You can still celebrate it, just please don't pretend it has nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus was still a human whether you like it or not, and this celebrates his birth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25th. The founders of Christianity just chose Dec 25th because that's been an important date in older, more established religions. It was so people would be more receptive to the new religion of Christianity.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

@Phil The only proof that Jesus existed was written a hundred years after his death. I'm not saying he didn't exist, just that it isn't a solid fact either

by Anonymous 11 years ago

When I celebrate it, it has nothing to do with Jesus. I celebrate Rudolph, Santa, presents, lights, family, snow, and good food.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yah, but you can't deny that the holiday is about Jesus' birth. You don't have to acknowledge it, but you have to accept it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's actually a pagan holiday. And sun worshiping religions used the "birth of Jesus" as a relation to the equinox. Just like the three days being dead and then being resurrected when the sun (from the earths pov) stays still for three days because of the earth's tilt and it starts moving in the way where the days get longer. There's multiple religions where they involve bread and fish, a virgin, etc. They mention multiple references to "entering a new age" and every time a new age starts we move into the new house in astrology, and they always match up. For example, when Jesus said moving into a house with a man with buckets carried over his shoulders, that's the sign for pices. And when the east star lines up with the three stars of orions belt, they point to the sun and when that happens were in the house of virgo, hense born of a virgin. There's a lot of other things in about 30 religions that say a story to explain the stars.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Have you been watching Zeitgeist, by any chance?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'd like to add that the "birth of Jesus" to them was a birth of the sun.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Buckets over shoulders is Aquarius...

by Anonymous 11 years ago

@shelby Yeah Ive watched it but its not my only sourse. @anon oops, my mistake

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Pretty sure that a lot of the customs in Christmas were based on Paganism...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Santa - St. Nicolas Presents - Well, you kinda have to have one holiday with presents Snow - Well... its in December... not really a choice... Rudolph - I'll give you that one Family - Huge part in Christian faith Good Food - People just figure that you should eat well on Christmas

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Presents: Nobody needs a holiday with presents. Christmas has kind of become a center for comercialism. Family? I'm pretty sure thats a big part in a lot of people's lives no matter what religion. Good Food...Nobody can argue with good food :D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Santa- Yeah that's Saint Nick, I'll give you that one. Presents- Pagan custom Snow- Dosn't snow on Christmas where I live (besides that's not really a custom) Family & Good food- Pagan custom to celebrate with a feast for the Winter Solstice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You spelled atheist wrong...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fail... my bad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

America isn't a religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... *facepalm* Did this post say that America is a religion? It states that taking out Christ, the main reason for Christmas is comparable to taking out America (the country) from an American holiday.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Good thing we didn't take America out of the fourth of July. It's a holiday based on eating a lot and blowing shit up (about the only things America is good for).

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Insert Reference to Hiroshima*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*responds with a witty, humorous pun on the obesity of America*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*Inserts Pointless Comment*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm pretty sure it was just an example.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Wanna hear something you wont like? i'm an atheist, i celebrate Christmas as a commercial holiday. for me it's about family, love, and being a good person. its about the smells of gingerbread and pine. it's about giving gifts and having a good time. i don't believe in god. if there was a jesus i don't believe he was the masaih, and guess what? I love chirstmas. and i can deny Christianity all i want. oh and Christmas was original a pagan celebration of the winter solstice, not the celebration of Jesus' birth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth. It has adopted many pagan traditions over time, but the pagan holiday is the Winter Solstice. You don't have to celebrate the religous aspect of the holiday, but don't tell Christians they can't call THEIR holiday what they want. Keep in mind that Christmas was when God gave his Son so Christians could be saved from the evils of hell. To you it's giving gifts and spending time with family. Both groups celebrate similar concepts but it is a Christian Holiday

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well said.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm not religious but i agree. It's still a christian holiday even though most of us choose to ignore that

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It's //not// a Christian holiday though. It's a pagan one.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

If you call it christmas it's a christian holiday. If you call it winter solstace or whatever fair enough, but christmas is christian.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

The date, in and of itself, does not matter. Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, whether his birth actually occurred on that date or not. It is the day chosen to celebrate it, making Christmas a Christian holiday.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Dude, it's not a Christian holiday. I'm an atheist and it even pisses me off when people use the who "it's a pagan holiday!" crap. It's called Christmas. Christ - mas.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

@kip: your argument is illogical and proves nothing. What are you trying to back up here?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Why was colebowl downvoted? All aspects except for maybe the name are borrowed from Roman pagan traditions. It's a plain and simple fact. Christians essentially claim it as their own, anyway, though.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Because by calling it christmas you're celebrating the christian holiday, even if you're not celebrating the religious part of it. I dont know why people have a problem with that, i'm fine with celebrating their holiday if it means i get presents, good food and time with my family. If you're so against celebrating the christian holiday call it winter solstace or just whatever name you want.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

IT'S JUST A NAME. That doesn't mean you're celebrating the Christian holiday, you're celebrating whatever the hell you want no matter what you call it.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Looks like you took the Christ out of Christian though.....

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Why would we want to take the Christ out of Christmas? Who wants a holiday called Mas?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Taco Bell.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Christmas may be lost, but thank god people still celebrate the 4th of July in the spirit of our forefathers, dumping crates of teas in the harbor and signing treaties while wearing britches, like true Americans! Oh wait.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

"Christ" was never in Christmas. It was a pagan holiday that had nothing to do with Christianity, and then businesses took advantage of it by promoting commercialism through ideas such as Santa Claus, etc.

by Anonymous 11 years ago