Shall we discuss the ole Seperation of Church & State?



stop proving the LEFT wrong

Nobody :(

feelings is what count

Nobody :(

fucking hypocrites






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the left is always screaming about the Seperation of church & state knowing full **** well, nowhere in the Constitution is that mentioned they also it's from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote ,one line in one paragraph. they are so quiete when ISLAM is FORCED on the kids in a **** school

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You aren't looking for a discussion, shit stirrer. You're looking for an echo chamber

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TheCensoredBrit TheCensoredBrit


High school assignment had kids simulate Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca
but that is ok rite?

but this! OMFG no **** way can that be tolerated
Court Orders “Unconstitutional” 90-Year-Old Veterans Memorial Torn Down…

what's next you mud-born blackbloods?

the cemetaries?

some Fever Ray is needed to calm me

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer OP

Everyone will fight not talk so I am out of it.

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LorraineTwevlehundredRaineTwelvehundred LorraineTwevlehundredRaineTwelvehundred

In response to “Everyone will fight not talk so I am out of it.

I'd rather the left explain their hypocracy

but you are right
they prefer to deflect (fight) then explain

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer OP

You aren't looking for a discussion, shit stirrer. You're looking for an echo chamber

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TheCensoredBrit TheCensoredBrit

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name calling ohh how original

this I find interesting
A Democratic Socialist group of students at an Iowa college appeared to make death threats on Twitter against capitalists and President Trump — the last message to the attention of the Secret Service.

“The left has done a good job radicalizing juggalos, weebs, furries, but I will not rest until ‘hXc’ stands for hang+Xterminate capitalists,” the club wrote Oct. 4 in a since deleted tweet.

a question for you

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer OP

That the meaning of Jefferson's famous line in a letter has since been bastardized was proven out by Jefferson's own actions. He sent tbe letter on 1 January 1802, on the 3rd he attended church services held in the House of Representatives, as he continued to do throughout his two terms in office.

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Bozette Bozette

Many times in it's long history the Supreme Court has found that the Establishment Clause was intended to prevent any governmental endorsement or support of religion. It also prevents any governmental attempts to inhibit or oppose religion. SCOTUS has also said that the clause prohibits the endorsement of religion generally over non-religion.

For example, in Everson vs. the Board of Education (1947) The Supreme Court wrote "the clause against the establishment of religion by law was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state."

In that case the court provided a minimal list of state actions that would violate the Establishment Clause. These include; Setting up a state church. Passing laws that specifically aid one religion or aid religions generally. Forcing or otherwise influencing induviduals to attend or not attend church. Punishing people for ascribing to certain beliefs or disbeliefs or for attending or not attending church. Taxes levied to support religious institutions or activities. Governmental participation in religious organizations or religious organizations participation in governmental activities.

In Lemon vs. Katzman (1970) the court provided a three part test (the Lemon Test) to determine if a specific law violates the Establishment Clause. The three questions are; Does the law have a secular purpose? If not, it violates the Establishment Clause. Is the primary effect either to enhance religion or to inhibit it? If it does, it violates the Establishment Clause. Does the law foster an excessive governmental entanglement with religion? If so, it violates the Establishment Clause.

Whether or not the words "separation of church and state" actually appear in the Constitution is a meaningless argument. This is not the first unwritten concept found to be protected by the constitution. In fact there are many. A recent example would be McDonald vs. Chicago (2010) In that case SCOTUS ruled that the Second Amendment included the right to bear arms for self defense despite the fact that those words are nowhere in the Constitution. Another is Gideon vs. Wainwright (1963). In that case SCOTUS ruled that the constitution guarantees the right to an attorney despite the fact that the words "public defender" appear nowhere in the Constitution. There are many more examples.

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Chris_PHAET_Demon Chris_PHAET_Demon

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the supreme court also ruled
the blackman is only a half man

justice Ginsburg in her OWN words

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer OP

In response to “the supreme court also ruled the blackman is...

Yes it did. And that's not the only ruling by SCOTUS that was wrong. There have been others over the years.

However I think with this issue we have to consider what is referred to as legal precedence.

When the courts, both federal and state, continuously rule on the same issue in the same way the answer becomes clear. At that point it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to make a case against decades of legal precedent. Courts may tweek a law over the years, allowing something or banning something else, but the basic law remains.

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Chris_PHAET_Demon Chris_PHAET_Demon

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we live in a time where 2 sets of law are on full display

Clinton law
peasant law

uranium one
the Rosenbergs Executed for far less

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