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I wasn't implying that you were implying that

I said that in response to you saying
"we're all ignorant"

can't always use that as an excuse
sometimes
it works
but not always
it doesn't work when someone says
"I don't understand x, but I will still speak ill of x as if I do understand it"

I know that certain things sell more
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but it's at the expense of the well being of many

for example
sex sells
http://amirite.com/761626-do-yo...nforce/1923606

but I still think there's more to it than just money
the war propaganda tactics are not new tactics

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fuzala fuzala

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I agree. I think in this case though, it's understandable that from a non-Muslim point of view, terrorism would cast a nasty shadow over Islam.

I live in a country not involved in the war and most of the news I get about Islam is regarding terrorism.

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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I know we're all ignorant
but to say
"I don't understand x much, but I'm still gonna trash talk about x"
that is ridiculous

and it's not just about the money
think war propaganda

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fuzala fuzala

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I wasn't implying that its okay to trash talk something you don't understand. I don't think OP was either. I think they were just making the point that terrorism has affected their view of Islam. OP does acknowledge that they know there is more to Islam but terrorism sticks out like a sore thumb.

I think its mostly about money though but we can agree to disagree. Stories about Muslims helping their community dont sell. Stories about extremists blowing themselves up do.

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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I never said it was unique to a certain group

that is why I talked about profiling period

if it casts a shadow for some
that's their own problem if they're not willing to look into it instead of making instant and snap judgements about whole groups of people

if you want to understand a concept
go try to understand it instead of spreading vicious things about people

if it can tarnish the view for someone for a whole group
then that's just ignorance

I never said Muslims don't do anything wrong either
and I never said no Muslim is faultless
so I don't know where you get that from

I merely said the media propagates information while ignoring all the other information to serve whatever agenda they have

such actions are causing big problems

for example
A Muslim mother was killed in her home because of a hate crime

what the media is doing is promoting hate crime
and that is what I am opposing against

they keep hush hush about some crimes if it doesn't fit the mold they're trying to show

but if the crime fits their agenda
BOOM
blow it out of proportion

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fuzala fuzala

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Yeah, but we're all ignorant. I'm not trying to justify it just explain it. I get nervous when I see a Arab guy I on my plane. Even if he's not Muslim. That's the result of 9/11 and Islamic terrorism for me. I know it's not right though but I can't help it. In a way, the image of Arab males has been tarnished in my eyes. I'd never act on the feeling or even think the guy should be strip searched or thrown off the plane because he's Arab though. I just get shaky. Anywhere else, I barely take notice of whether someone is Arab or not. But on planes, I do. I don't know if that makes me a racist or ignorant or whatever, but I know without 9/11 I would never get that nervous feeling.

I don't think it's anything personal against Islam though. I just think the media's biggest agenda is to make money. Since 9/11, Islamic terrorism sells. People wanna know more about it and read more because they wanna be prepared if it happens again. They make more money off pushing the idea that Islamic terrorism is the worst thing in the world. It's sensationalism. It's always been like that.

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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did you even look at the chart?

and because of profiling
some guy almost escaped the bombing of a bank because they were eyeballing the innocent middle eastern dude

some other guy escaped a petty store theft because they were eyeballing the innocent black guy

I don't know about you
but if I was a black guy walking into a store
and if I was innocent
getting eyeballed while some else steals
that wouldn't make me too happy

it's profiling like that that's causing so many problems in the first place

it gives people a feeling of being unwelcome
which also leads to a lack of unity
and it obviously promotes racism within many
giving people the mentality that a certain race is the reason for certain problems

"go back to your country"
who really wants to hear that crap?
definitely not a hardworking person who did nothing to deserve the hate spewed at him/her

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sounds ridiculous

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fuzala fuzala

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99% was an over-exaggeration. Sorry. I'm not American nor do I live in America, so I only ever get news about major terrorist attacks in America or the rest of the world. Most end up being by Islamic radicals. Like the in Nigeria now. I'm sure that's not big news in America but it makes the headlines here.

And I agree with you 99%. It's just that you make it sound like Muslims are completely faultless and are just the subject of a media witch-hunt. I think it's wrong to blame it ALL on the media when there are Muslims committing acts of terror in the name of Islam. The media doesn't make that up. Yes, it's overstated but it doesn't mean it's completely untrue. Regardless of whether most terrorist attacks are committed by Islamic radicals or not, there's still too many being committed by them. Enough to tarnish the image of the entire group in many peoples eyes. And, I'm not saying that Muslims deserve to be stereotyped as terrorist, but rather that the wave of terrorism by Islamic radicals has caused this bad reputation. It's not fair that all Muslims get thrown under the same bus though but that's what happens. Everyone stereotypes and everyone gets stereotyped.
So, I agree terrorism has cast a shadow of Islam; I agree the media are in part to blame but I also think Muslims (not you but the bad ones [not just Al Qaeda but the parents who have their kids hold up "Behead all those who insult the prophet" signs]) are to blame as well.

