Erm... I am Christian... But I do not believe that a book that is thousands of years old, and that has been translated hundreds of times has no errors....
ok...christians DO try to convert others to christianity. it's part of the great commission. make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. us christians are not supposed to conceal our faith. You further define being christian by our acceptance of other religions, which, as far as i know, isn't stated anywhere in the bible. what DOES make us Christian is our love for jesus christ and a relationship with him.
you're right in saying that shoving it down their throats won't accomplish much. that'll just get them angry. There is a verse in the bible (i think its in first peter, idk) it says something about gently sharing the message of christ. We should always be ready to share our testimony and the good news of the gospel with anyone that asks, and defend our faith whenever it's questioned. And as for your point about accepting others, i see where you're coming from. we must love everyone as we love ourselves. So if you love someone, shouldn't you love them enough to bring them the hope of everlasting life?
Of course, i respect someone's use of their free will. I'm a notoriously persistant person you might say, and I certainly hope that i don't repel prospective children of jesus by my testimony and sharing of faith. I recognize that yelling and screaming at people won't do anything. i try to lead by example, i guess. Everyone probably has their own way of expressing and spreading the joy of jesus, and i pray that mine is effective and gentle. I certainly won't accuse anyone of being a bad Christian for having differing methods; that's between them and god. cool beans?
i would just like to say that not all christians are like that. and as a fellow christian i would like to say i am ashamed of all the heartless things that poster said. as humans we don't know if someone is born gay or not, especially if your not gay, u don't have the experience to form an opinion. the bible also says we are given free will. so let the gays be gay if they want.
Yes you can love whoever you want! I liked this girl at my school, and she told me she didn't like me, now I like a different girl. And yes I do know that, if there had been, you would here about it in history books, "Gay right movement of 1856" you don't there were hardly and gay people back then! Also tell your brother that he is a disgrace to manly men!
YOU ARE A JERK! IM NOT GOING TO TELL MY BROTHER THAT AND MAYBE YOU CAN LIKE AND/OR LOVE MORE THEN ONE PERSON BUT YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT! AND IF YOU STILL THINK BEING GAY IS A CHOICE THEN READ MY POST AGAIN! OK?
Your brother and all the freaking fags out there are so freaking stupid, it make me sick! I wish i had a shiney red button, that when I pushed it, i would kill all the gay people, and if i had one of those, I would push it right now, and then would go "MUAhAHAHAHAHAHA" on your post as you found out that your brother died!
Man you are a hugh jerk. I'm only 11 years old, and you talking about killing my brother. I could just call 911 because of child abuse and you would be arrested in no time.
Wait just a second there "Panda". I know who you are. You are NOT the other panda I was talking to before because your comments are different colors! Your 2 different people!
Perhaps hardly any that were out. I wouldn't be out in the 1800s; I don't think many people would enjoy being hung from a tree due to the ignorance of man.
The ignorance of man is letting these fags run rampant, and get married, i can't stop them if they want to be gay, but when they try to make laws saying they can be married, STUPID! And gay marrige will lead to other more extreme stuff if they gay people say that we shouldn't be able to stop people who love eachother, then a brother and a sister with marry, then a guy and his dog, then a guy and his car! By that logic I could marry my xbox because I love it!
No, by that logic we would allow gays to marry. Nothing else to it. The ignorance of man once frowned upon my mother and father being in a relationship; now people of different races are allowed to get married. And so people had to switch over to something else, because heaven forbid they don't have a group of people to set out against.
Judge
–verb (used with object)
6. to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person)
8. to form a judgment or opinion of; decide upon critically:
9. to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge:
10. to infer, think, or hold as an opinion; conclude about or assess:
11. to make a careful guess about; estimate:
12. (of the ancient Hebrew judges) to govern.
Along with that, I don't believe in anything the Bilbe says, so that pathetic arguement you attempted to use holds no water with me.
Jesus christ man, you're ridiculously ignorant! Holy fuck, you're 14, stop trying to be all "oh god is bomb," not to mention that if you truly loved god, you wouldn't be talking so much senseless shit... In your mind, is killing a whole group of people less a sin than being gay? Quit trying to either failtroll or pathetically spew religion you dumbass 14 year old.
Besides, why should you force what your religion says on others? Because from what I gather, it is your religion that is telling you it is wrong, but obviously not everyone shares your religious views, and you certainly shouldn't push them on people.
Hey, this is panda, signed in on my profile, and no I am not forcing my religion on you, if you say no, I don't keep trying make you a christian, right now, I am simply trying to tell you being gay is a sin. Forcing a religion on someone is the mulims going on a jihad, blowing up all the non muslims
Exactly. You're only "proof" that it is a "sin" is the Bible, which not all people believe in. Because of this, you claim people should change their ways or they'll go to hell. That's very convincing.
