+588 A person doesn't choose to be gay or straight, it's just who they are and they can't change that. amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You're not born gay. You choose it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I disagree.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Im sure alot of people didnt want to choose the abuse the receive. They don't choose who they are attracted to.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But of course, I am sure no one really wants to choose abuse. I know plenty of kids who are gay that used to be straight. I think these people don't receive enough attention and they think being gay will suffice their needs. But this is also not true in all cases.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yeah i agree specially with the attention part

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's natures answer to overpopulation, perhaps. Therefore it is natural. And if you didn't know, it -does- happen in other species aswell, so it's not a concious choice. @89236 (baba): There's a difference between 1. Being a 'closeted' homosexual-- i.e. denying it or not being sure about it. 2. Being an attention whore. A LOT of people [mostly teenage girls, it seems] claim to be 'bisexual' because they believe it makes them appear 'hot' or something like that. That is completely and totally different from actually being homosexual.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just so happen to be bisexual, and I did NOT tell my family and a few friends about it just to get attention. I can get attention through things like doing well in school, and being a good person. In fact, I regret telling some of my lovely little Christian friends, because now they seem to think I'm some sort of heathen destined to rot in hell for all eternity.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say that every single bisexual person was out for attention. I was just acknowledging the fact that some girls pretend to be bi to attract attention. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think I may have come across as sort of mad, so I'm sorry if I was kind of mean. I'm just really used to getting negative comments about that particular aspect of my life, so I tend to take most stuff about people say about it as some one insulting me. But yeah, you're right. A LOT of girls at my school just act like they're bisexual so guys will think they're hot or whatever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's alright. :) And yeah, that's probably a big reason behind the whole 'it's a choice'/'it's for attention' arguement-- some teenage girls will do anything to be considered 'hot', even if it makes them fake.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I know, it sucks. :(

by Anonymous 13 years ago

these people that were "straight" before were either in denial, or they are not actually gay.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

these people that were "straight" before were either in denial, or they are not actually gay.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And no one would willingly chose something that would only take away their rights to love and make them a target for hate crimes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ha, it's like being gay automatically gets you slandered.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sadly, it does.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I am sure I can find a gay who has not. Just because ones that you might know have been, doesn't mean the ones I know have.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not saying every homosexual person out there have been, but a majority have.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And that also leads into the attention thing I think, whether it is positive or negative attention, they are still receiving it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What point are you trying to make here, baba? -.- Yes, they receive attention. Everyone does for some reason or another. That doesn't mean they decided "Hey, I'm gonna be homosexual! That'll get me lots of attention!" [although some horribly confused and desperate teenagers do -.-] Your argument is failing, dear.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

the point I am trying to make is that gay people are not born gay! I think they choose it, and attention is one of the reasons. Why, what point are you trying to make...dear?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why do you automatically assume that all people crave any form of attention that they can get?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I have nothing to add, because baba's argument merits no attention whatsoever, but I love how people get really angry when you add "dear" to the end of what you say to them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Me too, which is mostly why I'll randomly throw it in there while debating something. But shhh... ;)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Every gay person has been slandered actually. There's so many gay jokes, generalizations and stereotypes made every day and those make fun of ever gay person.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

did you choose to be a bigot or were you born like that?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i heard about a kid who got exorcised and became straight. all i could say was WHAT?!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I actually think thats possible.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

banana...ha

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've never met anyone who woke up one day, jumped out of bed, and exclaimed "I'm gay!".

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obviously it is not as simple as that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No it really isn't. I don't think people choose to be homosexual, then again there's no such thing as a gay gene.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But there is a such thing as gay jeans.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hahahaha that's funny. :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well... obviously being attracted to the same sex isnt natural... so its either a choice or a DNA flaw...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I disagree, it is natural. You don't choose who you fall in love with.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I disagree. There are people who share common interests, and like to do the same things. I think you are confusing love with attraction.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can't control who you fall in love with or who you're attracted to.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It occurs in nature, therefore it is natural. Many species exhibit homosexuality and bisexuality.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

name one

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dolphins.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Bats, dolphins, primates, cheetahs, domestic cats, African elephants, raccoons, brown bears, domestic chickens, emus, king penguins, salmon, bearded dragons, wood turtles, dragonflies, caribou and buffalos. Enough for you? Cause I can list more.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Don't forget fruit flies and hyena! :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ah, yes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

humans

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who you're attracted to might not be your choice, but acting on it certainly is.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So you're saying that, just because some people don't like it, they don't have the right to be happy? That they don't have the right to act on their desire and find love?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think she is saying that people like you... and gays are complaining that they are always being 'slandered'. They can stop it but instead continue acting upon it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

On the contrary, most homosexuals I know do not complain about being slandered-- they simply stand up for their rights as human beings. And I am not complaining, I'm simply pointing it out and sticking up for them. But they cannot 'stop' who they are.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I fail to see how someone can only be happy if they're fucking another dude in the ass. There are plenty of straight people in the world who never get married and are still happy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't say they had to have sex or be married to be happy, but you -do- need love. And just because you 'fail to see' that doesn't mean that it isn't true. It's not so much the 'fucking another dude in the ass', as you so crudely put, but the fact that we as human beings need emotional and physical intimacy with others. Who's to say a man can't- or shouldn't be able to -love a man or a woman can't/shouldn't love another woman? You have failed to provide any substantial reasons other than the obvious fact that you "don't get it".

