Nobody can possibly know. Either scenario is possible.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I downvoted at first but then what Michael said makes sense too still I was hoping the verdict would come back guilty based on how much I knew about the case but as it's been said I can't possibly know for sure -shrugs-

by Anonymous 10 years ago

He shot in self defense

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I like to think that there's a difference between being innocent and not guilty. George Zimmerman may not be guilty in the eyes of the law because of poor evidence and prosecution, but he definitely still killed someone. Simply based on that one fact, I don't consider him to be an innocent man.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

who the hell is he?

by Anonymous 10 years ago

Lucky for him Amirite isn't the jury of his peers...

by Anonymous 10 years ago

None of us can really know if he killed in self-defense or not, but I don't believe his life was in danger. I could point out his lies from my couch, but in my mind I knew he was going to be found not guilty. But, he'll probably get his one day.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

Yes, his lies which were backed up by witnesses and forensics.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

Didn't the witnesses have at least slightly different views of what happened? that's the thing about witnesses what they report is subjective and what they report sometimes changes because our memories aren't constant he was let off because that's what the jurors on that case believed (based off of poor evidence and whatnot) no? so it's not that he really is innocent maybe he is or maybe he isn't it's that there wasn't sufficient evidence correct me if I'm wrong just because there wasn't good evidence does not mean a person is innocent there are plenty of people who have gotten away with something even if they really were guilty

by Anonymous 10 years ago

At first I thought you were gonna use the witnessing having different views of what happened to support him being guilty. But then I read the rest and remembered you're into psychology. And you're right about all of that. Just because someone isn't found guilty doesn't mean they were innocent. I think in courts they don't call it "innocent vs. guilty" but "guilty vs. not guilty." I personally think it's better to let someone walk away because you didn't have enough evidence to convict than it is to convict without sufficient evidence.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

on the other side there have been times where there was sufficient evidence that someone committed a crime but in reality, this someone was truly innocent it's crummy but there's only so much error that we can eliminate even with advancing technology, policies, etc. I agree with letting someone go when there isn't sufficient evidence it's fairer than keeping the person jailed and yeah I'm very into psych I might even babble on and on about it except that some find it boring I'm majoring in it with a minor in business I wanna become an industrial organizational psychologist I haven't decided for sure what to specialize in but right now I'm interested in improving the workplace and workplace equality

by Anonymous 10 years ago

You can babble about psychology to me c: I love that shit.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I could find holes in the story and from what the witnesses have said. But, like I said, we can't know for sure what happened. The only people who knows what went down is Trayvon and Zimmerman, and one is unable to tell his side of the story due to him being dead.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

@rilara You can look at the case many ways and no one will know what really happened but I don't think it's fair that African Americans busted out the black card on it.... If the kid was such a good kid he could've ran away or just turned around and say hey man I live around the block I'm not causing trouble... But he didn't he chose to fight Zimmerman when push comes to shove my life is more important than yours... Zimmerman isn't right for what he did but I think it's justified by the situation he was in

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I don't know whether or not Trayvon was a good kid or not, but I do have to say that he was just a teenager. As a teenager, I can admit, we do really stupid things sometimes. That doesn't mean that we deserve to die. I'm going to have to use my brother as an example. From about 16-19, he pretty much acted like an idiot. He sold drugs (and probably took them as well) lied to my mom, and got arrested a couple of times. He barely graduated high school. Based on that, it would be easy to write him off as a thug who deserved everything he got. But now, he's not doing any of that stuff anymore, is on his way to university soon, and admits that he pretty much acted crazy during that time. My point is basically that even though Trayvon isn't blameless, and even though he probably made some regrettable decisions on the day of his death, that doesn't mean that he wasn't a good kid, and that his life would have had no direction. His death is still a loss, and I still believe that Zimmerman isn't innocent, especially since if Zimmerman chose not to follow him, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. And I don't care what people say, racism is still out there for black people, and pretty much every minority. Those that say otherwise are either naive, or lucky enough to not have to witness/experience it firsthand. The reason why you might say that we pulled out the "black card" is because we saw a teenage boy who could have been one of our brothers, and could have been our sons, who was killed, and received no justice. Also two things: I feel like I'm rambling a bit, so I hope what I just wrote makes sense. I noticed that you commented on the post, and not directly to my comment. Under the text of a comment, there is the option to reply to someone's comment. If you don't reply like that, most people won't actually know that you replied to them.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

