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• Post Of The Day on Nov 10th 2011

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How weird would it be to have another way to measure time? For example, something based on tens called chronos, with 100 chronos in a day, each broken into 100 mikros. Imagine the confusion: "What time is it over there?" "Fifty sixty-nine." "...what?" "Oh, sorry, I'm using chronos, not hours. It's 12:10." amirite?

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I put too much work into this

Rocky OP

I put too much work into this

In response to “I put too much work into this (sad)”

I put too much work into this:

In response to “I put too much work into this: ”

We have the coolest admin ever.

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I gotta get a watch with that on it.

In response to “You made this work off of our system clock on...”

Yes it would, because it just translates the time to another system.

In response to “Yes it would, because it just translates the...”

But you could never make this the "official" time telling method if it required a different time telling method to function. For example you wouldn't find a "rockclock" watch that couldn't tell time in hours.

In response to “But you could never make this the...”

This is true.

You could build a physical clock to make it work though. In the same way normal clocks work, you have something which oscillates at a certain frequency then work out how many pulses that generates per Val or whatever.
Your computer has circuitry that does something to that to measure normal time. I could be wrong because I only know basic stuff in this area. But without hardware to count in 'Rock Time', the only possible way to do it is to use software that works from normal time.

In response to “This is true. You could build a physical...”

Oh, ok. I'm a computer science major but I'm still just a beginner so I didn't realize the clocks on our computer were run from hardware, not software.

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I live in that time zone :D

In response to “I put too much work into this (sad)”

I want this to be how we tell time.

WideAwake

I think it brilliant!

In response to “I think it brilliant!”

You know what else is brilliant? Proper grammar.

In response to “You know what else is brilliant? Proper grammar.”

You don't have to a jerk about it

Omg I did the math so wrong. 12:10pm in chronos would be about 50 chronos and 69.4 mikros. If I add another denomination of mikros in 100, it would be 69 mikros and 40 of those. But now I'm rambling.

In response to “Omg I did the math so wrong. 12:10pm in...”

Hehehheheheheh 69

amiritesucksnow

This is probably how people felt when the metric system first started getting popular.

In response to “This is probably how people felt when the...”

I should make a clock that measures in chronos and just slowly integrate it into society.

In response to “I should make a clock that measures in...”

Do it. I've always thought time should be measured based on tens

In response to “Do it. I've always thought time should be...”

But idk how I'd make such a clock :(

In response to “But idk how I'd make such a clock :(”

Get someone to write a program and hook it up to a display screen? I'm probably over simplifying it by a lot.

In response to “Get someone to write a program and hook it up...”

I don't think anyone would write a program for me (cry2)

In response to “I don't think anyone would write a program...”

The problem I can think of is the time zones. The world is 24 time zones so instead of simply adding a number to one side of the clock you'd have to add numbers to both sides of the clock, making it more confusing.

In response to “I don't think anyone would write a program...”

If I knew how, and Anthony's gloriousness didn't beat me to it, I would. Mostly because this system makes so much more sense. And for the glory.

In response to “But idk how I'd make such a clock :(”

Analog. Just paint over the numbers

In response to “I should make a clock that measures in...”

Chronos? The god of time? Dude, that makes way too much sense. You should troll the world and call it something nonsensical like a bananahead. Or a trolkinonigan. Or a favvkes. Whoa, favvkes has a nice ring to it.

In response to “I should make a clock that measures in...”

This is the God Chronos:

O.O

In response to “This is the God Chronos: http://ctrlv.in/45021 O.O”

That's almost as sexy as the RockClock up there.

In response to “This is the God Chronos: http://ctrlv.in/45021 O.O”

THAT'S SATURN YOU FOOL. </art geek>

In response to “THAT'S SATURN YOU FOOL. </art geek>”

Saturn is the Roman Chronos, you fool

In response to “Saturn is the Roman Chronos, you fool”

Herp derp that's from Francisco Goya's painting Saturn Devouring his Children. And I am aware that Saturn is Cronos' Roman forn

In response to “Herp derp that's from Francisco Goya's...”

