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The US needs a strong third party. Amirite?

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Not necessarily three.
What it needs a true progressive party.
Sadly the Democratic party has festered, it speaks the right ideals but does not act accordingly.

Throughout American history parties have switched 'sides'. this election took place during a period of overlap. The Clinton Democrats no different than tha main stream Republicans.

The real contest was between Trump and Sanders to provide a true choice to the voters, Clinton refused to let Sanders fight the battle and Trump won.

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Not necessarily three.
What it needs a true progressive party.
Sadly the Democratic party has festered, it speaks the right ideals but does not act accordingly.

Throughout American history parties have switched 'sides'. this election took place during a period of overlap. The Clinton Democrats no different than tha main stream Republicans.

The real contest was between Trump and Sanders to provide a true choice to the voters, Clinton refused to let Sanders fight the battle and Trump won.

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VicZinc VicZinc

In response to “Not necessarily three. What it needs a true...

But why isn't there a third or even fourth party? I would expect that of the US.

The number three is good. It gives people a choice.

Canada has three parties and we're not half as frustrated as the US is....

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Sukiesnow Sukiesnow OP

In response to “But why isn't there a third or even fourth...

OK.

Three it is.

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VicZinc VicZinc

In response to “OK. Three it is.

You caved too quickly VicZinc. So there are probably holes in my argument...ha...

Shouldn't you be at work today?

Damn...now I forgot my next post...see the effect you have on women? Vic.

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Sukiesnow Sukiesnow OP

In response to “You caved too quickly VicZinc. So there are...

The classic argument against a third party is that it means a coalition government. If the majority party does not win, then the remaining two (or more) parties need to compromise in order to maintain a ruling majority. Not that it can't work, because it does in most other countries besides the US.

On the other hand there is something to be said for the success and prosperity of the US. It must be doing something right. Maybe not the two party system, but something is working.

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VicZinc VicZinc

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Thank you. I'll think about it.

Shouldn't you address the fact of your impact on women?

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Sukiesnow Sukiesnow OP

A third party sounds good but I don't think it works in this reality. (As much as I wish it could) We have two parties Liberal and Conservative. The Country is roughly split in half by party affiliation. A third party just splits the vote of those voting Republican "or" Democrat, but not both. In the past, third party candidates have either leaned to the left or the right, and have taken votes from that candidate.
An example could have been this past election. If Bernie had been a third party candidate, he could not of won and Hillary certainly couldn't have won. If Cruz had been a third party candidate, neither Trump nor Cruz could have won.
If we want a "third" party candidate to win we have to do what happened with Trump. (Like him or not) He was a non-republican, non-democrat option

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JustJimColo JustJimColo

We do have a third party. Independent. And you are correct. Listening to trump , his words speak of authoritarian. Not republican.

The independent party never has the financial or political backing that comes with elections. If trump doesnt ruin our system, we nay see a change next time around

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Carla Carla

The key word here is strong. I don't think Trump is the best person to be POTUS. He's just the best we had to choose from at this time. The media (not the press, because true journalism is dead), hate him the President-Elect because he beat them. Former Senator Clinton was not even a consideration. The media felt that they controlled the election (and by proxy, the country) and then this ruffian has the gall to wade in and defeat them. Some people are upset over this turn of events. In an election, someone is always upset at the end, because everyone wants to get their way. People often called the Republicans, "The Party Of NO". These same people have neither said, "no" to their own children nor were they ever told it to themselves as children. The era of participation trophies and time outs is a dark one in American history. It has taken America out of it's world standing and put us in the "outfield of the game", where we do nothing more productive than figuratively standing around picking dandelions. A strong 3rd party would force the big two, predominantly peopled by lifetime politicians, lawyers, or both; to reexamine their goals and perhaps (just perhaps) they'd stop working for "the party" and start working for the people. Something they have not done in several generations (if ever).

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trooper trooper

Hence the word "Strong". As a libertarian I'm very sad with where the party has gone and the people they have put forth to represent them.

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DW2 DW2

People always think they just need a stronger or cleverer or some other bigger and better way to force each other to do something. You are talking about continuous war, even against your own people. Give it up. The war is between central government and free people. The only function of government is to prevent any other group from taking control. The duty of a citizen is to control his government. That is why governments always eventually treat citizens as enemies of the state.

People give lip service to freedom until somebody does something actually free. Then they start saying "Uh oh, we gotta put a stop to that."

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