We don't associate with commies! Except, ya know, China... FUCK YEAH, 'MURIKA!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

>Implying China is communist. >Implying communism is bad.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

1) China is technically a communist country. It's not something you can 'imply'. Although they're slowly shifting to capitalism. 2) This isn't my personal opinion, it's a known fact the US government doesn't like communism.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

China is communist in name and governance rhetoric only, and yes the USA still has a hangover from the Cold War which means that countries damaged by 20 years+ of American embargo are crippled by such policies out of context.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I just wanna make it clear that I wasn't making a a political statement or anything, it was just a joke.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Oh yeah, I got that, the comment was just clarification in general

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Israel offered Palestine a country and Arafat said no because he wanted half of Jerusalem, too. They can't have their own country until they acknowledge that Israel also has a right to their own country.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Recently a leaked paper showed that the PLO had offered a very, very generous settlement to Israel, which included an Israeli Jerusalem. This was rejected.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Link? And Israel probably just didn't want to appear like they were getting weary of the conflict.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, Israel specified that they wanted the entire West Bank in that deal, that they have said they will annex if the UN vote on statehood goes through this week. Israel complains about Iranian rhetoric about destroying Israel, but the Israelis issue the same message regarding the Palestinians, who simply happened to have been living there for a couple of millennia.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Israel isn't on a mission to destroy the Palestinians, the Palestineans are on a mission to destroy them. Along with a lot of other people that are near Israel. Israel doesn't attack unless provoked. The Palestineans are the ones launching rockets, and Israel responds with blockades and military action. Then the Palestineans go off and do it again.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This is such standard-issue bullshit that I'm not even going to respond in full. Try going to these places mate and reading outside of the USA/Israel platform. There is a slow motion genocide going on that rivals the holocaust in magnitude.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Ok I couldn't bear it. "Israel isn't on a mission to destroy the Palestinians" Yet they build a state on top of an existing culture then forced the inhabitants out, then threaten to annex said state if they are legally granted statehood by the world's ONLY global authority. "the Palestineans are on a mission to destroy them" Some yes, if someone invaded England, made it a religious state and forced me to move to Scotland I'd be pissed, and would probably want that state destroyed. Mind you, the majority of both Israelis and Palestinians don't care how the conflict ends, as long as it does. "Israel doesn't attack unless provoked" This is the official statement issued by the IDF, this does not equate it to the truth. If Hamas fire a rocket into Israel and kill some people, does this justify the Israelis turning off the water supply to a Gaza refugee camp? "Then the Palestineans go off and do it again." Yeah, its called a war of survival. Just like the Vietnamese "went off and did it again", and the French "went off and did it again" in WWII, etc etc. All of these are unrelated conflicts, but the principle remains. Please do some contrapuntal reading

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The Palestineans don't just want Israel gone because they took ther land, they also hate them because they're Jews. The same reason that everyone else hates Israel. And no, Israel isn't justified in turning off the water. Im not defending them there. And seriously, do you have a link to all this annexation and statehood and negotiation business?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This may be true for some, its impossible to generalise, however even if it is true, the Jews do not have a "get out of jail free card" because of centuries of maltreatment and the holocaust. I support a Jewish homeland, but if its realisation creates a very similar problem to what it is supposed to be solving (millions displaced, discriminated against etc), then its hardly a success. I don't hate Israel, I hate the Israeli government.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well where are they supposed to go if not where they are now? They were promised a homeland by England, and they got it. And they've been trying to live there for the last hundred years, and they had boundaries drawn up (the green line) and then the Arabs attacked them and got their asses kicked in the six day war. Israel did not fire the first shot. The Arabs obviously aren't going to stop attacking them, so they can't stop either.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Israel is an example of failure of idealism over realism. The ideal is that the jews, who have been beaten on for centuries have a place to live in peace, the reality is that this involved pushing people out of their homes and leaving a very unpopular state amongst enemies. Honestly, somewhere like the USA would have been perfect, they obviously wouldn't have had (or needed) a religious state, they could live in their own communities but still participate in the local culture. I really don't want to come across like I have no sympathy for the jews, I do, I just wish that people could give the same treatment to the Palestinians and work towards a solution that is better suited to both parties. (A single secular state where both can live as they wish).

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But that's not really good enough for Israel (and I'm not exactly sure how religious the Palestinians are, but I assume they want this too) They want to live by the code of their religion, and have the government run according to that religion. They want a theocracy. And Jews living under the same government as Arabs can never be a theocracy. But I agree that they picked a horrible place to settle. They're surrounded by people that hate them! And yes, they have gone about it the wrong way by throwing people out of their homes, but that is the only place that I see Israel being at fault. Everything else they've done is in retaliation to Arab attacks. The Arabs should realize by now that Israel is 100X stronger than they are, and that lobbing rockets into their cities does nothing but piss them off. If the Palestinians want their homeland back, they need to do it without violence. And they had a chance to a little while ago, but they said no because Jerusalem wasn't in the deal. They turn it down when Israel tries to make peace, and then complain that they aren't being treated fairly.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

We are starting to agree, but theocracy is a terrible idea no matter who's religion is in question. The Palestinian mandate used to very liberal and cosmopolitain, but they have grown more extreme due to their circumstances.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Why is theocracy always a bad idea?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

America should stop being the world's "police man", mind its own business (namely its failing economy, which many countries rely on) and leave people to sort out their issues by themselves, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

To a certain extent. I think that they should become more like Canada.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I THINK WE SHOULD CONQUER CANADA. MERICA!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

most americans agree with you haha

by Anonymous 12 years ago

i think isreal should allow palestine its freedom?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I say America leaves other countries to their own business, and work on our economy. My family, personally, has gone from high middle class to low middle class within the past four years. Used to we could afford something good. Now we're lucky if we can keep the gas, water, electric and phones on. Don't get me wrong, I like that America helps other countries.(If they're really helping) but I'd prefer if we work on our own problems instead of thinking "Oh, everythings great!".. -Sigh- A year and a half left before I can start voting on things.

by Anonymous 12 years ago