+513 Instead of telling women how to dress so they "won't get raped", men should just simply taught to not rape. The victim is never to blame, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ikr girls aren't like this skirt is a little short I hope some guy well fuck me by force tonight. I mean if a girl is dressed slutty that can't be an excuse. If she's slutty enough it won't be hard to convince her to have sex with you.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

True. I just firmly believe in people expressing themselves through their attire. So if one day a woman (or whomever) dresses in a way that is perceived as "slutty", who fucking cares. It's never an invitation. And even worse; I hate when people make jokes about rape, or when I hear people say a rape victim "was asking for it".

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Right, I mean I know girls who are sluts that wear just jeans and tees. You can't judge a book by it's cover and if a guy wants it that bad he can pay a hooker, or I don't know learn how to treat a lady! I mean if a guy walks into a nudist colony and rapes a girl what's he gonna say? I'm sure noone is like gee whiz I'm gonna wear a revealing outfit in the hopes that I get raped today!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

yeah but you cant prevent criminals from being criminals. Therefore control what you can and wear a God Damned jean skirt!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There is wisdom in God's words when he said "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes..." - 1 Timothy 2:9

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm not familiar with the Bible, "God", or religion for that matter. But I am curious about what the Bible/God says about rapists?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/rape.html Second one.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Old Testament is bullshit because of the New Testament. Any argument stemming from it is void.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Kill rapists? But if a man rapes an engaged girl out in the country, then only the man must die. 26Don’t do anything to the girl. She has not committed a sin for which she deserves to die. This is like the case of someone who attacks and murders another person. 27The man found the girl out in the country. She may have screamed for help, but no one was there to rescue her. It's obvious to see where right-wings get their ideas from.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

She asked what the bible said about rape. So I showed her that. I dont think we should kill rapists. I think jailtime is sufficient.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Why do we have to bring God into every little situation?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Hmm...maybe because God is the reason for every little situation.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

LOL are you shitting me. HAHAHAHA I'm CRYING at your stupidity.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm just waiting for the moment when you grow up and realize that your opinion won't be everybody else's.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I already know that. I just really think your opinion sucks. That is all.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's...not an opinion...but alright...

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Religion is an opinion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Sure, but God being the Creator of everything is a fact. Just because you don't believe something doesn't mean it's not true.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

God is NOT fact. Please prove to me God is real.. please. "Just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it's not true." You don't believe there isn't a God. Also sidenote: People like you make me want to commite suicide.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Did you know that around 3000 years ago, you were considered ignorant if you DIDN'T believe in God? Atheism hasn't always been around. It grew because people like you began to criticize every Christian idea and completely forget the roots of Christianity. As for the suicide bit, I'm deeply sorry that people who want you to live make you want to die. Good night.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Aww a butthurt biblehumper. Haven't seen one of those in a while. Anyway, Atheism has been around since "God" has been around.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

A ''butthurt Bible humper''? Seriously? I'm dying of laughter. XD

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true. The definition of a fact is a provable concept. You cannot prove the existence of God. Besides, isn't religion about faith, not fact?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I know, right? I mean, every time I braid my hair or wear something nice, I get raped. It sucks.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There is no correlation between the cost of the close you where and whether or not you encounter a rapist.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I agree that the victim is never to blame, and I know of plenty of victims who were wearing jeans and a sweater or something like that. But honestly, people KNOW you're not supposed to rape others. Rapists just do it anyways, not really something you can teach in my opinion.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Except in America, where the victim is usually the one getting punished for their crimes.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's the American "justice" system for you. Prejudiced, unjust, and corrupted

by Anonymous 12 years ago

as opposed to the country i'm from, where I would be persecuted for being a rape victim and deemed "useless to society" and unable to marry for not being a virgin? stop complaining.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They have internet in those countries?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I didn't say we had the worst one, now did I? I'm well aware that most countries have horrible justice systems.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What do you mean the victim gets prosecuted?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think the victim is to blame, but generally in most modern non-anarchy countries, they DO teach people not to rape. That's not what solves anything-- and I don't think the woman dressing solves much either. I don't know many rape victims, but something just tells me the fact that someone was wearing a skirt doesn't really push a guy over the "rape" line-- like... either he was going to or not. I don't know.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

*Sigh* People just dont GET IT! Men are taught not to rape, women are taught not to dress like sluts. Individuals doing the wrong thing does not indicate the gender in its entirety.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Problems: -honestly I've never heard of anyone being taught to dress to avoid rape. -stats show that dressing provocatively doesn't affect rape ones chances of being raped. -men are taught by society not to rape. -"The victim is never to blame" so if i jump in front of a moving car then the i'm not at fault?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

You're at fault, but you aren't being victimized.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

In response to the last one: I think the person whose car you dented up is the victim in that situation.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It doesn't matter whose fault it is. You should still try to avoid getting raped. It's not like you can tell a woman who was raped "don't worry though, it wasn't your fault, we should have taught him better" and it will make her feel better.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I read that paragraph in Homestar's voice.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h95-IL3C-Z8

by Anonymous 12 years ago

holy shit i love their accent! l

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Shouldn't we also teach women not to rape?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Meh. I wouldn't mind. hello