For the record, right wing people tend to have a bad rep as racist, xenophobic people because of the acts of extremists in their group. Whenever I think of a republican in America, I get this image of an old racist white dude. Left wing people have the rep as tree hugging, non patriots because of extremists. I mentioned about Christians and homophobia before. You probably have it worst at the moment but having a bad rep because of a few extremists is not unique to Islam. Or blacks.

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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that shadow is cast when you turn a blind eye to all the other information out there
and concentrate specifically on the what the media propagates

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fuzala fuzala

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Every post about Islam, you're there.
Cool story: when the news of the Boston bombing came through, before any suspects were named, I assumed the perpetrators were Muslim. When I hear about a robbery I assume the suspects are black. Homophobic violence, I usually assume its a white Christian male. 99% of the time I'm right. Bad reputations aren't entirely deserved but they're earned for a reason.

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A tutorial video, outlining what makes a good post (originality, wit, the ability to provoke thought and discussion, humour etc) and what doesn't.

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muddyringlets muddyringlets

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I think the mods need a video like that.

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I'm sure it it, but the **** geek in me won't allow me to think it's funny cuz I'm like "but that doesn't show how many people who text and drive that don't get into an accident."

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colebowl colebowl

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Id say most people who text and drive dont get into accidents. A professor of mine used this to show how easily stats can be misused. I found it hilarious but it took me a long time to figure out why it couldn't be true.

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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People here seem to be having a lot of trouble picking up on sarcasm lately.

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Not mocking man, just writing truth.

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tyrannyvigilant tyrannyvigilant

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Lol. Arrogant much? There's a difference between opinion and truth.

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One who's never engaged in combat hasn't had the opportunity to develop the understanding that there's a massive chasm separating bravery and stupidity. You're welcome to be cannon fodder “Jimi”. And those who know better will live to fight another day. “...no ** ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb ** die for his country.” ~ Patton

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You mock me so elegantly. I understand the use if snipers. Hell, if I were an army general I'd probably use them. I still think the act of sniping is cowardly though.

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Clever. That was why I clarified that it's nothing wrong with the actual post, but post of the days have gone down in quality quite a bit which means either the mods are picking worse or we've gotten worse at doing our jobs.

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John_MacTavish John_MacTavish

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I don't think its fair to criticize the quality of posts if you don't post anything anymore.
"Be the OP you want to see on amirite." - Gandhi

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JimiHendrix JimiHendrix

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You are such a moralist. (shh)

Seriously though, as I said above: the slow loris is a perfect example of an animal that sets its goals and moves steadfastly toward them. This picture seemed to exemplify the idea of having a goal in sight and carefully inching toward it. The fixed gaze and the measured reach appeared to me to add value.

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VicZinc VicZinc

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I still dont think it adds anything. All I see is a cute animal. But that's just my thoughts. Other people seem to enjoy posts like this.

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Maybe its just me, but I always think the picture should add value to the post and not just be a gimmick to score votes.

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Being able to defend ourselves is of a greater utility than getting moon rocks

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WinniethePooh WinniethePooh

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Regardless of whether that kind of spending is justified, its still disturbing.

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A higher power doesn't necessarily have to have a plan for everything (or anything at all).

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I guess it's how you're shaped to thing as well. My parents always told me that what is discovered in science is all part of the plan and that the more we learn the better.
I just think it's amazing to learn things like everything is made up of atoms and that an atom is mostly empty space, and everything fits so perfectly together it just seems to planned to be coincidence

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Naggs Naggs

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I'd just like to point out that its not all perfectly put together. The way the earth formed causes earthquakes and tsunamis. We've been hit by at least two massive asteroids and suffered an eruption of a super volcano that nearly wiped out life on earth. The same atoms that make us, make molecules that are lethal to us, etc. Don't get me wrong, I think the world and life are beautiful things. But they seem too flawed to be planned.

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When I used to believe in god, I found the opposite happened. The more I learned the less I believed.

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So is **. So go ** yourself.

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thing is Muslims aren't sitting by idly
we are passing out informational pamphlets and whatnot
we have tv shows trying to bring about awareness

it's not our fault we don't get as much media coverage
that's not all within our control

you get what I'm saying?

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fuzala fuzala

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Yeah, I guess. I think the Islamic leaders need to be targeted and pressured into showing more of the 'other side' of Islam. You should think bigger than pamphlets and tv shows.

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oh okay
high proportion means many then
no?

and I can't disagree with your intention
I do believe you didn't mean to insult
but it did come off as insulting

you have to remember that people have differing perspectives
something may sound fine to you but completely offensive to another

with different experiences as factors

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fuzala fuzala

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Yeah, I think many would be the word.
ok, but I can't really do anything about that. If we stopped making posts because of fear of offending people, amirite would suck. I think its better to offend people by stating your opinion than to remain silent. Anyway, I've learned more from making this post than I would've if I hadn't. But I'm sorry if it did offend you.

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