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Hitler won because we continue to use the weapons, both physical and psychological, which the very threat of his continued success had induced us to develop. To this day we have not learned the lesson we thought we had taught the rest of the world by conquering him.

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I wouldn't say Hitler won. He clearly lost everything - the war, his country, and his life.

As for his ideology.. he didn't invent genocide, racism, antisemitism, ruthlessness in acquiring power, etc. He only excelled (for a short time) at carrying these torches. These ideas existed before he was born and continue on past his death.

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And what lesson is that? If my memory serves me correctly, Hitler lost.

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JustJimColo JustJimColo

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Think what he means was Hitler lost the war but the mindset is still around?

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Rooster Rooster

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That's what made it confusing to me. What's the mindset he is referring to?

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JustJimColo JustJimColo

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I think the warrior way. Continue the wars forever.

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Rooster Rooster

I wouldn't say Hitler won. He clearly lost everything - the war, his country, and his life.

As for his ideology.. he didn't invent genocide, racism, antisemitism, ruthlessness in acquiring power, etc. He only excelled (for a short time) at carrying these torches. These ideas existed before he was born and continue on past his death.

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PhilboydStudge PhilboydStudge

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I was thinking the same thing. But then I thought it was because of his raise that the world has nukes, jets, ICBMs etc. And the general creation and rise of the MIC.
Probably would have happened anyway.

As Rooster says above. We still have the mindset - nationalism and supremism are alive and thriving in the US and all across Europe.

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VicZinc VicZinc

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Agreed. War has a tendency to speed up technological advances. Plus, not all of them are bad (e.g. radar, communication satellites, etc).

Yea, I forgot about nationalism and supremacism. We experience it first hand in the US but I suspect it's alive and well almost everywhere.

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PhilboydStudge PhilboydStudge

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Saying Hitler won implies that his ideals live on. Witness the the recent school shooting by a 17 year old supremacist. As long as these ideals are allow to fester Hitler has won.

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ErasmusB_FurmanSmall ErasmusB_FurmanSmall OP

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I hear you. Vonnegut once wrote that bad ideas and bad (brain) chemicals are the yin and yang of madness.. but how do we kill an idea? If there's one thing we're really good at, it's hanging onto bad ideas.

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PhilboydStudge PhilboydStudge

Hitler didn't win, and his Idealogy didn't die either
it moved to the Middle East

The ghost of the Grand Mufti lives

here, use YOUR words in the browser
Obama an the Muslim Brotherhood

here is a thought you

We may have the watches
Islam has the Time

the Communists of the 60's were rather smart
they took over academia now look what coming out of the colleges

no
the old emenies of America are not gone

there is nothing new under the Sun
Faces changes
Technology changes
people don't

the 5th Column, absolutely hating on America
everyday, day in day out


wanna learn about the 5th column
Spanish Civil War

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer

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His ideas survived. He won.

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ErasmusB_FurmanSmall ErasmusB_FurmanSmall OP

In response to “His ideas survived. He won.

They weren't his ideas. Those existed long before Hitler was born.

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JustJimColo JustJimColo

In response to “His ideas survived. He won.

were they his idea's?

didn't Rome do the same
they did conquer the known World

History is full of such behavior

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Neanderthal_Momdoer Neanderthal_Momdoer

Hitler didn't win because there are millions (billions?) of people alive right now that he wanted to wipe out. You can say nuclear weapons are bad without acting like defeating the Nazis wasn't significant.

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DWF DWF

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Defeating the regime was significant. Failing to defeat supremacist ideology was also significant. Until they are defeated Hitler won.

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ErasmusB_FurmanSmall ErasmusB_FurmanSmall OP

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Supremacist ideology has been around from the first time there was more than one tribe of people.

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JustJimColo JustJimColo

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Every once in a while someone brings it to the fore. When we claim to have defeated it - yet it lives - we have not won, it has.

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ErasmusB_FurmanSmall ErasmusB_FurmanSmall OP

No, I'm pretty sure Hitler lost.
You'll need to be more specific about the unlearned lesson. Your cryptic post is simply not enough.

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Budwick Budwick

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Yup - We need to lock up crazy people.

PS - That's not Hitler.

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Budwick Budwick

He lost without question, but he’s sure rolling in his grave...

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Masha Masha

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He won, and continues to win the hearts and minds of each new generation that allows his ideas of intolerance to survive and pass into the future.

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