So do I, but people tend to focus more on what happens within their own country. They may be shocked or appalled at what happens in other countries but dates/details aren't as sharp as those that happened within their own borders.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I really hope you mean the fact that Gaza is bombing Israel and hiding behind their children instead of facing the Israeli soldiers like real men.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hiding behind their children? Do you truly swallow media lies that easily? How many Israelis were killed? 13. How many men, women and children were killed? over a thousand. That's not defense. That's slaughter. There is absolutely no excuse for that. Why is Israel's safety more important than Palestine's?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you serious? I don't listen to the media, although due to your information I'm willing to bet you do. I'm Jewish. And us Jews stand with Israel. Israel has been supporting Gaza for years. They didn't even have to give the Arabs Gaza at all. But they did.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So basically you're saying because you're Jewish, you will defend Israel even if they're killing innocent children? I'm Egyptian, Muslim and Arab. I don't care if you're Jewish but I care that you think this is all right. My country shares borders with Palestine, so no, I don't hear this from the media, I get it directly from the source. "They didn't have to give the Arabs Gaza at all" - I'm aware Palestenians have made political mistakes that cost them most of THEIR country (note, PALESTINE belongs to the PALESTINians) but it was still THEIR country. Israel simply barged in and took it, then killed their civilians. Arabs have a right to Gaza. They have a RIGHT to Palestine.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Um, no. I'm saying that because I'm more involved in it, I'm more likely to seek out the truth instead of taking media by face value. And Israel is most definitely not killing any innocent children. They refuse to bomb the schools that the Arabs are HIDING in because they don't want to hurt kids. Arabs do NOT have a right to Palestine. If you looked at history, you'd see that the Israelies have attempted to make several peace compromises and the Palestinians have broken every one. And if you're going to be immature, I refuse to have a discussion with you. Do you know what an ad hominem is?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

How am I being immature? I'm simply making my point. And no, I don't know what ad hominem is, care to translate that? Arabs /do/ have a right to Palestine. If you look at history, you'll see that Palestine has been an Arab country for a very, very, very long time, long before Israel had any claim to it. Like I said, I'm aware Palestinians have made many bad political decisions, though. I'm not saying they're guiltless, but the innocent civilians are. "The schools Arabs are hiding in" - I'm sorry. Why should the Arabs even be hiding? It was their country. Don't they have every right to defend it, if the seige on Gaza was part of a "war?" And by the way - they DID destroy the schools nobody was hiding in. How else did you think a thousand people died? Schools, mosques, homes, buildings. All rubble now. How is that JUSTIFIED?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

An ad hominem is when you attack a person or a group of people instead of their argument. And immature is starting a fight on a post online. I posted my opinion, but you felt the need to reply and start something which I honestly don't have the patience to continue. Arabs do have a right to Israel. They do NOT have a right to attempt to kick out anyone else. The Jews have been around for a very long time, and our religion started there. And Jews have definitely been around longer than Arabs. The only reason innocent civilians are getting harmed is because the Arab soldiers are hiding behind them. The Arabs have been viciously bombing the Jews for a while now. Of course the Israelis are going to respond! It was the Israeli's country too. And the Arabs are not defending, they're attacking. I refuse to have this conversation any longer. We obviously disagree, and there's completely no point arguing about it. Feel free to continue to provoke me. But I'm out.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry if I made you feel as though I was attacking you personally. I was just upset because of what you think happened, hiding behind their children. It's just not true. Its not fair that so many people get murdered and its somehow being excused. I replied because I made the post, and because I thoroughly disagreed with what you were saying. That said, I will agree to disagree civilly enough. I have nothing against you, just against what you believe is right. Jews have not been around longer than Arabs. The first Jews were Arabs (well, Egyptian, to be precise.) There were Arabs living in Palestine when they went there and they continued living there throughout history. This isn't Jews/Arabs. Don't make it racial or religious because this is purely political. Its Palestenians/Israelis. I have nothing against Jews. My anger is directed towards Zionist movements. "Viciously bombing" is an exaggeration. For every Israeli that dies, 20 Palestenians do.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well, Gaza was bombing Israel, unprovoking, killing, destroying eproperty, inconvenienceing and scaring people, ect. israel reacted a bit to strongly, but atleast they were provoked. both sides lost people

