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Abortion is the best form of birth control, amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'd say the pill or a condom is...but that's a good backup plan.
by Anonymous13 years ago
It is, I don't wanna wear a condom, abortion is the only thing besides abstenence (which is boring) that works 100 percent.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Except for the fact that abortion scars you physically and emotionally, as well as takes the life of an innocent child, and often prevents the mother from being able to ever have children agaiin. Sure, it works 100%. Idiot...
by Anonymous13 years ago
Fallacy. ;)
Some people may be emotionally scarred by abortion, but that's not something that can be applied to every case.
Physical scars? Maybe if you're getting a Mexican abortion.. (Woman hold onto a tree and yells PIÑATA!)
Actually, there's a very small chance you won't be able to have children again. Unless of course you went with the ghetto abortion.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Most people are both emotionally and psychologically scarred by abortion, yes. This website expands on that: http://www.abortionfacts.com/reardon/after_effects_of_abortion.asp
Physical scars don't stop at infertility; the tearing of the cervix, bleeding, hemorrhage, and an increase in the risk of breast cancer. If you would like more informaton, this site elaborates: http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/asmf/asmf13.html
Still see no physical harm?
by Anonymous13 years ago
@203972 (PurpleKneeSox): And they're making that choice, taking that risk by doing it. It may or may not be harmful to them, but the government needs not tell people what to do with their body just because there's a small risk.
Read my other comment (it's the very last one) and it will give more reasons why abortion should be kept a choice.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Saying that a baby is not a human because he/she can't live without being dependent on its mother, is like saying that a mentally ill person is not a human being because he/she can't live wihtout being dependent on its caretaker. It doesn't make sense.
Not only are there physical, emotional, and psychological scars to the mother, you're taking the life of an innocent child who did nothing wrong. Who says that a child should be killed because of the wrong actions of another man?
by Anonymous13 years ago
@217091 (PurpleKneeSox): I did not say they are dependant on the mother... I said they cannot sustain life outside the womb, whereas a mentally ill person can..
It isn't murder. And even if it could be called murder, the fetus is not protected against it because it is not a legal citizen until it exits the womb.
by Anonymous13 years ago
If the fetus is not a legal citizen until it exists outside the womb, then why is it that when someone murders a pregnant woman, the charge is 2 murders? It's ridiculous.
A mentally ill person, without a caretaker, cannot survive on his/her own. People who are on life support, are they no longer human beings because they can't survive without relying on that machine?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Well I would consider it 2 murders after 24 weeks.
Being dependent on a machine or some
Other object is different than not being able to sustain life outside of another person..
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's the same concept. They can't survive without the machine, babies can't survive without their mother. Babies also can't survive outside of their mother. It's called live-birth abortion, and it's horrible.
They consider it 2 murders whether the woman is 24 weeks or not. How about that. It's insane.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Do you consider mosquitoes,fleas, lice, tapeworms, and/or ticks alive? Because they, like babies are dependent upon humans to survive. In some ways, babies inside the womb are basically parasites. Parasites are living creatures, therefore babies are living too.
by Anonymous13 years ago
umm why did you vote no way??
by Anonymous13 years ago
(Danny):Anon fail
by Anonymous13 years ago
That was a bit late.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I have been away for several months.
by Anonymous13 years ago
What do you mean by Anon fail?
by Anonymous13 years ago
YOU DUMB FUK. The point of sexual intercourse is sexual reproduction. God, you're a fuking moron.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Maybe if you understood the biology of human beings you might not be so quick to agree
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yes the murder of innocent babies can be more convenient choice.
http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=13
After watching that video can you tell me if it's the right choice?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Catholic.org? That's not bias at all..
by Anonymous13 years ago
(Sobered) @203375 (Ashley): That's absolutely grotesque and horrifying. It doesn't matter where the video came from, it's the same as if it were from an abortion clinic. Except for the fact that abortion clinics would probably make it look clean and natural, whereas the rest of the world can get the real idea with this.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Does child birth look beautiful and natural?
by Anonymous13 years ago
(Your+name+(optional)): It may not be beautiful by certain standards. But the birth of a new child into the world is a beautiful thing, yes. And natural. If you're trying to compare the physicalities of abortion and childbirth, I'd say you're pretty ignorant.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Aha. ha. ha. Because youre totally allowed to have an abortion after about 13 weeks. Some people...
