+209 If you had concrete proof that there was no heaven and no hell, it would //not// change your definition of //right and wrong//, and it would not change your behavior toward others. Amirite?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

There are some things that would change, but nothing major like "I'm going to start killing people!" or anything like that

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Why?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

While that's a very intelligent question, I would request a little more specificity

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Well, what change in factors would there be? Is it that the notion of Heaven/Hell make you act kind for fear of punishment?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Absolutely. There are many things that I would do if they didn't conflict with my religious views. Drinking (in moderation), for example, always sounds like a ton of fun, however I believe it to harm judgement, have negative health effects, etc

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Oh, I understand. Thanks, that actually made more sense than I anticipated, I'm glad I asked

by Anonymous 11 years ago

glad to hear you aren't going to kill anyone.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

Nothing would change, because I already believe that heaven and hell is right here on earth, and not some place in the sky or under the ground.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

The invention of religion (as in whether or not christianity is true, it still would have been created at some point) doesn't really create or define what is right and what is wrong, so much as it just takes humans' instinctual knowledge of good and bad and orders it into a pretty, bullet point format.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Really? Wouldn't you agree that our backgrounds, families, and circumstances all affect what our weltanschuung (worldview.. sorry, have always wanted to use that word) is and ultimately our moral compass. By the logic you have just presented every man can do what is right in its own eyes. That means that there was nothing wrong with that man killing all those precious little children in December; or Hitler's attempt to annihilate millions of Jews, Africans, the handicapped, and any others he did not believe were the fittest to survive, or the rape of young girls, or the "honour" killing of woman. If the definition of right and wrong is simply "humans instinctual knowledge of good and bad" well, we end up with the world as it is today. The more we remove the Biblical foundations that many of our countries have been based upon and replace them with Marxism, rationalism, romanticism, and all the other isms that we have pulled out of our itty-bitty brains, the worse our society will become, and we will ultimately destroy ourselves.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

There would still be people who believe in a heaven and a hell, regardless of the concreteness of the proof, right? And these people would still need to be laughed at, right? So no, I would not change my behavior.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

They need to be laughed at? Is //that// part of your moral code too?

by Anonymous 7 years ago

You have just as much proof that Hell doesn't exist, as a Christian has that it does exist.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

true

by Anonymous 8 years ago

i would treat people better.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

Why? How?

by Anonymous 8 years ago

how would take to long to write down but why is easier to explain. the law of supply and demand and the principal on uncertain quantity. knowing that their is an exact finite amount of life makes it more valuable.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

not one whit !

by Anonymous 8 years ago

My mnoral structure isn't built on any set of rules set down by a greater power, but by understanding what does and does not hurt me - therefore what does and does not hurt others. stick to being guided by empathy and you'll do just fine.

by Anonymous 8 years ago

I have no proof it exists so I just live as good a life as I can. The bible isn't the reason i do anything.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

It definitely wouldn't. I do not do things to "Earn" Heaven or "avoid" Hell. However, I am not sure how long I'd wanna live knowing I am just headed for eternal oblivion.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

My behavior would not change one bit because I do not live life based on a heaven or hell. Religious books, The Bible, Quoran, etc are subject to interpretation and that is the bad part. An eye for an eye or turn the other cheek??? I do think the the ten commandments are pretty good rules though.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

Agree. I believe in reincarnation.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

Science is anything that can be measured. Spirit is anything that can not be measured. Science is powered by logic and evidence. Spirit is powered by believing and wisdom. No connection. Stop trying to prove or disprove spiritual things with science.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

OK

by Anonymous 7 years ago

There is no "natural goodness" which becomes the basis of a "natural morality" within a "natural theology." "There is none good, no not one" (Rom. 3:12). "No one is good, except God alone" (Luke 18:19). When mankind thinks that he can know "good" and define "good" from his own perspective alone, he ends up calling "evil good, and good evil" (Isa. 5:20), and Isaiah pronounces a woe upon those who are thus "wise in their own eyes, and clever in their own sight." (Isa. 5:21).

by Anonymous 7 years ago

Glad you have something to comfort your mind

by Anonymous 7 years ago

I don't believe you Vic. You are constantly trying to instigate believers to dis-belief. Satan's work.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

I don't want you to disbelieve, I want you to understand that morality does not require a god. Then you might be dissuaded of your misbelief that godless means evil.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

Of course that's what you want me to 'understand'. That's what Satan would want me to understand! It's not true of course. Throughout history, as belief in God declined so to the morality of the culture declined. People left to their own devices decay morally.

by Anonymous 7 years ago

There will always be consequences for our actions as long as we're alive.

by Anonymous 7 years ago