But, anyway, your whole "proof" that it is a "sin" really doesn't hold water then. So do you have any other proof that is, you know, regarded as a fact by people?
I choose to be a Christian, that has a life of hardship attached to it, but just because someone lives there life in a way, and that way has hardship doesn't mean they were born that way...
There is a difference between religion and being gay. Did you choose to be your gender? What about the hair color you were born with? What about your eye color? Did you choose that? I don't recall getting a sheet of paper asking me if I wanted to be Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, or Other (Specify).
Oh, I forgot, the Bilble again. Oh geez; can't make up your own opinions? Gotta follow what some book says?
I know the truth- I'm not dumb enough to think one group of people is awful. It would make me no better then the ignorant people that harrassed my mother while she worked because she was dating a black man.
You're an idiot.
This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen ever.
oh boy, i wasted my time reading all of this? stupid argument , stupid reason. but i do agree with the op that you are born gay. ciao(:
omigosh.....this is hilarious!
Haha yes. Every post containing the word 'gay' in it has some crazy debate in the comments... But I like Anonymous's comment up two from mine :)
Erm... I am Christian... But I do not believe that a book that is thousands of years old, and that has been translated hundreds of times has no errors....
ok...christians DO try to convert others to christianity. it's part of the great commission. make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, son, and holy spirit. us christians are not supposed to conceal our faith. You further define being christian by our acceptance of other religions, which, as far as i know, isn't stated anywhere in the bible. what DOES make us Christian is our love for jesus christ and a relationship with him.
you're right in saying that shoving it down their throats won't accomplish much. that'll just get them angry. There is a verse in the bible (i think its in first peter, idk) it says something about gently sharing the message of christ. We should always be ready to share our testimony and the good news of the gospel with anyone that asks, and defend our faith whenever it's questioned. And as for your point about accepting others, i see where you're coming from. we must love everyone as we love ourselves. So if you love someone, shouldn't you love them enough to bring them the hope of everlasting life?
Of course, i respect someone's use of their free will. I'm a notoriously persistant person you might say, and I certainly hope that i don't repel prospective children of jesus by my testimony and sharing of faith. I recognize that yelling and screaming at people won't do anything. i try to lead by example, i guess. Everyone probably has their own way of expressing and spreading the joy of jesus, and i pray that mine is effective and gentle. I certainly won't accuse anyone of being a bad Christian for having differing methods; that's between them and god. cool beans?
i would just like to say that not all christians are like that. and as a fellow christian i would like to say i am ashamed of all the heartless things that poster said. as humans we don't know if someone is born gay or not, especially if your not gay, u don't have the experience to form an opinion. the bible also says we are given free will. so let the gays be gay if they want.
NO, being gay is not genetic, it is a perverted lifestyle choice! There is not a shred of evidence that it is genetic.
I never said it was genetic but my brother is openly gay and he said he was born gay. IT IS NOT A CHOICE!
If it is not a choice then how come there were hardly any gays before just recently?
You don't know that! You can't control who you love, you just love someone. So you're wrong, I'm right. And my brother is proof.
Yes you can love whoever you want! I liked this girl at my school, and she told me she didn't like me, now I like a different girl. And yes I do know that, if there had been, you would here about it in history books, "Gay right movement of 1856" you don't there were hardly and gay people back then! Also tell your brother that he is a disgrace to manly men!
YOU ARE A JERK! IM NOT GOING TO TELL MY BROTHER THAT AND MAYBE YOU CAN LIKE AND/OR LOVE MORE THEN ONE PERSON BUT YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT! AND IF YOU STILL THINK BEING GAY IS A CHOICE THEN READ MY POST AGAIN! OK?
Your brother and all the freaking fags out there are so freaking stupid, it make me sick! I wish i had a shiney red button, that when I pushed it, i would kill all the gay people, and if i had one of those, I would push it right now, and then would go "MUAhAHAHAHAHAHA" on your post as you found out that your brother died!
Man you are a hugh jerk. I'm only 11 years old, and you talking about killing my brother. I could just call 911 because of child abuse and you would be arrested in no time.
YOURE SO RACIST ITS RIDICULOUS !!!!
Wait just a second there "Panda". I know who you are. You are NOT the other panda I was talking to before because your comments are different colors! Your 2 different people!
HA I CAUGHT YOU
I have no idea what you are talking about, and i am only 14 so i'm not abusing you... i hardly older than you!
How come your color of your comment is red and all the others by Panda are blue?
I'm right and I know it.