I must say, if you have not studied abortion and pregnancy in detail you shouldnt be acting like you know everything. Also, If people feel abortion is the right and only choice, let them be. Would you rather a child suffer though out its childhood because of abuse, malnourishment etc etc? Or be terminated to be put out of its future pain and suffering? If someone believes this is the right choice, its thier OWN decision.
by Anonymous13 years ago
it's called adoption. there are tons of people who can't reproduce and want children. if you place the baby for adoption everyone wins. you don't have to take care of the baby, the baby gets to live, and the other family gets to start or continue with their family
by Anonymous13 years ago
yeah, adoption is fine, but this is about abortion
by Anonymous13 years ago
Adoption takes years.
by Anonymous13 years ago
the name of the poster says it all. my opinion is DON'T HAVE SEX IF YOU DON'T WANT KIDS. your just taking it out on the baby by aborting.
by Anonymous13 years ago
What are people who can't afford children supposed to do?
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'm all for abortion... but not as use as BIRTH CONTROL, but as a back up plan, if you use the pill and/or condoms and they fail then i believe abortion is perfectly ok...
by Anonymous13 years ago
yea go ahead and be an idiot and have sex, then kill your baby, who is innocent, and could have a great life. idiotic moron
by Anonymous13 years ago
There are still the physical effects of pregnancy during and after the birth. And the movies, not every little kid who's put up for adoption gets adopted.@91025 (Anonymous):
by Anonymous13 years ago
If you're going to have sex take responsibility, you idiot.
Baby murderer.
by Anonymous13 years ago
@91025 (Anonymous): That last one was a reply to the wrong post.
Now on this post, I believe you mean you're all for the choice. Not abortion, lol.@91032 (Anonymous):
by Anonymous13 years ago
I don't know why but this keeps posting my comments on the wrong posts.
Anyways, what about the rape or incest scenarios?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Shame on you! baby killer i can't believe you put this on here you are a terrible person
by Anonymous13 years ago
(kelsey Shepherd): It's actually a fetus.
by Anonymous13 years ago
You're actually a homo sapien.
by Anonymous13 years ago
(kelsey Shepherd): This may be inappropriate for this post but....baby killer made me laugh.
by Anonymous13 years ago
NOOO!! Abortion is the best excuse for murder, it is not birth control and it is not a good backup plan. if you were man enough to lay around and play around, at least a part of you should be man enough to stay around (for the child).
by Anonymous13 years ago
Yeah, because who doesn't love getting pregnant several times in their life to kill every single baby...
by Anonymous13 years ago
Tell that to Russia; a country facing a serious population decline and economic problems because women choose to use abortion as birth control. Tell that to the women who have found themselves sterile after having abortions. Tell that to the women who face depression after having abortions. This is a sick comment.
by Anonymous13 years ago
If you're 'old' to have sex; you're old enough to raise a child. You stupid moron. If you Cant take the respnsibility of raising a child, you shouldn't be spreading your legs.
by Anonymous13 years ago
What about the rape and incest scenarios?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Actually no, the best form would be abstinence.
by Anonymous13 years ago
agreed!!
by Anonymous13 years ago
Don't feed the troll, guys.
by Anonymous13 years ago
aaaccttuuuaaalllllyyyy the best form would be to not have sex at all.
by Anonymous13 years ago
abortion really isnt that bad. it's like a second chance to make up for a mistake. would u rather hav the baby grow up in a disfunctional family? adoption is a good idea, but can end up getting rly complicated and makes ppl depressd. wait til ur ready for kids till u go unprotected, but i see abortion as a 2nd chance to hav a real family
by Anonymous13 years ago
i was adopted and so was my brother and we're not depressed at all idk why everyone thinks that just because someone was adopted their life is ruined. I also placed my baby for adoption 2 years ago and she's the happiest baby around and her adoptive family just adopted another baby boy in december
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's stupid I know. But I think the real reason is because movies and TV make the children who are adopted over-dramatic retards so everyone thinks they're depressed on in real life.
by Anonymous13 years ago
That is great that everything worked out great for you, but unfortunately it isn't that way for everyone. Not all kids put up for adoption get a happy home, or a home at all. And the mother still has to deal with the physical part of it, during and after.
by Anonymous13 years ago
yeah, abortion is bad, because its murder.
by Anonymous13 years ago
u should be happy that ur adopted, because u know that ur mom loved u enough to not MURDER u. and abortion scars u physically and emotionaly, and guess what, it makes u depressed having to know that u killed a baby who could have had a great life.
by Anonymous13 years ago
So because the kid might grow up in a dysfunctional family or struggle with depression, he/she doesn't deserve to live? Idiot.
by Anonymous13 years ago
babies are people, just like you.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Birth control is to keep you from GETTING PREGNANT. You're already pregnant if you get an abortion, so it's not birth control.
