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Putting up a concrete bridge as long as a football field...in a day. Hmmm...that should work just fine. We mustnt upset traffic flow, after all...

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Two of the contractors have apparently had safety issues in the past, one is also a miltary contractor (Army and Navy) and the other contracts with NASA. Doesn’t that just make ya feel all warm and fuzzy? 😕

https://youtu.be/8gAVzFvbUNY

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Say what? You're shittin me!

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Rooster Rooster

What? Who's gonna do that?

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StarzAbove StarzAbove

They have been building bridges like this since 2010. Not sure what happened here, was it a design flaw, or faulty materials? It will be interesting to see what the NTSB has to say.

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It will be.
I have difficulty in believing that kind of system can be safe. Way too many ways for concrete to fail. I think that any that have been erected to be vigorously inspected. And any future plans to erect similar ones scrapped.

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Carla Carla OP

Two of the contractors have apparently had safety issues in the past, one is also a miltary contractor (Army and Navy) and the other contracts with NASA. Doesn’t that just make ya feel all warm and fuzzy? 😕

https://youtu.be/8gAVzFvbUNY

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Bozette Bozette

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Just toasty.

At the end of his story the reporter stated they were doing a stress test. A stress test, on a new, quicky bridge, with traffic underneath. What could go wrong?

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Carla Carla OP

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That has been reported, though not officially verified, as yet. Rubio also said that cables had come loose and were being tightened, which he apparently got from workers there.

The bridge isn't really a "quickie", as it wasn't even scheduled to open until next year. The center tower had yet to be built...which is really the main issue, I would think. No central tower means no support cables yet. The real difference was that it was built off to the side and moved into place. This almost seems like someone decided this should be an historic "first" without fully thinking through the possibilities, and yes, I do think minimizing traffic disruption was a primary factor.

The second link has video of the collapse.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/...wer/431418002/

http://www.independent.co.uk/ne...-a8258746.html

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Bozette Bozette

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Reckless, arrogance. Putting that in, without support, leaving it, without support for five days. Whomever the builders and developers are, they should be sued into bankruptcy.

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Carla Carla OP

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I'm sure there will be lawsuits.

The bridge itself, and the ABC program at FIU (as well as four other schools, IIRC) were funded in part by government grants. A 2014 GAO report criticized the government award procedure, saying projects that received awards did not live up to government standards. Whether that included this project or not should be looked into, as well as the grant program overall.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/03...unded-by-feder

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Apparently the school, one of the design engineers, and the Florida DOT knew there was a crack in the bridge prior to the collapse.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/9...=244+273027088

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Bozette Bozette

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Geeze. Concrete cracks. Joints are put in to control where it cracks. There is no way that the steel within that pour could carry the weight without the support below. One crack, no matter where on the span, would be all it would take.
Any contractor or engineer would know that. I cannot believe they ignored it.

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Carla Carla OP

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Nobody wants to be the "bad" guy who says, "Hey! Got a problem here. Gonna cost a buttload to fix it, but we cannot ignore it!"

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Bozette Bozette

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What happened to being the good guy? That is a well trafficed road.

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Carla Carla OP

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New method, new programs in schools (funded by government grants), $14.2 million...who pays for the ****-up? These are what's running through heads, not the people who could be hurt.

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Bozette Bozette

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Well....that is what codes are for. To protect people.
A friggin house is inspected from the digging of the footings to the finished unvarying height of the steps on a stairway. I find it difficult to believe that any inspection by an inspector was called for or was done.

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Carla Carla OP

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Welp...the government sets the codes, and the government was highly invested both in this new method and this particular project. 'Nuff said?

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