-279 If you're in favor of gay marriage, it only makes sense to also be in favor of polygamy, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Think about it. Why are you a supporter of gay marriage? Because the government has no right to regulate who you can and can't marry, because if people are in love it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. Why don't those reasons also apply to polygamy?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

People can get hurt in polygamist relationships. Consider the lives of all their children.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If people had open minds about polygamy, the lives of the children would be just fine.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Typically, when there are many children they get ignored and neglected. The oldest children usually have to raise the young ones themselves. Often girls get raped and are forced to marry at a young age. And I really don't know what the women are in it for.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Where are you talking about?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It happens in many places (mostly Utah). It's not always like that, but it does happen a lot.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I've never heard of rape and abuse associated with polygamy. But okay, then point taken.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't know if it's as common anymore, but in the big sects I'm sure it still happens. I've researched polygamy on my own and seen many things on TV about it. It doesn't happen in every polygamist family, and rape happens in other communities too. Naturally it happens in the polygamist community.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yeah Laughing_spork is right. In many polygamist societies pedophilia, incest, and various types of abuse have all been documented. Child brides are common. Personally I'm of the opinion that it's do to the cult-like mindset of these societies, not polygamy itself. However, given that everyone involved are consenting adults that love each other, I think both polygamy and polyandry should be allowed. (Somehow people forget about polyandry.) As long as they're happy and no one is getting hurt, it really is nobody's business.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

In so few cases is a serious argument started with, "Yeah Laughing_spork is right."

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Polyandry? What if the woman gets pregnant? It's too much trouble doing DNA tests to figure out whose kid is this.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Wait, wait, wait. Is that seriously your only objection?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Lol, for polyandry, yes. I'm okay with polygamy though.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Too much trouble for whom? They know what they're getting into.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I agree with you in a theoretical sense but in reality, allowing more than two people to be in the same marriage contract would create a ton legal problems with taxes, home ownership, insurance, ect. Legalizing polygamy might work but only if we limited it to two or three spouses. Otherwise, me and the 56 people who married me to get American citizenship would find ways to exploit the tax code.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The relationships themselves aren't illegal, like Hugh Hefner can have as many girlfriends as he wants and even make a show about it, while his legal wife lived next door to him. The problem is that if someone is legally married to more than one person they can abuse tax laws and welfare etc... Another problem is that polygamous communities often break the law in other ways, such as not sending their kids to school, "marrying" off children below the age of consent and underage sex, and domestic abuse is common. Gay marriage is more comparable to straight marriage than polygamy, because it's two consenting adults.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well then we just need to more tightly control polygamous communities so that things like that don't happen. Let them marry as many people as they want, but regulate the other stuff,

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think that to believe one should be ok means you must also believe the other should. As people have said before, very little would need to be legally changed to allow for same-sex marriage, but several laws would need to be changed to allow for polygamy and polyandry. However, I believe that given all parties are consenting adults, I think polygamy and polyandry marriages should be legal. Also, the people talking about the sects are talking about something entirely different from polygamy and polyandry. These sects where the rape and abuse happen don't happen because everyone there is a polygamist. This shit happens because those people are generally religious extremists and nut bags.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If it's nice and they can control themselves and no abuse happens then I'm okay with it ( like on sister wives). But if it's like warren jeffs and his cult following then I'm against it. I think polyandry is okay when keep under watchful eye too but I don't see how homosexuals and polygamy/polyandry relates?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Read the first comment on this post. And of course Warren Jeffs type of polygamy shouldn't be allowed, that wasn't even consensual.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, I read the first comment. I still don't understand your POV. I meant that regular polygamy can get that out of control. If they don't know any better than marrying at a young age then that's all they're going to do.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well the law would still forbid marriage that young. And polygamy could be legalized on a probationary period, and they could be inspected bi-weekly, or something like that.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

true, true

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This is such a bad arguement. Almost stupid. Marriage is about Love while this idea of Polygamy is about Lust! Nothing good ever came out of lust. They are in no way equivalent, and will never be good comparisons to each other Some people get them mixed up but the wiser ones know better.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

So it's not possible to love more than one person? And want to be in a relationship with all of then?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Them*

by Anonymous 12 years ago

See that's just being selfish and lustful. Gotta have them all aye?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

See, I totally disagree with your reasoning even if I agree with the way you voted. I've heard that //exact// same argument used against gay marriage -- 'Oh, it's about lust, not love! Two men can't really love each other!' And you're saying 'Three people can't really love each other!' My question is, how would you know? It's the same thing I argue with those against gay marriage -- unless you're gay yourself (or in your case, polygamous) it's not fair for you to judge whether what they feel is real.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I just don't think its fair having to share affection that is meant to be all yours or not yours at all. Some say having it halfway is better than not having it at all but in this case, I believe it's All or Nothing.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But that might not be the way they think in a polygamous society. Your personal preference may be to have only one partner but that doesn't mean everyone feels the same. It's not fair for you to try to dictate what people feel just because you don't agree, or to try to state with certainty what people feel if you've never experienced what they have. 'Cause that's exactly what many people against gay marriage do. They make assumptions such as 'what they feel isn't really love.'

by Anonymous 12 years ago

My idea of love revolves around doing what's best for the other person and giving them what they deserve. And this applies to all kinds of love that I know. So I will always try and reason for fairness. If it's not fair, then it's not what they deserve. I've seen a lot of polygamist families (from travelling to some Muslim countries in Asia. In fact, my uncle practises this too) and truth be told, they just don't feel as peaceful and as happy as those practising monogamy. You'd always feel tension between the wives, on whose child is most preferred; there's always competition. I don't see how people can be genuinely happy in a polygamous society but I see how the approval of gay marriage can. I agree with you though, that I have no right to dictate what people feel cause I am not in their shoe after all.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Honestly, I don't much favour the idea of polygamous societies either. I just try not to judge feelings about something I haven't personally experienced. In a more practical sense, I also dislike the idea of polygamy 'cause of the uncertain economical issues that would arise and if, like several people have mentioned, it is proved that more abuse/incest/minor marriages take place in polygamous societies. On the other hand, I've heard stories about immigrants who expect the promised 'freedom of religion' in America and then are told they can't practice their religious ideals of polygamy. That doesn't seem fair, either. So...it's still a bit uncertain for me. I think legalizing gay marriage is enough to strive for at the moment~

by Anonymous 12 years ago

...and if you're in favor of polygamy, why not get rid of some other sexual guidelines. It only makes sense to be in favor of pedophilia. {Look, I know that seems really extreme, but if you're using the logic "well if they love each other" or "the government has no right to tell you who you can and cannot marry/love/be in a relationship with," you have to use it all across the board.}

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Pedophilia involves the victimizing of children. We are talking about consenting adults here.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I disagree with this post. Those concepts are two opposite things. You can't even compare them. It is a little rude too..

by Anonymous 12 years ago

My thoughts exactly. Quite a stupid analogy.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think if everyone involved are consenting adults, it should be allowed. Bringing up child marriages and rape is unfair, because that has to do with the society, not the idea of marrying multiple people. It's definitely not impossible to be truly in love with more than one person, just like it's not impossible to be in love with someone of the same gender. There's lots of situations where couples are perfectly okay and accepting of their significant other having an affair, is it right they should have to hide it because it's not legal?

by Anonymous 12 years ago