I meant they're the same deity, in the same way that SemiColin and your real name (Colin?) refer to the same person, so you can't scold someone for calling him by his other name.

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"Meet me at the movie at 10:31 Chronos time"

"What the ****?"

In response to “"Meet me at the movie at 10:31 Chronos...”

2:28am is a weird time for a movie

In response to “This is probably how people felt when the...”

Don't you mean the customary system? The metric system has been around forever.

In response to “Don't you mean the customary system? The...”

I meant when the metric system first started replacing the Imperial system in most European countries (which I think was sometime during the 1970s).

AllyKat

How would it be weird? We'd get used to it, easily.

Isn't the sexagesimal system complicated and weird using that same logic? I guess the reply to that is that we're used to it, which brings back my point.

In response to “How would it be weird? We'd get used to it...”

It would be weird to have more than one is what I meant, because of the confusion.

In response to “It would be weird to have more than one is...”

Again, we'd get used to it and it would become routine. We have the 24 hour clocks and the 12 hour clocks, we got used to them and can understand both. We have dd-mm-yyyy, mm-dd-yyyy and yyyy-mm-dd formats and we're used to all of them working fine.

In response to “Again, we'd get used to it and it would...”

Don't be that guy.

What guy?

In response to “What guy?”

The "how would that be weird? we wouldn't know better, we'd be used to it, blah blah, etc." guy.

In response to “The "how would that be weird? we wouldn't...”

Ah, sorry for aplying logic and previous real life examples to this situation.

In response to “Ah, sorry for aplying logic and previous real...”

Don't throw sarcasm at me.

It's annoying that for almost every hypothetical post, someone uses the same (irrelevant) argument.

In response to “Don't throw sarcasm at me. It's annoying...”

Not every post, just posts like these. Anyway, you're attacking ME instead of the argument I said—great example of ad hominem.

In response to “Not every post, just posts like these...”

I said "almost every hypothetical post," not "every post." And fine, I'll attack your argument:

It's irrelevant that we would be "used to it" if that were the case, because the fact is it's not the case, and from where we stand (in the world as we know it, with sexagesimal time), it does seem weird because it is not what we know.

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It wouldn't work anyway. How many chronos would be one week, and if we had 10 chronos in one week (because everything would be based on 10) How many days of weekend would we have? Choosing too much would impact the economy negatively and too little would overstress people. I like overthinking things :)

In response to “It wouldn't work anyway. How many chronos...”

It's still 100 chronos per rotation of the earth (day), so a year would still be based on the orbit around the sun, so 365 days, which would be 36,500 chronos. Really, the lengths of the months could be kept the same if we wanted, because if we tried to divide a year into 10, each month would become 36.5 days, which is weird, so the lengths of months are the same, the lengths of weeks are the same. One week would then be 700 chronos.

In response to “It's still 100 chronos per rotation of the...”

Theoretically, if we wanted to continue the mulitples of ten, ten months in a year would mean alternating months of 36 and 37 days, just like our current months alternate 29, 30, and 31 days. Then we could change weeks into being 10 days too, so that there are almost four weeks in a month and 1000 chronos in a week. The weeks do not have to match the month length exactly. The only thing is that our current months are roughly based off the lunar cycle, so the new system would not match as well. And I'm going way too much into this...

In response to “I said "almost every hypothetical...”

No, it's not irrelevant, in fact.

People used to think that the fact that the world is not flat is weird; people used to think that the fact that the Americas exist is weird; people used to think that the fact that there was time and a sexagesimal code was weird; people used to think that the fact that things fall for a reason was weird...

Now it's not.

After a while of this time system of yours was put into the mainstream masses, and in the hypotheical case it was even accepted as one and by the majority, people would accept it and no one would think it's "weird" when everyone understands it and is used to it.

