+393 Joseph Stalin did worse things than Adolf Hitler, i mean sure killing 12 million people is bad but Stalin killed 20 million and nobody gives a fuck, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's because Broseph Stalin was a boss. On a more serious note, however, the combined estimated death totals of the Holocaust and WWII far exceeds Stalin's purges.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I do not know who this is! D:< I have never heard of him! Dx Why did he do said action??

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do they not teach history in schools these days?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Apparently not...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Either that or OptimusPrime69 is 10 years old.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe she hasn't learned about him yet. Her profiles seems to read like that of a middle schooler.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They don't really teach much of the more modern history in middle. More about religion and American history (at least in the US and where I live) I have heard of him but didn't know about all that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When I was in middle, I learned american history, world history, and then history about my state

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ah yes, I forgot world and state, my bad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ok don't be so mean! i didn't learn about this in school either! russia was a topic in social studies when my sister was in grade 9 but when i got in to grade 9 they changed it to canadian government!!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound mean, it's not your fault it's the school's. He was just such an important historical figure that it should be taught, even if it's one lesson or something. I also learnt about him when we were learning about political systems because of Stalinism (in grade 9).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@789377 (Anonymous): @789388 (Rene_Magritte): @789389 (WryVendor): @789417 (Tater): @789774 (Anonymous): Um, okay, NO, I am not a middle schooler, I am in high school. Don't freaking assume things. And no, I take world history, and we have not learned this guy at all. So STFU and stop assuming stuff that you don't know anything about.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Polar, that maybe be but in the end winners of wars also write history.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh goodness, Animal Farm flashbacks...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think most people already know this. The way one of my history teachers explains it is thus: we give Stalin a "pass" because he was our ally during the war. However, now that the people to whom this would matter are dead and gone, we're beginning to realize Stalin was just as bad as Hitler and Mussolini.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What's also sad is that if you ask most middle school students they've never heard of Mussolini :/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't learn about him until freshman year in high school. It's not the students' faults, it's the school's.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yea, that sucks :(

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Anyone wishing to know about Russia can do that on their own time. It isn't relevant now.

by Anonymous 5 years ago

Yeah, i'm in 8th grade, and i think ive heard the name, but never in school

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Maybe it is difficult enough to get current events and us history into the heads of the spoiled brats in school today?? Not too much interest in Russian history, that is why reading books should still be assigned instead of i phone usage.

by Anonymous 5 years ago

Yeah pretty much, and Hitler was after world domination and Stalin wasn't.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Stalin wasn't our ally. The enemy of an enemy is not automatically an ally.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've never heard that he wasn't technically our ally during WWII... But I agree with the second half of the statement.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There were basically three different unities in WWII; the Soviet Union, the Allies and the Axis Powers. The war ended with the downfall of the Axis Powers, but the dispute between the Allies (mainly the US though) and the Soviet Union continued with the Cold War.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh ya I knew about the weird transition between "we're fighting the same person but we disagree" but I've always been taught/seen/read that the USSR was part of the Allies. I mean, Stalin was at all of the meetings except maybe one or two

by Anonymous 13 years ago

uh... I might be wrong actually... well at least I'm not the first person to spread misinformation on the internet!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"The enemy of an enemy is not automatically an ally." In war, it may as well be. You take every advantage.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Stalin was the lesser of two evils. Hitler wanted to take over all of Europe and purge ALL Jews from the planet, Stalin just wanted to purge those in his own country, yes still horrible but without the Russians the Allies could never have beaten the Axis powers. Just for a little perspective almost all countries were anti-Jew including Britain, Canada and the USA, although no purging took place.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When you look even farther (further? I get the two mixed up constantly.) most countries have been anti jew. It's very strange that that particular religion/culture throughout the years has been constantly singled out

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A lot of people don't seem to know that anti-Semitism was very prominent in most western countries before WWII.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think it's weird too. I think part of it (anciently) was because of the area they lived in, and in the Middle Ages the Church discriminated against them because they weren't Christian and because their ancestors crucified Jesus. I'm pretty sure Hitler told people the Great Depression in Germany was the Jew's fault because the sterotype of Jewish people being bankers was true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

fair point but Mao actually killed more than both of them combined

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was going to bring up this point, but you said it first. Here's my comment anyway: And what about what happened in the Asian countries during WWII? I don't remember all of the facts, but I believe China killed a lot of Japanese and put them in concentration camps.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well, japan was the one who invaded china during WWI. Japan was on germany's side.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In WWII Japan invaded my home country, the Philippines. Then they took over and were extremely cruel to us, the Bataan Death March for example. Not like I have a grudge against Japan today, but I can't believe what they did during WWII.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, and they raped a lot of women.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not like Stalin just massacred them. They were armed.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Better to rid the world of commies than rid the world of an innocent group of people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In soviet russia, leader revolts against YOU...... Sorry couldn't resist.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm in high school but I haven't head of him either w haven't learned much about Soviet Russia at all.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm so sorry

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I take Russian/Slavic history at my high school, and Stalin "liquidated", as my history book says, millions of people. He purposely had a reform of farms that didn't work, making all the millions of peasants in Russia die from starvation. So now you know. Please pass it on, it really is sad that so many people don't know about this event :(

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and what about Mao Zedong? he killed 45 million...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But there are just so many of them, that statistically, its like Stalin killing like 400000 guys.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I disagreed for a bit more personal reason. Hitler killed a lot of my family off, so I find him the worse of the two evils.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well Stalin killed more people in a longer time. He was in power for over 20 years, the Holocaust happened in around 10. I may have the numbers wrong, but thegemeral idea is true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hilter killed 12 million Jews. The TOTAL number of casualties around the world was over 60 million people. (when you add in the number of soldiers and civilians that died)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Only 6 million people of the 12 million that Hitler killed were Jewish. He killed a lot more people than just Jews. Political enemies, the disabled and challenged, people who hid the Jews, and more. Get it right, please. (:

by Anonymous 13 years ago

& on a sort of unrelated note, there is this kid in my art class whose name is Aryan White & he is white with blond hair & blue eyes. I just about had a field day when I met him xD

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The main difference between them, is that Hitler was killing all of these people in a short amount of time, with no justification. Stalin just killed people who were preventing his 'expansion' We did the same thing, remember those pesky little Native Americans getting in our way, we killed plenty of them. The difference is goal of extermination. If your goal is to eliminate, as Hitlers was, it looks really really bad. But if your goal was to further advance your country, as Stalin's was, its socially acceptable. Especially to Americans, who have a 'take what I want bitch' attitude.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He's stalin', but he's rushin'! Hehehehe....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yeah but the people Stalin killed didnt have to undergo concentration camps or horrific experimental medical tests....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i hate you all.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

love you too. <3

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Mao killed more than Stalin...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But Hitler was specifically torturing to death a specific race of people (well, several), while Stalin was killing political enemies.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hitler was purposefully exterminating the Jewish race, and killing Jews were one of his main ideas. Stalin killed more people, but Stalin's purpose was not for killing people--it was for modernizing the Soviet Union. The deaths caused by Hitler were way more intentional than the deaths caused by Stalin.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

go! bwaah!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know this makes me super dumb, but I don't know the details of Stalin other than he was from Soviet Russia. But making a guess, it may be because of the way Hitler killed them (plus with the Nazi experiment camps; the first time I cried concerning the Holocaust was learning about Block 10), and the purpose, which was literally just blatant racism.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

crude language gets a thumbs down every time.

by Anonymous 5 years ago