When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion, amirite?

Are you saying all religion is insanity and or delusion?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well... if i told you i honestly and completely believed that once there was a guy named Cthulhu who had the ability to fly and that he visits me as a ghost and gives me advice you'd consider me crazy. But if i said the same thing exchanging Cthulhu with Jesus and flying with walking on water you would just consider me another christian.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i wouldn't consider you crazy at all for the first story, i would simply correct you and tell you Cthulhu is actually spelled Jesus. anyone can make anything sound crazy if you think about it. i mean...we are worlds away staring at an electronic screen sending letters to each other that we interpret as words...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"we are worlds away staring at an electronic screen sending letters to each other that we interpret as words" this is all things we know, furthermore it includes no supernatural elements.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

si! to me religion is something i know. you just previously made it sound crazy. i'm not trying to convert you, just have you see things from my point of view, and let you know, we aren't insane. promise.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

oh... and how exactly do you "know"?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's not any sort of scientific proof your looking for. its a belief. like love, how do you know someone loves you? you can't show it scientifically, you just know :) but your looking for scientific proof, which NEITHER of us have.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well on the subject of the "abrahamic god" specifically there is actually logical proof "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Easy: He is able, just not always willing. How is this proof?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

According to the bible god is omnibenevolent so he would want "perfect good". Combine god's three major characteristics "omnibenevolence", "omnipotence" and "omniscience" and you end up with a phenomenon that could not possibly result in the world we know.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He does want perfect good. In the beginning the world was perfect. Man was created, and God gave them freedom (choices) man sinned. World is no longer perfect. Genesis is a good book if your interested.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Although i much agree that freedom is a lovely thing, freedom can obviously not be better than perfect. You're saying that god robbed us of paradise and exchange gave us freedom? Thank you very much but i'd like to return my order.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

first of all, I apolagize for the million notificatins you are getting, but I do enjoy a good debate. And yes perfection is quite nice, but I enjoy not having a dictator God. I like life, even with the unfortunate it includes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay you basically just said that something can be "better than perfect" >:I. I think this means i have officially won this argument... i won't be returning to the page.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

good:) that means I get the last word which in my book means I won. God gave us perfection AND freedom. We ruined it, not God. And I never said freedom is better than perfection, I said I like freedom. One last thing, have a nice life, additionally I'll be enjoying my afterlife too:)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

umm, you're argumet is flawed, you cannot use god in your arguments, as I'm pretty sure their is no proof of existance. You could re-instate it as "Something in my mind"

by Anonymous 13 years ago

what in the world are you talking about? your comment has nothing to do with my comments. we were never debating whether God exists, we were debating on God's fairness.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ps, I voted to homepage this. Let's start a Riot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

God could prevent evil. God can do anything, but we have FREE WILL, and he won't tamper with that. He gave us the freedom to do whatever we want. We can follow and believe in him, or we can live for our own selfish desires.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yes. which it is.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with you, but that is a bit harsh. But I still agree with you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*decides against starting another religious debate, those are far too overdone*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or a cult, which is basically what religion is, a cult. (By the way this has nothing to do with the other comments, just the post itself haha)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Win!!!!!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Completely agree. While I believe that everyone should practice whatever they want, I also think that it creates 3/4 of the problems in the world.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People need to stop bashing religion. Not all of us are those weird mormon people with the "God hates fags" signs. Eliminate some of those crazies, the rest of our Church are kind, caring, peoples. My neighborhood church is the most loving, close-knit people you may ever meet. :) You need to be thankful that Jesus walked on this Earth. If he didn't, we would all still be living in the dark ages :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

wow, you are ridiculous. You say you are so great and loving, yet you say we "need to be thankful." fuck you, I'm not thankful, that douche started so much shit

by Anonymous 13 years ago

LMFAO they're called the CHRISTIAN dark ages for a reason. the dark ages started shortly after christianity began to expand, and lasted until about the 14th century. maybe if you went to a real school you would learn this shit instead of praying.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The Christians weren't the one to cause all the trouble, it was people persecuting the Christians... Clearly your "real school" isn't very good.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

the reason the dark ages happened was because everyone became a fucking monk who prayed for 8 hours a day. no one invented anything or furthered society. when a problem came (like the black death), they sat there and prayed for their god to do something. the other main reason why the dark age happened: the fall of the roman empire, which unsurprisingly happened less than 100 years after they accepted christianity as their religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The dark ages were caused by pagan barbarians that attacked the Christian Roman Empire. And we got out of the dark ages because of the Christian Renaissance. And this is exactly what I mean. You atheists are nasty, hateful people who are trying to bring a loving Church down.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, if the ENLIGHTENMENT hadn't happened we'd still be stuck in the dark ages. That was when people started realizing that religion went against reason.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and then, sadly, these pathetic delusions that they just "know" ar passed down to their unfortunate children.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

OP here. I just want to say it's cool that it made it to the homepage and that i didn't really think of this myself. I kinda stole it from Richard Dawkins but i figured he wouldn't post it on here himself :) I know the quote might seem a bit harsh but it's still pretty brilliant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i voted yeah, then remembered: religion is when a group of people have a common belief. which includes atheism...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Win

by Anonymous 13 years ago