Ohhh I see I'm new to this lol... I'm glad to hear ur brother is now on a better path! And ur right he didn't deserve to die but we must understand it wasn't just a bullet from no where it was self defense and I believe treyvon was on top And there was enough evidence to prove it... But ur right if he didn't follow him we wouldn't have this convo so Zimmerman isn't innocent and a young kid is dead! Very sad! And I believe in real life justice not justice in the court of law so Zimmerman might be free but life has a funny way of giving people what they deserve! Just look at OJ Simpson!

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I think Adrienne brought up the point of "[busting] out the black card" because of the same circumstance situations, save races reversed, that have gone completely under the radar numerous times, such as the event where three black kids beat a white kid to death in the street for no apparent reason. Also, it was decided that he was on marijuana at the time of his death, which contributed to his paranoia, most likely resulting in the attack in the first place. I'm not condemning Trayvon for his actions, as I think the death of anyone, disregarding serial killers, rapists, etc., is a tragedy, and I'm sure Zimmerman feels the same, and if he had the choice, knowing the outcome of the situation now, I'm sure he would have behaved much differently, but that doesn't mean his actions weren't justified by the scenario he was placed in.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

But the problem with saying that so many similar situations go under the radar is that //most// news stories go under the radar. For example, I'm sure you've heard about the Casey/Caylee Anthony case. That had a lot of news coverage. But if you google "mother kills daughter", or a another generic crime, you will find a large amount of stories like that, most of which went under the radar. In the same way, there are so many racially charged crimes out there that fly under the radar that it's hard to determine why black people would randomly decide to make this case a popular one. Why not another case? In a similar way, why was there a fixation on Caylee Anthony's death, rather than the death of another little girl? I think that it's less of "pulling the race card" and more about black people connecting to a case that many could relate to, and feel wasn't handled well. Of course, some people, especially those who are supposed to be black leaders, did sensationalize the story, and made it more of a civil rights case than it was at the start. However, the way some people responded to the story also showed that maybe it //was// a racial issue. I've noticed that a lot of people saw a 17 year old boy (who honestly looked like a wannabe thug to me) as this dangerous evil man, despite him having no criminal history, compared to an actual grown man like Zimmerman, who has a violent history, but was often seen as completely blameless in the situation, even though history would make him more likely than Trayvon to cause trouble. The only reason why many people choose to believe this portrayal of the two (a portrayal that was actually not propagated by popular media in my experience) would signal to me that there was an underlying racial issue that needed to be addressed and fought against.

by Anonymous 10 years ago

I know what you mean I have seen racism first hand against minorities and it's not pretty people keep saying it's the 21st century and people have changed it's true people have changed since the past but there are certain people that still act and think that way there are segregated schools that exist TODAY it's still a problem no matter how much people wanna claim it isn't some people keep their bigotry to themselves and some are very **bold** and verbal about it the bright side is that those people are much fewer in number than they used to be but when I do hear/see discrimination it's hard to remember that times have changed

by Anonymous 10 years ago

Also where I'm from it doesn't matter what color u are but if u look like ur in the wrong neighborhood even just walking around people will notice and will feel threatened its just life I'm middle eastern so don't think I'm a white person who doesn't know much about people racially classifying me cuz I do I get it but we need to be honest everyone does it I even get freaked out when a white homeless guy asks for change so it can happen to everyone

by Anonymous 10 years ago

skin color does not determine guilt, and the publicity of this case is astonishing

by Anonymous 10 years ago