+191 I am a black female applying to Stanford, Princeton, and Brown University. When I tell people of this, their first comment is "You know you have to have excellent grades, right?" This can be seen as a bit insulting, amirite?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

One has nothing to do with the other

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's a little arrogant to insinuate that you don't know you need excellent grades, but being black could be used to your advantage with scholarships for being a minority.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Also those schools are really difficult to get into like really difficult.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No worries theres affirmative action youll get in easily

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It can be taken offensively, but I don't see why you should see it like that. My friend is a studious and dedicated white girl, but people always say the same statement about grades to her too when she says that she wants to go to Harvard. It's not about race. It's about the sheer fact that Ivy League schools generally require excellent grades.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It can be taken that way I guess. But if anyone told me they wanted to go to an Ivy League school, I'd say the same thing regardless of the colour of their skin.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That is insulting! They show know you'll probably get a full scholarship for being black.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

But.... you do need excellent grades.... That's a fact, not an insult.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It'd be an insult if they said, dont bother studying those colleges need all the diversity they can get, you'll definitely get in. Jeez those schools are ivy league no shit you have to have good grades to get in...kinda doubting if you will though with a post like this.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

And the reason your food was burnt at the restaurant is because you're black, right?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Out of curiosity, what are your grades/test scores?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

2250 SAT 35 ACT 4.0 unweighted GPA with all gifted and AP courses

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Well if that's true then that's very impressive, nice job! Good luck with your college search. Please excuse my incredulity, but it's very easy to lie over the internet.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I understand. And there's no way I can prove anything to you so I must leave you to your own judgment.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I don't understand why you added that you are a black female... Anyway, I don't see how it's insulting; you need excellent grades to get into those colleges.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They say it because it is true. I'll warn you right now that they are looking for more than just valedictorians with great SAT/ACT scores. Being black might help you, although being female doesn't do much. They also look at your major/concentration, so try to find out which ones they accept a lot of people for (you can always change your major later). Oh and on the essays, make sure you do one of two things: either 1.) have a significant struggle that you have overcome, such as some form of discrimination (not necessarily racism) or other hardship, or 2.) be very direct and open about just how much you want to go to their school. I'm talking having the essay say "I want to go to your school because I'm a worthy investment of your time and money" etc. Or, you know, be able to pay full tuition without any aid, and have decent grades. That usually works too.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Its insulting. Everyone knows you need excellent grades + more to get in. To imply that you didn't even know that, is insulting/condescending.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I think under some contexts it would be insulting. Like if you told them and they were in awe, as if you shouldn't even be applying there. But if you told me this I would assume that you had the grades to get in and just weren't applying for the hell of it, so I can see where you're coming from.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I do think this can be taken as an insult because everybody knows you need good grades to get into those schools, that's obvious so it's not exactly just stating a fact. By making that statement, it can almost come across as mocking or something, like "do you really think you're going to get in?".

by Anonymous 12 years ago