In response to “No, it's not irrelevant, in fact. People...”

Yes, but my post isn't stating, in essence, "If this was how things were, it would be weird." It's stating, more accurately, "It's weird to imagine another way to measure time, amirite?"

In response to “Again, we'd get used to it and it would...”

24 hour clocks and 12 hour clocks still have 24 hours in a day, 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute. Same with the dates that use the same measurements of time, but just present them in a different order

Funnyplants

Why is there a "What if ____" group and a Hypotheticals group? What's the difference?

In response to “Why is there a "What if ____" group...”

Idk man. I made the Hypotheticals group though.

Rocky OP

Too...much...math...
My brain is too retarded to comprehend.

Shugah

Unrelated, but I don't know where else to ask: Does anyone else think the amirite? guy's beard makes him look like The Silence?

Ha,YES.

In response to “Unrelated, but I don't know where else to...”

me 5 seconds ago: What beard?
me now: Holy crap! He has a beard. Impressive.

In response to “me 5 seconds ago: What beard? me now: Holy...”

it's only 9 days into November. Must be a fake

In response to “it's only 9 days into November. Must be a...”

But in the UK it's 10 days into November making it much more plausible.

In response to “Unrelated, but I don't know where else to...”

Give him a yamaka and peyes, and he would look like a Hiscidic Jew.

DandyLion

I'm in favor of metric time. I freak people out enough at my school b/c I use metric, not imperial.

__________

In b4 big debate about whether this is plausable or not

Too late.

!!!!!!!!!!

Nice cover.

KirstenAnn

...has there seriously been no jokes about how you used sixty nine?

I am disappoint.
Oh well.

LOL ROCKY I SEE HOW YOU SUBLIMINALLY USED 69 SO WE WANNA GO OUT AND HAVE **** I SEE WUT U DID

In response to “has there seriously been no jokes about...”

PFFT. I actually chose 12:10 at random and when I translated it, it turned into that :\$

Now that I think about it, we should figure out what 69:69:69 is in standard time :o

In response to “PFFT. I actually chose 12:10 at random and...”

Approximately 4:44 p.m., or 16:44 army time.

In response to “Approximately 4:44 p.m., or 16:44 army time.”

Your calculations are correct. I gave up after I got 16 hours, 43.536 mins," etc.

Rocky OP

This would be so much easier when doing dimensional analysis.

Inmate_24601

Rainbow Dash can clear the sky in 116 vals flat.

In response to “Rainbow Dash can clear the sky in 116 vals flat.”

And I said, "Oatmeal, are you crazy?"

She'll never leave Ponyville hanging.

OnePenguin

okay i come back 5 minutes later and you guys are already having a debate

budgerigar42

Apparently, and this was only very briefly mentioned in Physics class, at one point scientists attempted to convert time that would work better with the metric system of measurement...but apparently people couldn't handle it at all.

Either way, time, metres, gravitational constants, it's all made up anyways.

In response to “Apparently, and this was only very briefly...”

Whoa whoa. Time isn't made up, just the ways we measure it.

In response to “Whoa whoa. Time isn't made up, just the ways...”

Haha yeah you're right. But when people identify time as seconds, hours, days, etc...and those are just ways of measuring it...

yes time exists-- but as you said, the ways we measure it are made up

Things longer than Kim Kardashian's marriage: 8000 chronos.

In response to “Things longer than Kim Kardashian's marriage:...”

Question: should 8000 chronos be 8 kilochronos...?

In the same vein, one day would be a hectochronos.

In response to “Question: should 8000 chronos be 8...”

Since you're a gay guy, it should be called homochronos.

In response to “Since you're a gay guy, it should be called...”

Since that made no sense, you should be shut the **** up.

Rocky OP

http://www.blakeohare.com/calendar/explain/
Scroll down to the section on time. This post reminded me of that.

BlacklightsAndQueens

Wow this is alittle mind boggleing but good concept... And the people who did all the math up there have nooo lives

In response to “Wow this is alittle mind boggleing but good...”