BTW; Abortion is just legal murder.
by Anonymous13 years ago
@118824 (ThisChick): ... birth... control... You don't give birth after an abortion amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
abortion is just legal murder. and i know that other people have said that but still. if you're responsible and mature enough to fuck someone and get them knocked up, you're responsible enough to have a baby.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Absolutely. Think it through dumbasses.
by Anonymous13 years ago
@122981 (asshole): And what about rape and incest?
And not everyone who has sex is mature or responsible..
by Anonymous13 years ago
That's the point. If two people THINK they are mature and responsible enough to go and have sex, then they are going to handle the consequences of being stupid and immature.
by Anonymous13 years ago
the virgin mary proved that abstinence does not work 100%
by Anonymous13 years ago
Just STFU. Really. Just STFU. Oh, and GTFO while your at it yes?
by Anonymous13 years ago
ahhaaa nice :)
by Anonymous13 years ago
settle down it was just a joke
by Anonymous13 years ago
it was a stupid and offensive joke!! if she didnt have jesus u wouldnt be here. so shut the hell up.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Assuming they're Christian.
by Anonymous13 years ago
ABORTION IS WRONG U MURDERES
by Anonymous13 years ago
Abortion is awesome!
by Anonymous13 years ago
by the time you know you are pregnant the baby already has a heart beat so your killing someone....if your not ready to have a kid then you shouldnt have sex wwithout condoms.....
by Anonymous13 years ago
So make sure to make your step dad or rapist wear a condom ;)
by Anonymous13 years ago
Less than 1% of abortions are done on rape victims, so stop trying to argue that point like it's a huge issue. You look ridiculous.
by Anonymous13 years ago
if you want to consider yourself a murderer forever, because you are the reason something with a heartbeat died, then yes.
otherwise, this is the most cruel and unworthy amirite i have ever seen.
by Anonymous13 years ago
you probably got one.
by Anonymous13 years ago
100% effective. Ain't nothing wrong with killing someone. Life isn't fair, death isn't fair, don't try to make it so. Killing is nature.
by Anonymous13 years ago
damn idiot
by Anonymous13 years ago
You are one of the sickest people on this planet if you believe that. Go to fucking hell
by Anonymous13 years ago
So I can come to your house and murder you in your sleep? Kthxbai.
by Anonymous13 years ago
you are disgusting.
by Anonymous13 years ago
anal is the best form of birth control. problem solved.
by Anonymous13 years ago
how about u dont need birth control, u slut, cause u shouldnt be having sex in the first place if u dont want a child. think about it u asshole
by Anonymous13 years ago
*Sigh* and I repeat; rape and incest.
by Anonymous13 years ago
NO! Keeping your legs closed is the best form of birth control!
by Anonymous13 years ago
*Sigh* and I repeat; rape and incest.
by Anonymous13 years ago
abortion is a form of murder. Why would you want to murder a child that hasnt even had a chance to enjoy life?
by Anonymous13 years ago
ok, to EVERYONE.
the best form of birth control is not having sex, then abortion.
Before 3 mouths its not a baby, just a bunch of growing cells...kinda like a tumor
by Anonymous13 years ago
A ball of cells with potential for life. And actually, by 11 weeks an unborn child has a heartbeat.
At 9 weeks from conception, an unborn child can feel pain.
The best form of birth control is abstinence, and if you aren't willing to wait until you are ready to handle a baby to have sex, then you need to grow up and take responsibility for your actions.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Hi, I'm Ashley and I will be on the pro-choice side.
To everyone who is like "OMG Abortion is like MUrderr! Your killing a litle babii!"
1. It is a fetus. It cannot sustain life outside the womb.
2. It isn't "legal murder" as many people have posted. The fetus does not have rights because it is not a citizen until after it is born.
3. With this instance of conflicting liberty (between the mother and the fetus) the mother will always win. The mother is a rational, autonomous being that can sustain life, whereas a fetus is none of those.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Ashley,
1. It cannot sustain life outside the womb... does that mean we kill people who cant sustain life without a pacemaker or some other artificial apparatus?
2. If it has a heart beat obviously it is living, as that's how hearts work, and technically it is a citizen, I was a juror on a murder case where an unborn baby was killed and it was ruled a double homicide.
3. So because someone isn't rational and cannot sustain life on their own they aren't a life? People with a mental retardation are not necessarily rational but they deserve life, and there are many people who use things everyday to sustain life.