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Shouldn't we also teach women not to rape?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Women need to be taught how to discourage or avoid being raped, and I believe clothing does have to do with this in some cases. Men also need to be taught not to rape women. Both sexes need to be educated.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

How do you avoid being raped? Wear armor and carry a gun? There is no way you can avoid being raped, most of the time, people are raped by people they know. You can't do much to stop it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I know, but there are precautions you can take. "Don't go walking around New York City late at night in dark alley ways wearing a mini skirt." This very well could not make much of a difference, but it's still something. You would think that's common sense, but for some, it's not. I just think it's not fair to pin everything on the guys. Both sexes need to be aware.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Rape is not like robbery. You are more likely to get raped by someone you know than by a stranger. People get raped in schools, in office buildings, at parties, and in their own homes. Your clothing doesn't make you more likely to get raped either. You aren't raped because you were dressing 'slutty" you are raped because a rapist raped you. 100% of the rape is the rapist's fault. 0% of it is the victim's fault. That being said, I still think all people should take self defense course at some point. It can only help you.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Okay, you're right about most rapes not being committed by strangers, but what about those women that knowingly put themselves in high-risk situations? If a woman goes to a sketchy bar, gets blithering drunk, and passes out leaving way for some man to rape her, was it not her initial conduct that put her in that predicament ? Aren't we taught not to accept drinks from strangers at parties for fear of date-rape drugs? This is the education that I think women need to avoid situations that could lead to rape (perhaps I didn't make that clear in my original comment). Yes, the rapist is at fault. I never said the woman is, but there are ways she can avoid running into a rapist. Obviously this is not fool-proof. Yes, a rapist can be in her own home, she could be a child, or dressed appropriately,etc, but in some cases, not all, behavior can have its effects.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm all for promoting public safety and awareness. But I think saying "don't wear short clothing and drink or you'll be raped" is just as stupid as saying "don't be old and rich or your grandchildren will kill you for your inheritance" or "don't live in Chicago, you'll be shot by gangs". Women should not be expected to live in fear of being raped. We shouldn't accept that rape as a normal occurrence and make women change their behavior to prevent being raped. That's not the way we should look at it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I understand that teaching men not to rape is logical, and I think it's a great idea, but let's say we did do this, there will always be the man that doesn't listen. So if a woman can do things to make sure she does not find herself in high-risk situation, she should, and she needs to be taught to do this, hence me saying that both sexes need to be educated. I agree with you that rape can happen under a variety of circumstances and is not always committed by a stranger. I also hear you when you say the way a woman dresses doesn't affect whether she is raped or not. This might be because some men rape to assert power, out of rage, etc. But isn't there a percentage of rape caused by lust, even if it is small? Arousal is caused by visual stimuli as well as physical. If a woman is scantily clad, a man would be more aroused than if she was covered head-to-toe, no? Could this arousal because of her exposed skin not cause a man with low morals and lack of self-control to rape her? If so, it is unfair that a woman has to limit her wardrobe to feel safe, or perhaps to be safer, but then that would be the sad reality.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Rape is never ever ever even partially the victims fault. EVER. So you should never act like its women's responsibility to not get raped because there is nothing they can do to avoid it. I don't know how else to say it. The victim-blaming attitude is poisonous and its hurting victims everywhere. Here are some other people who are fed up with it: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpw3xwZq4V1qbdn1zo1_500.jpg http://keralovell.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/slut-walk.jpg?w=298&h=303 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWxdA35sLKI/TgIlsiTK38I/AAAAAAAAARY/-owo7vNbSs0/s1600/r-SLUTWALK-CLEAVAGE-large570.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/rlandry/5647802320/ http://www.lionsdenu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/things-that-cause-rape-17191-1307630322-1.jpg http://www.timesunion.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1330224&width=628&height=471 http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6y28AcC81qdms67o1_500.jpg

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Okay, you made your point, and I was wrong in saying that there is a minuscule chance that some rapes could be linked to clothing. I still believe that women AND men should be educated (public safety and awareness as you put it), and I do believe that rape is always the rapist's fault (I just thought clothing might be a catalyst on rare occasion). Women participating in high-risk activities should be wary, and such behaviors can lead to rape (even if it isn't likely) which is still the rapist's fault. I also want to make clear that I never believed unattractive women wearing non-revealing would not be raped on the street or that slutty women deserved it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

As you say I've made my point, and you've made yours. There's nothing much else we can do. So long for now.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They told everyone, not just guys, not to rape at college orientation. Including not taking advantage of drunk people because they could be too intoxicated to clearly consent. They explained that looking slutty and other stuff didn't equal consent. I'm going to a party school so this stuff was heavily stressed.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ok I agree about how the victim is never to blame. But I'm confused on how you're supposed to teach men not to rape and how you're supposed to teach girls how to dress conservatively. Neither thing can be taught, it can be commanded, but that doesn't mean that anyone is going to listen.

by Anonymous 12 years ago