ARE YOU SAYING I HAVE NO LIFE?!

Because...

Anyone could've told you that :(

In response to “ARE YOU SAYING I HAVE NO...”

Ahaha yes ... Math must fill that void you have in your life most people fill with love... And friendship....

In response to “Ahaha yes ... Math must fill that void you...”

Don't be ridiculous.

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To late.... Rocky a young boy of twelve was sitting home alone when he realized he really had no one in his life... He was contemplating suicide when he grabbed pills and threw them down on the counter... He went to put them in him mouth but then decided to count them... He spent all night crying and counting things around his house... Ceiling tiles... Doors...windows... And cabinets... Until finally he fell into a deep dreamless sleep... He awoke the next morning and realized he was a new boy... He realized that he really didn't need any friends or family all he needed was math... He then spent the rest of his life contemplating math related topics no one could never imagined could be contemplated before this time

In response to “To late.... Rocky a young boy of twelve was...”

I think you're the one who needs help.

Wow.. I am hurt

In response to “Wow.. I am hurt”

There, there. In a few chronos' time, the wound will heal.

In response to “There, there. In a few chronos' time, the...”

*sniffle* Thank's Rocky

Ever imagine*

Panda_monium

We should start using this as the official time of amirite instead of BST.

In response to “We should start using this as the official...”

Back to GMT now the clocks went back bro ;)

In response to “Back to GMT now the clocks went back bro ;)”

Please don't call me bro, I don't like it.

Cool story, bro.

Come at me bro.

Hot ;)

Rocky OP

All this math shit went straight over my head, but I am 100% determined to keep reading and figure it out so I can sound smart when I mention this to someone. They will be like "dayyuumm you a smart cookie" and I'll be like "hell yea ****" ...actually I'd sound less smart if i say that so I'll just keep with "why yes, yes sir/ma'am I am. Thank you."

Anonymous

Damn now that I understand this time I will sub-consciously say this in real life

Davidplante

hmmm.....army time= kind of a different system of time than one used....

alittleannoyed

Or instead of measuring long periods of time in months(28-31 days) we measured them in Kardashians(72 days)

In response to “What about time zones?”

Have ten time zones?

In response to “Have ten time zones?”

I want to see how it would work if we tried for a difference of 1 chrono between time zones. I'll use vals for the calculation as they are more specific, so 10,000 vals difference in time zone is the goal. 1 day = 1,000,000 vals. 1° = 1/360 day = 25,000/9 vals.

Difference in degrees for 1 chronos:
10,000 / (25,000/9) = 3.6°

360/3.6 = 100 time zones

This may be a little much, so I guess 10 time zones would work with a difference of 10 chronos when moving between them. I'm not sure how much the sun's position will vary between the time zones at just 10, so we could try 20 so it's closer to the current number, and that would then be a difference of 5 chronos between the time zones, or we could go for 25 zones which would yield 4 chronos change between zones. This may be the best as the current number of time zones is 24. If I knew how to calculate sun's position, I would to try and get within the current specifications for that (no more than 1/24° change), but I don't, so I won't.

Summary:
10 time zones: change of 10 chronos
100 time zones: change of 1 chrono
20 time zones: change of 5 chronos
25 time zones: change of 4 chronos

Le whaatt?!?!!?

In response to “I want to see how it would work if we tried...”

I almost said 25, but let's go with 20, because then there can be 10 time zones on each half of the earth.

The difference of 5 chronos between each sounds like a lot, but really it's only about 1 hr 13 mins.

Rocky OP

Everytime I read 'chronos' I think of the password from 'The Incredibles' ('kronos') and my brain won't focus on the rest of the post...

omg so much lol

Bre

Fun fact: 11:11 in chronos is approximately 2:45am standard time.

Rocky OP

WHAT?! math.... No wonder I have no idea what I just read.

What exists?

chronos

It is now!

In response to “It is now!”

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!

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