I am on the moble site, so i can't see that... I am using an ipod touch
I don't care if YOU can't see it, I can and I know you are lying
What are you talking about?
Whatever you are commenting anonymously because I can't click on panda to see you profile, so that means it's anonymous
you want me to sign in on my profile? I have one but i forgot to sign in brb
*hear
There weren't any gays before?! :o Because I'm pretty sure the gays were also targeted during the Holocaust.
There WERE gays, but not as much
Er....I wasn't even addressing you. o_0 Can you not see that it says Panda at the start of my post?
@448779 (Tenaciouss): I know but whatever
thats what I said, hardly any
Perhaps hardly any that were out. I wouldn't be out in the 1800s; I don't think many people would enjoy being hung from a tree due to the ignorance of man.
The ignorance of man is letting these fags run rampant, and get married, i can't stop them if they want to be gay, but when they try to make laws saying they can be married, STUPID! And gay marrige will lead to other more extreme stuff if they gay people say that we shouldn't be able to stop people who love eachother, then a brother and a sister with marry, then a guy and his dog, then a guy and his car! By that logic I could marry my xbox because I love it!
No, by that logic we would allow gays to marry. Nothing else to it. The ignorance of man once frowned upon my mother and father being in a relationship; now people of different races are allowed to get married. And so people had to switch over to something else, because heaven forbid they don't have a group of people to set out against.
I have to go, but tell monkey or what ever that his brother will go to hell unless he changes his way, and lives his life for Jesus. Peace...
Why the hell should I? I don't believe in God. And even then...aren't you not supposed to judge? Moron.
I'm not judging, in the Bible it say that if i man has relations with a man as a man with a woman then it is damnable (goes to Hell)
Yes, yes you are judging. :)
Judge
–verb (used with object)
6. to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person)
8. to form a judgment or opinion of; decide upon critically:
9. to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge:
10. to infer, think, or hold as an opinion; conclude about or assess:
11. to make a careful guess about; estimate:
12. (of the ancient Hebrew judges) to govern.
Along with that, I don't believe in anything the Bilbe says, so that pathetic arguement you attempted to use holds no water with me.
I am siply telling you what the Bible says, and It doesn't matter if you believe in the Bible, it is true, and without error.
Jesus christ man, you're ridiculously ignorant! Holy fuck, you're 14, stop trying to be all "oh god is bomb," not to mention that if you truly loved god, you wouldn't be talking so much senseless shit... In your mind, is killing a whole group of people less a sin than being gay? Quit trying to either failtroll or pathetically spew religion you dumbass 14 year old.
That is an arguement for another time. c:
Besides, why should you force what your religion says on others? Because from what I gather, it is your religion that is telling you it is wrong, but obviously not everyone shares your religious views, and you certainly shouldn't push them on people.
Hey, this is panda, signed in on my profile, and no I am not forcing my religion on you, if you say no, I don't keep trying make you a christian, right now, I am simply trying to tell you being gay is a sin. Forcing a religion on someone is the mulims going on a jihad, blowing up all the non muslims
But it isn't a sin. ;)
Yes it is!
Proof?
The Bible... we already went over this...
Exactly. You're only "proof" that it is a "sin" is the Bible, which not all people believe in. Because of this, you claim people should change their ways or they'll go to hell. That's very convincing.
The Bible is true whether you believe in it or not... we already went over this to...
No, not really.
But, anyway, your whole "proof" that it is a "sin" really doesn't hold water then. So do you have any other proof that is, you know, regarded as a fact by people?
I choose to be a Christian, that has a life of hardship attached to it, but just because someone lives there life in a way, and that way has hardship doesn't mean they were born that way...
There is a difference between religion and being gay. Did you choose to be your gender? What about the hair color you were born with? What about your eye color? Did you choose that? I don't recall getting a sheet of paper asking me if I wanted to be Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual, or Other (Specify).
There is a reason a guy has a penis, and a girl has a vagina
Yep, so we can pee. :D
But, no, on a more serious note...so what? What would you say to all those sterile people out there, then?
that is unatural, it is a disfuntion
So then they're wrong and they are sinners?
Haha, you have fun walking up to someone and telling them that to their face.
The Bible never said that was a sin! I am so annoy at you! Well i am leaving because you are to stubborn to see the truth.
Oh, I forgot, the Bilble again. Oh geez; can't make up your own opinions? Gotta follow what some book says?
I know the truth- I'm not dumb enough to think one group of people is awful. It would make me no better then the ignorant people that harrassed my mother while she worked because she was dating a black man.
Edit: that was intended to be directed at the OP
HER brother
well exuse me! I forgot that I can just look throught the internet and see if your a boy of girl, people always assume people on the internet are guys
I thought you were a girl at first