+163 A teacher having consensual sex with a student that is 16+ years old is a victimless crime, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

if an 18 year old student has sex with a teacher can they still get in trouble?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think so, just because it's a conflict of interests.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

My thoughts exactly. Plus humans have a strong desire to please authority figures, which is why most places say young teens can't consent to sex with an adult at all, let alone a teacher.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

(ilikefurrywolves4815):I don't think it's illegal, but they will lose their job if they do.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Shouldn't necessarily be a crime, but grade could be inflated of student gives teacher "oral exam," so the teacher should get reprimanded.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's illegal in Denmark because the teacher is in a so called trusted position. Would be the same with a sports coach etc. It's not an equal relationship.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That still doesn't make the student a victim.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They are taking advantage of a subordinate. There is a hierarchy.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It isn't taking advantage if the student wants to do it and is doing it only because they want to. No grades involved.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

What if it was an older family friend or a police officer?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It doesn't matter you say grades aren't involved, they will be affected by it. Students and teachers shouldn't have that sort of relationship.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Position of power. It should be illegal in high school, but in college I don't think they should go to jail over it, But, it should not be condoned.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Thats a conflict of interests, which still doesn't make the student a victim.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

So long as they are of legal consenting age then it is victimless. The definition of what is a "victim" will pretty much always be set by law. So if the student is under age then in the eyes of the law it is statutory rape, pretty cut and dry. If they are legally old enough to consent then it's legal but can contradict the terms of the teachers employment and get them fired. So the student isn't a victim in the eyes of the law so long as they're old enough, it's just the teacher who can face punishment because they knew before they began teaching that they shouldn't be in a relationship with students because it can effect the atmosphere in which other students are trying to learn. Imo, as long as they're both old enough (legally) then it's no ones business, but if the student is under age then it bring up all the old cliche problems that are attributed to young relationships and parents get worried about their childs well being. Especially if the relationship ends badly, then the kid is most likely stuck in the class with that teacher and then parents have to get involved anyway to move the child to a new class if there are problem arising from that situation.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The parents of the child... They're the only people ever complaining about it.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No, it's not a victimless crime. Just because at 16 a woman or man knows about sex, and could have even had sex before doesn't make it victimless. Even at 16 you have an immediate trust in teachers; that they won't do anything bad. And you could feel pressured to doing something you wouldn't want to do. What is wrong with people that they think this okay? Why would a 23+ something year old want to have sex with a 16 year old? That's disgusting.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No it isn't. You would too, if you were 23. You only think it's disgusting because that's what the law says. And when I say consensual, I mean the student wants to do it. No pressure. In my opinion, having consensual sex with a student is not "bad". If the student wants it and is mature enough to make such a decision, why are they considered a victim? This is disregarding the whole thing about the teacher being in a position of power and it being a conflict of interests.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The fact of the matter is people TRUST a person in power to do the right thing. And they are abusing that power by manipulating a student into consent. There are tons of cases where the student was "consensual" until you realize that the term consent is too broad and that she felt pressured to do it since it was her teacher. (or he felt pressured to do it) And it is disgusting for a 23 year old to want to have sex with a 16 year old. I'm 21 and I would never want to have sex with anybody under 18. To me that's disturbing, the rate of maturity you go through after 18 sky rockets, and there is a vast difference of maturity between 16 and 23, regardless of how much you want to deny it. And I imagine you're not over the age of 18 if you can't realize that fact.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It depends on the person. The relationship between age and maturity, I mean. And okay, let's imagine that there is absolutely no pressure in this situation. The student approaches the teacher and seduces them purely because they want to, with no thought to grades or anything like that. Just raw, sexual attraction. Is it still wrong on the teacher's part?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If the student is in any of their classes and the student is under age 18, then yes.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't think that it should be considered a crime if it was consensual. As long as it's not during school hours, consensual, and they are of age. It should be nobodies business of what they do in their personal lives.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Its not completely black and white like that, but more time than not, you are correct

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Yes, it's a "victimless" crime, in the sense that there is no victim. But it is not proper for a teacher to have such relations with a student. Thus, it should not result in criminal charges for either one involved. However, the teacher should be fired.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

There is a "probable" victim, but yes, surely in some portion of the cases, there is no victim. Let's compare it to a burglary. If the burglar doesn't end up breaking or stealing anything, it's a victimless crime. Perhaps not the best example but I hope it serves my point.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Gotta get my A's somehow!

by Anonymous 12 years ago