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Gaza was bombing Israel because they were blockaded, oppressed, and because ITS THEIR COUNTRY. Perhaps everyone else has accepted that Israel now owns it, but why should the Palestinians? They never supported it, they never wanted it to happen, and they're not supposed to roll over and take it. Any other country would have done the same. Besides, it's a war, isn't it? Otherwise what Israel did would be unexcused terrorism. I'll agree that both sides lost people, though. And I'll agree that Palestine should have made smarter choices. They've definitely made mistakes. But Israel's reaction was horrific.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

they didn't roll over and take it... 11 minutes after israel declared independence, 5 neighboring countries invaded. israel fought hard for the land, and its not like theyre selfish with it. theres a mosque near the western wall, for example. and i think that israel is divided into, like, israeli and arab lands, or something likethat. im sorry if they never supported it, doesnt mean they have to fire rockets at israel. and why should it be a war?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Because someone came INTO THEIR COUNTRY and just took it as though they weren't there! Then they started destroying their homes and killing their children! Why wouldn't they fight back? And yeah, Israel was attacked. Because the Arabs had never supported its being there. Why are all other countries allowed to defend themselves without being called terrorists and bombers? However, I agree that there should never be war in the first place. It doesn't fix anything. But I find it appalling that people are supporting the murderers in this war rather than the victims.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"I was just upset because of what you think happened, hiding behind their children. It's just not true. " well the normal routine when it's discovered weapons is to destroy the building that they're contained in, for any country. hamas hides weapons in places such as hospitals and schools. israel obviously doesn't want to hurt innocent patients and children. but if they don't destroy the weapons, they will be used against them. either way, they're screwed. yeah, i call that hiding behind your children.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, but how do you know that's true? The media wasn't allowed into Gaza because it was "too dangerous" (obviously not for the dead civilians.) If Israel hadn't wanted to hurt innocent patients and children, they wouldn't have. They wouldn't have broken international laws and used phospohorous bombs in a civilian area. Palestine's weapons are mediocre and hardly a threat (again, death tolls?). Besides, why is Israeli safety more important than Palestine's safety? That's a bit prejudiced, isn't it? Again, they killed a thousand men, women and children in cold blood. If you think that's excusable because of a couple of home-made rockets that people defending their country (patriotism, loyalty, anyone?) are using, then I really worry about your judgement. There's a fine line between war and savagery, and Israel crossed it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Before destroying any building, there is a warning to evacuate. Hamas doesn't let the people evacuate said building.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry, you've been misinformed. That's not true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

care to prove me wrong?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I would, but I'm not sure you'd listen. Take it from me, its a blatant lie told by the Israeli government to excuse their disgusting actions. Research it thoroughly - ask people who don't follow American broadcasts. Perhaps try AlJazeera for research.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

"Israel has been supporting Gaza for years. They didn't even have to give the Arabs Gaza at all. But they did." My history might be a little hazy but wasn't Israel created by land taken from Arabs and given to the Jews (without Palestinian consent) by the U.N. (mainly Britain) in order to give the Jew's a homeland after the Holocaust? So technically it is Palestinian land, which is why i think most Palestinians dislike Israeli's.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What's gaza?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

eh, point proven.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's kinda sad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It doesn't have anything to do with equality. It has to do with personal association. Americans [I realize you said "everyone" not "Americans"] would be more likely to be affected by 9/11 than Gaza because it happened to us. Directly or indirectly, nearly every American would say they were affected. Most Americans were not affected by Gaza. Yes, we heard about it. And yes, it was terrible. But it wasn't personal. This post is kind of like saying, if my sister and I are equal, why do I have more fond memories of my prom than hers?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's fair enough. But I /did/ say everyone, though. People around the world are forced to remember 9/11, have it thrown at them from every angle, constantly thrown at us as the biggest tragedy that has occured. I just wanted to point out there's been more than one tragedy, and Gaza was far more recent. Perhaps America shouldn't pay attention to it, but the rest of the world should.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Gush Katif- Yehudi lo migaresh yehudi. You have problems with the israeli government, so do I. The problem is they let the palestinians feel like they're at home and they take advantage. If you can't sit nicely in someone else's country and behave yourself then get the fuck out. Israel has no obligation to give the palestinians any rights. The reason there are so many problems still is only because Israel is too fucking soft.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hmm, you're right. If you can't sit nicely in someone else's country and behave yourself then get the fuck out. Israel should get the fuck out then. (LOL, being too soft? Sweetie, were you raised by Hitler?)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

None of this is justified. 9/11 was wrong. The siege on Gaza was wrong. All of the hatred and animosity in the world is wrong. God never wanted this way of life for us. He would not want us to kill eachother in His name. We were made to love and accept one another. The time for this world to end will be soon if no one can live in peace.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thats very true. Well said.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Fuk gazaa let all the muslims nd terrorists burnn aliveee u guys have killed our normal lives if not for u 9/11 would have never happened

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... please be trolling. If yeah, all right. If not - erm, have fun in Texas! I hear they have large portions over there.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

fagget go barefoot and bow down in front of some other guys ass durin ur prayers makin believe u guys are religious while making bombs nd flyin planes into buildings killing innocent people

by Anonymous 13 years ago

*sigh* a) I'm a girl b) Repeat after me. Not all Muslims are terrorists.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The land did not belong to them any more then to the jews. It was under the British at the time. The entire fucking world decided to give them the country a long fucking time ago. Stop crying over losing something that was never yours. And yes, I was raised by hitler yimach shemo. I was raised by the people whose lives were destroyed by him. What I learnt from the holacaust survivors in my life is to never get too comfortable where you are or make allowances that would help people take advantage. I don't care who Israel belongs to. I just want to live there in peace, as do majority of the citizens. Nobody wants to fight. Nobody likes having their bus blown up on the way to the kotel. You have no idea what the average israeli will go through in their own fucking neighborhood.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

And do you have any idea what the average Palestinian will go through in their own fucking country? Its been their country for centuries. And now they don't even have the right to it. It was not occupied by the British, just "under the rule" in vague terms. They gave away something that was never theirs, why should its citizens simply accept that? The UN is supposedly powerless, and yet in this case it let the bigger countries have their way because it was convenient. "The entire fucking world" shouldn't have had a say because it was none of their business. And shouldn't surviving the Holocaust make you understand suffering? So why are you inflicting it on others, then? You've gone from being victims to being murderers. Besides, before the Zionists decided to "own" Palestine, Jews and Palestinians were living there peacefully, side by side. It was only when they decided to take it on their own terms, not expecting any resistance, that it became a war.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Soldiers hiding behind children? Israel having rights to Palestine? Texashick not a troll? All bullshit. All I have to say is that this was all started after million of displaced jews who got buttfucked by Hitler were dumped in Palestine by the Brits. The PALESTINIANS own PALESTINE.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

YES! Thank you!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Do you have any idea where the term 'palestinians' came from. The country of Palestine has nothing to do with the palestinians of today. The arabs ruled at some point just like everyone else did at some point in history. I know many many Israeli people. In fact, I will be moving there in under a month. These are warm loving people who would not do anything to harm anyone. I cannot argue this with you because you have no interest in listening. The fact is that if the palestinians would leave everyone alone then the israelis would not start up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The Israeli people, perhaps, but have you considered the Israeli army? And no, the Arabs have been in that land since oh, about ... 1000 BC or so? Before Jerusalem, before everything. And they were occupied by many people, but the original tribes living there have ALWAYS been Arab. Get your info right.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The Israeli army is made up of a bunch of Israeli people, many of them in their teens and early twenties. They join the army for the same reasons the Americans join the army- to defend their country. Are they all perfect people? No. Are they resposible for mistakes made by the government? Absolutely not. The government wants peace and I know that you find that hard to believe because from your point of view it's hard to see. We will not argue who the land belongs to because what you consider bad decisions from seventy years ago already happened and those people are not around anymore. The only reasons the palestinians are getting more hurt than the israelis is because the israelis are better at it. They have been persecuted for longer. Say what you want but the earliest written record of civilization in Israel was all jewish. The palestinians would have no problems if they would stop starting up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... the first Jews were Arabs in the first place! Yeah, the Israelis are definitely better at murder. If the Israeli government wanted peace, they would get peace. They want land and power, don't try to pretend otherwise. As for the Israeli army - I feel sorry for the people who joined it. They've become cruel, heartless monsters who have the blood of innocent people on their hands. Enjoy your Israeli suburbia. I wonder how you can all stand living their knowing your borders are lined with dead children whose grandfathers, great-grandfathers and great-great grandfathers had lived there their whole lives in peace until you came along. Just saying. It makes me sick how you have no sympathy for these people. And you wonder why they can't stand having you on their land? You're inhuman. I'd say you deserve every pitiful rocket headed your way, but then again, I'm not as cruel as you are.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Some day, in another lifetime, maybe we can argue this face to face. I will not stoop to this.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

... stoop to arguing in writing? xP But that's fair enough. I just hope you have more of an idea of why they hate you now. Just try thinking about it once in a while. If you feel the teeniest bit guilty, you're not an entirely lost cause as a nation.

by Anonymous 13 years ago