for God." And if I find a dead body in your apartment, I only have to prove your guilt beyond all REASONABLE doubt; no jury in the world will acquit you if you argue that corpses sometimes tend to appear out of nowhere :-)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Technically though, if you found a dead body in someone's apartment, it's equally likely that someone could have planted it there, or someone could have broke in and killed themselves or someone else, there's loads of possibilites! It's just that the thing that most people would think of first, is that the person whose apartment it is killed the person, but just 'cause it's the first thing you think of and maybe the most obvious solution, doesn't mean it's true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

things aren't true until proven false...so are you against "innocent until proven guilty"?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its impossible to prove the negative. Lets say I tell my friends I went to see the movies today. If my other friend tells "No, i dont think you went to the movies today" so I say "prove it" how could he/she? you can forsure prove that i went. think about it. there is no proof god does/doesnt exist, but proof that god did would help.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

religion=faith

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Faith means not wanting to know what is true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

faith is not knowing what "the truth" is and having a reason to believe

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If your atheist, your not open to believing in a higher power. I think you mean that you're agnostic?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A common misconception of both atheism in itself and the relationship between atheism and agnosticism. I think this video explains it; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIKeC9k2-Jg

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Research! There acutally was a guy named Jesus born in 1 A.D.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Of course Jesus was real. It's a historical fact. However, was he REALLY the son of God? Did he REALLY pop out the vagina of a virgin? Hmmm.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ahhhhh I get to use my favorite quote! "If it were proven that there is no God there would be no religion. ...But also if it were proven that there is a God, there would be no religion." -Ursula K. Le Guin I do follow a religion, not a mainstream one, but I believe that any Supreme Being(s) would observe us the way one observes an ant farm. You know what they're doing, generally, and you may see a couple that you pay extra attention to, but you don't really know what each one is doing all the time.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Both are impossible to prove. From the same problem, if big-bang is real where did the stuff come from? And if there's a God where did he come from? Those are questions that, in my opinion can't be answered. Science can give me string theory the theory of evolution and all number of other 'what made us theories'. But that, in my mind is not so different than believing in a God. Your God just happens to be science. I'm not very religious but I do believe in something. But for the most part, I take science in much more than anything else. The hardest thing for me about believing in a creator, who crated him? I mean you can't just pop out of nowhere, and the "he's always been there" is getting old. And why are there so many religions if there has only ever been one God? I would think the people from the beginning of the bible would have taught all there kids, supposedly the only humans on the planet, that's there is only one God.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why do we have to know where we came from? Can't we just enjoy the fact we're here?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(12 Year Old): @647927 (FalloutOW): I totally agree with both of you. :D Even if scientists somehow magically did figure out how we and the universe got here, they aren't gonna figure it out in our lifetimes, it'll probably be at least another hundred years before they even get close to knowing for sure, so we don't have any reason to be worrying about it right now, really...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i honestly think it'll be thousands of years. Hey, in "Back to the future" they imagined 2015 to have flying cars and stuff like that. We don't have amazing things that they imagined we would.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(12 Year Old): I would love to do that, and for the most part those types of thoughts don't enter my mind. But when they do, it would be nice to know something.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What if it turned out that the god that existed didn't care? What if we were created as an accident or by chance? Surely we can't mean enough to receive attention from a single, all powerful, creator of the universe. You could prove to me that there was a god, but there's no way you could prove that he cares about us.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Another very good point. :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you are not close minded to the concept of religion then you are an agnostic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago