+546 Denying Muslims a mosque because of 9/11 is like failing an entire class because one student didn't pass the final exam, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Jerk

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Why?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because 9/11 was run by one small group of terrorists, not by all Muslims... the same as the exam was failed by the one kid, not all of the kids.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Did anyone hear me say all Muslims are bad?! No! They can practice their worship elsewhere

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I totally agree! They can worship somewhere else thats not going to be so disrespectful to all the people who lost a loved one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You must be really ignorant to the fact that over 300 Muslims died that day too, smart ass.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Like BeaverFever said, Hitler killed about 3 million people. He was a Catholic.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I understand how people are upset with the mosque being built, I really do. 9/11 was terrible and I wish it never happened. But that doesn't mean that all Muslims are evil. Most of them aren't, and I think they shouldn't be descriminated against because of what a few extremists did.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well I believe muslims have the right to have a mosque. I just don't think there should be one close to where the twin towers were. That just seems disrespectful . It's like putting a swastika sign right next to a concentration camp.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you I completely agree! I mean show all of these dead innocent people some flipping respect!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Except it's not that close to it, it's a few blocks away, and there's a strip club and an adult store a hell of a lot closer than the mosque will be. The kind of people those attract are a lot more dangerous than the people the mosque will attract... but nobody gives a damn because they're too busy being afraid of a type of people they refuse to speak to.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its not that I am afraid of the people it will attract. It's not like "terrorists" would go close to where the twin towers were just because there is a mosque. I just think we should respect all of the people who gave up there lives for others on 9/11.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who gave their lives for who? Because I'm pretty sure the people who were the most willing to give their lives for another were the people flying the plane. Would you mind rephrasing?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The firefighters/police men helping the people in the twin towers...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Nazis were an extremist group, like Al-Qaeda. If they were building an Al-Qaeda monument near Ground Zero, I would have a problem with that. But they're not. We don't hate on Germany because of WW2, and we shouldn't discriminate against Muslims because of 9/11.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yea I understand your point. We shouldn't hate on muslims, but I just don't think it is right to put a mosque "a few blocks away." Again, I think it is a respect thing. Well now that I think about it, maybe you are right. Its not an Al-Qaeda monument. Hmmm.. I must think this over...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yeah thanks for comparing us Muslims to Nazis. That's such a fair comparison.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This post is so true. There are roughly 1 billion Muslims in the world, only a TINY fraction are extremists, so saying religion and terrorism are synonymous basically rules 1/6 of our planet's population to be terrorists. Those people aboard that plane did NOT stand for any of Islam's principles. Those who disagree with this post should understand that this is America, and in America we have the first amendment which grants us religious freedom. Denying a certain group of people their rights to build a place of worship would ultimately destroy America's freedom. So whatever happens, happens. Excellent analogy to the OP though.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You are 100% correct. And thank you :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think that putting a mosque so close to the twin towers is VERY disrespectful. It's quite disgusting to think about actually whoever thinks it's acceptable has some serious issues. I think it's fine to give them a place to worship and celebrate their religion but the location seriously needs to be re-thought. I think it was very disrespectful to post this. I was personally effected by 9/11, I knew a woman who was killed in the attack and you should really think about what you say before you say it. 2,740 Americans were killed on 9/11, and 236 animals. And whatever asshole said that the hijackers were the ones who were the ones most willing to risk their lives clearly didn't think about the police men, fire fighters and the people who stayed back to help others get out and wound up dying as a result.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with you that 9/11 was horrible and that the policemen and firefighters were the real heroic ones, but I still feel that Muslims have as much right to worship wherever they please as any other religion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

YES EXACTLY! I don't understand people who are for this mosque. Are you even American? Irony understand who would be so disrespectful as to agree that these Muslims should build a mosque right near ground zero.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, I'm American. I live in New England, right next to New York. Look, you have different opinons than I do, and I'm accepting that fact. I don't think of you as any less of a person because of that. I just think that Muslims as a whole shouldn't be punished for what a few people did.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes I am not saying Muslims are awful or anything. And thank you for being respectful about both of our opinions and realizing we think differently. Unlike your friend Pepper who wrote a nasty message on my wall. >_<

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry that you were offended, but I can only be responsible for my actions. And thank you as well for not sending me hate mail or something like that :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Haha no I'm just stating my opinion just like everyone else on amirite. No hate mail.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Look, it doesn't matter if you're American, Indian, or Lebanese. The outcome doesn't change; Muslims have the right to worship where ever they want, when ever they want, just like Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. Those extremists who crashed into the World Trade Center weren't Muslims, they were horrible people who happened to be Muslim. It's not disrespectful. The only thing disrespectful about this entire situation is the misconception of Islam.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Haha ok they weren't Muslim, they just happened to be Muslim. You are confused

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How so? Because I'm educated rather than close-minded? That I know there are two sides to a story? That rather than judging an entire race upon the acts of a handful of extremists makes me confused? Oh, I think you're the confused one. And also, it's a sure sign that someone's losing an argument when they start making personal attacks.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh gosh I'm done with this. I've argued with too many people about this and honestly I don't care what you're saying because you are never going to change my mind and I will never change yours. Have fun at your mosque 2 blocks from ground zero you cold hearted jerk.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Alright, I'll be the bigger person here and stop fighting with you. You clearly aren't worth my time, much less any one else's. There's no need to get all butt hurt because of a mosque which poses no threat to America. And I think we all know who won here.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Me

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And I'm the confused one? ;)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No way I'm a swimmer too! See we have things on common let's not discuss this any longer

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Don't insult me, mock my theories and then expect me to forgive you because we have something in common. I kicked your ass, end of story.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Dude, seriously get over yourself you kicked no one's ass.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Silly humans. This is so trivial. My PLANET was blown up. You're complaining about a building being built. Pfft

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Get over myself? Now why would I do that? Please elaborate. No, seriously, do. Every time I ask you to explain yourself you never do, you just insult me, which is a very poor technique if I might add. I clearly destroyed you out there, if that isn't evidence enough, how about you take a look at your comment ratings vs. mine? Needless to say, your ass was kicked. I believe this conversation is over.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ok everybody

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You support violating the first amendment "because you are American" and anyone who supports one of the main ideas this country was founded on "isn't American". Amazing.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

omg get this fucking idea through your thick head: Who killed that "woman" you know wasn't a muslim, he CLAIMS to be one. Real muslims who are afraid of God, and actually are reading and listening to the Quran won't do such an act. It is unacceptable.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@557370 (Anonymous): The reason this Muslim Community Center is being built is to show that American Muslims are not terrorists.They're not saying "l0l fuck you America, look what we did to your little towers!!!1!shift" This is not in any way disrespectful to the victims of 9/11. The only people who believe that it's disrespectful are misinformed and misconceived. This is a great thing, because Muslim and Terrorist have been synonymous for too long thanks to the media. This is seriously such a non-issue it's not even funny.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...but you can't help but feel like they're building it just to prove a point :( they guy that organized it wants to be Islam's ruler? But I'm glad Donald Trump offered on the land to end the drama.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's simply disrespectful to all the people who lost their lives that day, whether it be the firefighters, people who worked in the towers, or those on the planes that were hijacked. It is also disrespectful to those who lost loved ones that day and are still to this day trying to cope with the pain of that loss. Your analogy no holds truth and the two examples do not correspond whatsoever. Any American who thinks that this mosque good idea is not thinking of any of those brave people who risked and lost their lives trying to save fellow Americans. Shame on you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

See my comment, (#557183)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In what way is it disrespectful? A group of extremist Muslims committed the act of 9/11, not every Muslim in the world. You see tons of churches in Europe, even though it was terrorized by one Adolf Hitler, a Catholic man. So is it not disrespectful to build churches in Europe, even though millions died by Christian hands during World War 2?

by Anonymous 12 years ago

They can build a mosque there. By the first amendment they're allowed to. Its just that if they want to build an 11 story mosque with restaurants, pools, libraries, and other stuff for 100 million dollars, then i start to get mad. Just a few blocks away from 9/11

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Can we build a Japanese culture center by Pearl Harbor?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hahaha exactly!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That was done by the Japanese military, not a group of religious extremists... Myth Busted

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hi

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thank you for your insightful input, sistaa frieenndddd :P

by Anonymous 13 years ago

your very welcome complete stranger that i dont know at all

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh, yes, your very welcome, person who I have never met before ;)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

did you know that when the muslim religon was being established, building a mosque was a sign of conquering a place. depending on how you interprate it, its like saying they conqured ground zero on nine eleven

by Anonymous 13 years ago

i was mid sentence typing that when you posted that

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I didn't know that. I guess if you look at it that way, building the mosque is a bit like a slap in the face to America. However, I don't think that's the reason why the mosque is being built.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Welcome to the 21st Century, which, believe it or not, is in fact, -not-, the year 600, and things do have a tendency to change over the course of 1,400 years.@557636 (nxtseason3):

by Anonymous 13 years ago

SYMBOLISM. and as i said, it depends on how you interpret it. don't get your panties in a bunch, damn.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

To be fair, we've been putting ground zeros all around their mosques.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Very true

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Except the plans were around before 9/11

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I just don't understand why he wants to put a mosque RIGHT THERE. Yes, I know it is not exactly on Ground Zero, but it's close enough to upset people. Why couldn't he find a farther place from where 9/11 happened? I think if you asked all those whose children, husbands, or wives died what they thought, the majority would be uncomfortable with it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree that it would've been less of a hassle and caused less controversy to build the mosque farther away, but I do think that they have the right to build it wherever they want.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I understand where you're coming from, honestly, I do. As human beings, we tend to be biased and judgemental. If it was a Christian church, I don't think it would even make headlines.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes, it would. All involved would be called heroes.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

A lot of people aren't mad because it's a place of worship, it's because it's so close to Ground Zero. I have to question the common sense of whoever thought of this idea. Why does it HAVE to be so close to where people were killed? Couldn't they just put it somewhere else and avoid this whole problem? Did building a mosque 2 blocks from Ground Zero honestly sound like a good idea?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Its kind of hard to find a lot to build on in New York. I'm not even an earthling and I know that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Some people oppose it, because the name they are giving the mosque, is from a historical event(a document I think) in which Muslims had to return land they had conquered, back to Europe. They believe that Muslims in the middle east (not all, but many) will see it as a victory over infidels, by having a stake there, and that the name of the mosque symbolizes them taking back territory that was taken from them by the infidels.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, and gay used to mean happy, bitch used to mean female dog, and an ass used to be a donkey. Meanings change, darlin'.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not just a simple word, it was a specific name, specific to the event that occured.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I just remembered, the name they're giving the mosque comes from the name of a city the Muslims conquered in Spain, where they converted the cathedral into a mosque.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay. I don't think anything should be built on Ground Zero. No Mosque, no Catholic Church, no Baptist Church, no Temple. It is the site of an American tragedy and should be treated with reverance.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So, because I'm a gay man, and some people who happen to be Christian, have been extremely rude to me in the past, does that mean I get to hate on every Christian? No.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not about religious freedom, it's about being respectful to those who died. Is there a Japanese museum at Pearl Harbor? An American center at Hiroshima? No, of course not. It's the same thing here.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They're not building a tribute to Al-Qaeda on Ground Zero, it's a mosque 2 blocks away. I really don't think they're trying to disrespect what happened on 9/11

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There is something close to that in Hiroshima. An American history museum. And Christians have churches in places where they slaughtered hundreds and even thousands of people. Catholics too.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It's not actually a mosque, and it's pretty far from Ground Zero. "Cordoba House, as it’s known, is a proposed Islamic cultural centre, which, in addition to a prayer room, will include a basketball court, restaurant, and swimming pool. Its aim is to improve inter-faith relations. It’ll probably also have comfy chairs and people who smile at you when you walk in, the monsters. To get to the Cordoba Centre from Ground Zero, you’d have to walk in the opposite direction for two blocks, before turning a corner and walking a bit more.The journey should take roughly two minutes, or possibly slightly longer if you’re heading an angry mob who can’t hear your directions over the sound of their own enraged bellowing." Charlie Brooker | ‘Ground Zero mosque’? The reality is less provocative http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/charlie-brooker-ground-zero-mosque?CMP=twt_gu

by Anonymous 13 years ago

not all muslims are bad and they have their rights. but please take it somewhere else, folks. its like making out in front of your ex or putting a gun shop next to a cemetary. legal, yes. respectful? no.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Im a canadian muslim and while i do not believe that by building a mosque, muslim community is tryin to insult the rest of U.S.A. And they have every legal right to do so, i just believe they should stop with the whole thing and find another place that is a bit far than this from ground zero. Only because there is alot of ppl in the community who do not agree with it or are comfortable , and at the end of the day, we all gotta live together and the more we learn to compromise for one another, the more happier we will all end up

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You guys know it's an Islamic center, not a mosque and that the plans to build it were approved by new York 8 year ago

by Anonymous 13 years ago

wow people its a fucking place of worship , not a flag saying we killed people. we do respect the people who died in 9/11 and putting a building up close to ground zero to let completely innocent people worship has NO relation at all to giving the people respect who died. grow the fuck up .

by Anonymous 13 years ago

and no, we don't put a japanese cultural center near Pearl Harbor, but if we wanted to put up buildings for worship that is popular among japanese, than that's just fucking fine . get over yourselves .

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0&feature=player_embedded

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But why build it so close? They're basically building a victory mosque.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

People say it's not a big deal for them to build it; then it shouldn't be a big deal to move it!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm all for that if anyone could find another empty lot in new york...That's worth the same amount

by Anonymous 13 years ago