To those of you who say it's better for an abortion to occur than someone to have a bad life but as Shakespeare said "it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all"
by Anonymous13 years ago
@227844 (Anonymous):
1. A person with a pacemaker is a legal citizen, a fetus is not. And sustaining life with an object is different than with a person.
2. You're logic is "if it has a heart beat, it is a person." I would first like to point out how that is flawed because a cow has a heart bear, but it is not a person. And second, that doesn't change the fact that the mother has rights guaranteed by the government whereas the fetus does not.
3. That isn't relevant to my last argument... Maybe you got it mixed up with my first. Reread the third then respond.
That quote really is not relevant in any way.. But I'll give you one that is "Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." ~Edward Abbey
by Anonymous13 years ago
you are arguing on a basis of legality rather than ethicality. so tell me this. do you think that the law of our government is more valuable than morals, compassion, and humanity??? if so, then you are blind.
by Anonymous13 years ago
A heartbeat is not what makes something alive. Sponges do not have hearts but they are alive. There are set laws defining what is alive and one of them is being able to keep itself stable (temperature, nutrition), but the mother has to help with this so it si not alive.
by Anonymous13 years ago
abortion should never be used as a form of irth controll. If you're stupid enough to get pregnany, you should go through with the pregnancy. You can give the baby away to adoption or whatever. But killing a baby because you were stupid is just rediculous.
I believe that there are some situations where abortion is apropriet. Like if a girl is raped. She shouldn't have to have the child that wasn't by choice. But if you choose to get pregnant, you choose to live with the consiquinces. People who use abortion of just a regular form of birth controll pis me off.
by Anonymous13 years ago
A fetus will grow into a legal citizen.
I meant to imply that if a fetus has a heartbeat. Not anything pertaining to animals. So if we're putting an age on citizenship, at what age are you a citizen? Because citizens can be charged to the full extent of the law except under certain circumstances.
I was raped at the age of thirteen, went through with birthing the child even though I was homeless and gave it up for adoption. My biological son is happy as can be with his new family.
If I could go through with having a baby after being kicked out, anyone can. There is no reason for abortion.
by Anonymous13 years ago
And a sperm and egg grow into a fetus, does that make spermicides and condoms murder weapons?
Someone is a citizen after they are born.
That's great that you're so fine with that but let's remember not everyone is like you. For others the idea of carrying the seed of their rapist inside them can be too much.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'm so sick of people being called a baby murderer for having an abortion. First of all, it's not a baby it's a fetus. Second of all, it's not considered murder because the fetus was never alive. Their only considered alive after they take a breath outside the womb. Also what happens if your baby is child of rape? Or incest? Finally,what if your a young girl (+12) whose been raped and is now pregenant? Are you guys going to call her a babt killer?
by Anonymous13 years ago
the person who wrote this is named imsowrong haha i get it
by Anonymous13 years ago
i think that people focus on the problem of what the women chooses, but there should be more focus on the fact that they get to choose at all. some people think abortion is a bad decision, some think good. i think that the important thing is that it remains just that- a decision. it is a highly personal issue and a women should be able to make the right choice themselves, whatever that may be.
by Anonymous13 years ago
um, no the best form of birth control : DON"T FRAKING HAVE SEX!!! evert thought of that?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Public service announcement: Be sure to tell that to your dad/rapist when he tries to touch you.
by Anonymous13 years ago
A woman has a choice when she gets pregnant. To abort or not to abort: that is the question. For all you women out there who were abused and raped, and got pregnant as a result, I do not blame you at all for your choice. I completely understand why you wouldn't want to be linked to that person, and why you would never want to raise his child as yours. But... (there's always a but), I don't believe in other abortion. At all. Period. Every child deserves a right to live. Why is it that when we murder babies outside the womb, it's illegal? Birth control pills may be a pain, but I would rather take a dozen pills every day for the rest of my life then kill a child.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Because A child outside the womb is a citizen. That's why it's different.
by Anonymous13 years ago
ahahaha i like how the person's name is imsowrong
by Anonymous13 years ago
Exactly. The person's joking. ^ and now there's a crazy heated debate with half of the comments just saying that young women who have been raped should have the option of abortion. Obviously. I don't think anyone disagrees with that... so stop saying it over and over again.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Abortion is just an alternative for irresponsible people. I don't think abortion should be an option unless having the baby will harm the mother. It's sad how women get abortions just because "having a baby will inconvenience them (eye roll)." Think adoption!
by Anonymous13 years ago
When you imply 'birth control' I think of not getting pregnant at all. Such as being abstinence, the pill or a condom. When you get an abortion, you're already pregnant. So controlling not being pregnant kind of throws itself out the window there.