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i know a lot of people who are gay/bisexual but they really don't want to be. it comes naturally to them and they can't help it. i think everyone is born straight and some change at some point in ther life.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree. It's not like in preschool boys would run from boys saying they had cooties. It was always boys chasing girls.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

of course not! well most atleast...but its because think about it...what is considered to be common in society is a boy and a girl. usually that what the little preschoolers know. they are only 4! they don't know about who they are and especially what love is and all that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

omg its easy to tell who acually knows what heir talking about as opposed to the very much opinionated ones who don't have a freakin clue what they r talking about... controversy

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And who's who in this situation? Just curious. :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

true, but we all have opinions and they all deserve to be heard whether they are educated or not

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I love that you said that. Freedom of speech is a right to all Americans (and it really should be to all people) regardless of how much they know about the subject. Plus, nothing's wrong with a little argument every once in a while to keep us on our toes :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You have a right to freedom of speech, you have a responsibility to become educated on the subject before you express your opinion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Adrii: Wow I really respect your view. Not once have you exactly argued, but stayed true to your opinion the whole time! =) And I completely agree with you! It's natural it happens. In life, I know plenty of straight people who fall for the dorky guy that gets made fun of. Not by choice, but because it's what is supposed to happen. Same for gays, not a choice, just happens. Love is love no matter what form.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God has a plan on how we are as a person.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Then why are some people born with Down Syndrome?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A lot of people with Down Syndrome are some of the sweetest and happiest people you will ever meet.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You can say that about a lot of things. Why are people born with clinical depression, why are people born into abusive families, why are people born with a handicap, etc. But if you'll stop and think for a second, some of the people who grew up in less than stellar households grow up to be huge activists for helping kids who can't control their situation. And kids with mental handicaps/disabilities/etc are some of the most inspiring people I know. Just sayin

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Exactly

by Anonymous 13 years ago

we're all born with the possibility to be bisexual, and being gay is the result of factors, like some hormones, being activated in your brain while you are a growing fetus. Saying someone has a choice to be gay or straight is like saying someone has a choice of what color your skin is. Did you any of you consciously ever make a choice and one day say, "Hm, I think I'll be straight and like the opposite gender." I don't think so.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No i definitely think you choose whether to be straight or gay. You choose who you're attracted to, if you like small noses, you're attracted to people with small noses. If you think big noses are hot, you're attracted to those people. You may change your mind and decide you hate people with big noses the next day, so.... people choose, i think

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um, no. People don't chose who they're attracted to-- be it the same/opposite sex or physical characteristics. You just -are-. Furthermore, I believe that anyone who thinks being gay is a choice is a closeted homosexual-- or at the very least is bisexual. Obviously -you- are making a concious choice to not act on it, which causes you to believe that gay people conciously decided one day "Hey, I think I'm gonna like guys now." when that's not the case. Try and prove me wrong without destroying and contradicting everything you just said. :) [This goes to everyone saying being homo/bisexual is a choice, not just this Anonymous]

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Wait wait wait, let me get this straight. (That totally rhymed). You are saying that "anyone who thinks being gay is a choice is a closeted homosexual-- or at the very least is bisexual". So as I interpret it, you are calling us gay, for believing that gay people choose it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you think its a choice, obviously you've made the choice to be straight-- therefore there are homosexual feelings somewhere in there that you're repressing. If there weren't, you wouldn't have had to chose, dear.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

haha, I love that dear thing. I am just saying something that I don't think you understand, and I am no professional so if you haven't understood me so far I have no idea how to get through to you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I understand what you're saying perfectly, baba. It's just that, well, you're wrong. You can't 'get through to me' because your argument is, frankly, wrong and therefore futile. You have failed to provide any evidence to back up your point and, for that matter, haven't even attempted it. We can resume this debate once you do so. :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ha, right. Just out of curiosity, why are you so defendant of this?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Nice comeback ;) And I'm defendant of it because I have homosexual relatives and friends. Why are you such a bigot? :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was just asking a question? Why'd you have to freak out? I haven't called you any names? You just seem much more passionate about this than others. I have not any intentions of abusing you or your relatives, just trying to make a point.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not freaking out, I'm just asking a simple question, dear. Whether or not you take offence is completely up to you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Usually people who take offense at simple questions have something to hide. *cough* And I agree that baba's argument is futile. It's like trying to argue that triangles have seven congruent angles.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah... *cough* *cough* :) ...Wh-what? They don't? D':

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thanks for calling me gay, but I'm not. And I don't think I care enough to try and make a strong argument. But that still doesn't change what I believe. I think this conversation is over, good day.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um. I didn't call you gay. We were refering to you taking offence to the bigot comment. -.- Regardless, good day to you, too. Or good night. Depending on where you live.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I am still in the closet, but I didn't choose to be gay. There isn't a choice, it's just who you are. You can't choose your sexual orientation

by Anonymous 13 years ago