Look at it this way, men and women are separted for a reason, having gays or lesbians in there would cause a disbalance.... You can't seperate the gays and lesbians and put them together, because that way people would lie just to be with the opposite sex.... I mean the military does not promote straight sex, but if they put gays with the straights, they would be promoting gay sex.... So that whole argument is actually unfair to straights

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You make it sound like Gays and Lesbians can't control themselves around people. They joined the military for a reason and are most likely not going to ruin it by doing the 'Queen' hand waving or pinching someones ass. Give people more credit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No what about the straight people? The military doesn't trust them either or else they would be together, you act like every straight person goes around sleeping with each other, if straights can't be trusted then neither should be gays. That's what equality is about. I'm doing military training too and I know that just by looking around that just because they are joining military it isn't necessarily for the noble reason of serving their country. Every soldier has his/her reason to fight

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There's a lot of people who thumbed me down, but you have nothing to say to support your argument.... I am willing to listen, if you actually provide a decent argument. But as far as I can see, if you don't allow straight people to be free with each other, then why allow gays to do it? Think about it it's unfair to the straight people, just because gays/lesbians are minority does not mean they can do what ever they want and get your support, I have gay friends I don't disapprove of them, but I won't support this just to appease them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This post isn't saying "Gays should be allowed to be together in the military, amirite?" it's saying gay men have the bigger balls than the men who complain about them. I'm not in the military so I wouldn't know, but I would assume the complaints are based on straight men/women being uncomfortable with the fact that the gays/lesbians might be thinking about doing something to them. People can think whatever they want, it's natural to be uncomfortable with something you don't fully know about. This post is saying that despite all the complaints that the gays are going to do something to them, they're still joining the military. You mention in a different comment that everyone has their reasons for joining the military. Let them do that regardless of sexual preference. This post has NOTHING to do with relationships, it's saying that gay men have a lot of courage to join to fight for their country, despite the fact that many don't believe they should be allowed to do so

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well you can't talk about bigger balls without considering all the aspects of the argument.... Gays/lesbians might be comfortable with straight people, but not vice versa. I mean in order to join the military there is a certain amount of bravery that's necessary, but gays/lesbians just like anyone else might not have a noble reason to join. I do understand that the OP said they have bigger balls, but there are a lot of issues to consider, before coming to this conclusion

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So EVERY straight man/woman has a problem with gays and lesbians joining the military? NO. Just enough people to cause trouble.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, not every.... I don't have a problem with them either, I'm just seeing another persons view point. I mean okay so tell me this, a gay guy can sleep in the same room with a straight guy, but a straight girl can't sleep with a straight guy, the gay guy might not do anything, but neither will the girl. So why don't they allow the women and men to be in the same room? If we go by your arguement then women and men shouldn't be seperated either, get it?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's when that are at the base that men and women are seperated, when they are defending us in another country, they don't care. And you are just trying to prove a point over and over when we DO understand it but we are sticking with our thoughts and beliefs on the subject. And if you are SO determined to make your point, take it up with the military. This is a opinion-Based site and telling us we are wrong goes against that. But a good reason if you want for why straight men and woman are allowed in the same room as gays and lesbians is because a gay guy and a lesbian wont get a girl pregnant. My apologies for any grammer, spelling or any serious errors in this, I'm typing this at five am before I head to school.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah I would be surprised if you didn't understand it.... It's a pretty simple concept to grasp. But I mean condoms and birth control pills could be used in a hetero sexual relationship and I guess they won't get pregnant, so does that mean they should promote free love and orgies in the military, because it won't get them pregnant? I'm no grammar nazi so I don't care about your grammar, it's the message that concerns me.... But I mean I see there is no longer a point in keeping this argument up and no I won't take it to the military, thanks for the suggestion though

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Think about it this way, in offices it is the norm to keep ones personal life out of the office. The armed forces can be considered an "office" it's not that gays and lesbians are not allowed in the military, it's just that the military doesn't want to know. It's called don't ask don't tell, not keep fags out of the nations armed forces.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No it's not just an office, there are people who have to sleep there, there are huge dorms for men or women, SEPARATE, so they can sleep, but the beds are lined up so it can fit many men or women. They do not put them together, they keep them separate. How do you keep the gay men away from the straight men? How do you separate the lesbians from the straight women? You can't! A woman can be just as uncomfortable with a guy sleeping next to her as a lesbian. It doesn't mean the guy will rape her, nor does it mean the lesbian will either.... It's just a preference

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Called don't ask don't tell, keep personal life out of office? Okay lets just say nobody is straight or gay they're all fucking asexual and feel absolutely NO sexual feelings. Otherwise knowing someone is straight could be harmful because now you know their personal life!!! Honestly, if you can't stand to be around a gay person you shouldn't be fighting for a country like America...because IMO it's people like that who are ruining the rep of America and the values she was made on.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, just no! If there is a straight man going around raping woman, he would have to first get into the women's dorm to rape them, what if a lesbian decides to rape them? She's there already.... If she rapes them that's something preventable that they didn't stop. And your last paragraph, wtf? If you don't want to sleep in the same room as a gay, doesn't mean your anti gay, you might not be comfortable sleeping with the opposite sex either.... You might not care what gays do on their spare time, but you don't want to sleep with them....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You're not sleeping WITH them, just in the same room, and if you can't stand my last paragraph you're part of the problem.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, but you don't see women sleeping in the same room as men either.... I'm saying that the military doesn't trust straight people either.... If straight people aren't trusted then why should gays be treated differently? Of course they aren't sleeping together....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Men and women have sex regardless of the sleeping arrangements. You're just trying to find nitpick reasons why gays shouldn't be allowed to publicly serve their country and it's all a bunch of bullshit.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Now you're moving beside the point, but here I'll explain what the problem with what you are saying is with an example: Serial killers will continue to kill, whether it is legal or not, so let's provide them with weapons. As it applies to this situation: We can't stop them from having sex so let's put them together and make it easier for them? Does that make sense to you?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Look, just because someone is gay does not mean they're going to rape the straight men, or have sex with the other gay guys. They know the rules in the military and they're not going to disobey them. I find it hard to believe how people will do anything to justify a blatantly discriminatory ruling. And honestly I think that the military should suffer when it runs out of straight, fit men and women because they won't let any gays in and we'll see how they're hopping through hoops after the military drastically shrinks in size to be tolerant.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm completely for people making their own choices, and I really don't understand the argument/issue of keeping gays out of the military. Being gay does not affect ones' ability to fire a gun or follow orders...the whole "don't ask, don't tell" is ok I guess, but people should really just accept the fact that everyone, regardless of sexual orientation, wants to protect their country.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The problem is that you do not allow straight men to be with straight women, why would you allow gay men to be with other men or lesbians with other women? If you don't trust straight people, then why trust gay people? If you allow them to join you are discriminating against straight people, by not allowing them to share same rooms for bed and what not

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok, there ARE already gays and lesbians in the army. And there have been gays and lesbians that have served their country since the beginin. But if they let anyone know, they get kicked out. That is really not fair, what if it was their dream to serve their country since they were a kid? Why should they have to hide a part of who they are, sexuality isn't the whole of a person. If gender isn't an issue in the millitary anymore why is sexuality? My boyfriend was in the army and he said he really would not care if someone had came out gay, and wouldn't have have been surprised if some people were.

by Anonymous 13 years ago