by Anonymous13 years ago
if you believe in god, you're so going to hell for that
by Anonymous13 years ago
im not judging anyone who has had an abortion..but there is the morning after pill its not an abortion.
by Anonymous13 years ago
ok guys a fetus isnt even a fetus untill 3 months so cool it you wouldnt even be killing a beating heart like people claim. what argument do u have now?
by Anonymous13 years ago
It is killing a life. All life is precious, born or unborn. Even if a baby isn't fully formed, the life cycle has already started. From the moment a sperm and egg combine, it is a separate being.
by Anonymous13 years ago
A baby is not a human when it's inside of the mother? What is it, then? An octopus? That's extremely ignorant. It amazes me how selfish people can be. If you got pregnant, you pay the consequences. You don't have to murder it because you're too scared of what will come. Under the circumstances of rape, IT'S STILL A BABY. A baby that hasn't done anything and still has a chance for a good life.
There are PLENTY of good families who can't have a baby of their own. There is ALWAYS an option to give your baby to another family. People are so confused on this topic. They don't realize how many people want a baby that can't have one.
by Anonymous13 years ago
the last comment was just stupid.no it is not a bloody octopus, its a freaking fetus! and why should a woman who was raped have to be remined everytime she see's the child what happened to her? its not like the fetus will care, do you remember being in the womb?i didnt think so.being pregnant is hard enough!there was a case a while ago where a young girl (13) got raped and, being catholic, was going to keep the baby, she was informed by many doctors that giving birth would kill both her and the baby.she had an abortion.because he simply said SORRY, the rapist was forgiven, but the young girl was not, and therefore banned from her church.so before you go thinking that abortion is never ok and the church is right, think of that girl who when she needed her god the most, wasnt allowed to go to church.yet some sick, messed up man was welcomed back in with open freaking arms even though he ruined the life of that poor, innocent girl!
by Anonymous13 years ago
That is sick. As is any case of rape.
But as for abortion, what if that baby would have grown up to be a president of america? of a neuro surgeon? or the doctor to cure cancer? or write a song that would effect millions? What if that baby could have been the best thing that would ever happen to anyone? Its definitely a tough issue when someone is raped, but it wasn't the baby's fault. so why should that baby be denied the chance to live?
The world is full of so many evils, like rape. but lets not encourage more, like murdering babies who haven't even had the chance to experience the world. I have a baby sister. and I saw her kicking in my mother's womb. and I saw the ultrasounds. She moved. She had tinytiny parts. and I loved her before she was born. and even though Im 16 years older than her, i cant imagine life without her anymore. She was DEFINITELY a person BEFORE she left my mother's womb. And I would scream that at the top of my lungs anywhere.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'm not agreeing with the post, but I gotta say...
the baby could also turn out to be a murder, rapist or possibly live in pain and suffering for all their lives.
Again, not saying that I agree with the post, just making a point that you can't expect every about-to-be-killed-baby to grow up all powerful. D:
by Anonymous13 years ago
your argument is invalid because fate is not pre-determined. There is nobody "destined" to become a president or surgeon.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Another person before me made a good point, can you remember being a fetus? No. Aren't we all taught not to dwell on what would've been? We are always going to have a president, with or without abortions, and the odds of one baby becoming president are very slim. Also, there is a point during the fetus's growth where it becomes illegal to abort. However far along your mother must have been, it was probably not the time to choose abortion. Your point is invalid.
by Anonymous13 years ago
yea but what if that baby grew up and found out it was the result of a rape. how would you feel?
by Anonymous13 years ago
I say that the only cases which an abortion is fine with me is when:
1. Rape & incest
2. Underaged pregnancy. (aka, young enough to severely hurt the mother)
by Anonymous13 years ago
ABORTION IS WRONG! STFU!!!
by Anonymous13 years ago
you're an idiot. There are set laws defining what is alive and unborn children do not fit into those requirements. Look it up. The real flaw with this post is that one can take a birth control pill if they think they are pregnant.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I'd say the best form of birth control is to not have sex, amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
whitechocolate, um yea we were making valid points and arguments, somehow telling us its wrong and saying stfu isnt quite as effective.....
by Anonymous13 years ago
It's someones choice, personally I wouldn't get one but I won't judge someone if they get one, I think people should only get them in a few cases: Rape, not able to take care of a baby, and people who are not in a stable relationship.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Ummm...no. I'd have to say that frickin' BIRTH CONTROL is the best form of birth control. Besides just NOT HAVING SEX.
by Anonymous13 years ago
abortion does work, but its pretty damn inconvinient
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