+308 What is the problem with Obama not being American born, I mean, George Washington isn't American born either, amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I thought the law was that if you aren't born in the US, you can't run for president? I'm not that great in 8th grade US history/Constituation, so i might be wrong. But I do believe he's american born.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yes he is, Virginia born and raised on the playground is where he spent most of his days chillin out, maxin, relaxing all cool.... Does that answer your question?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Relaxing old school...?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obama is american born. Hawaii is part of the 50 states. Also, he wouldn't be able to run for president if he wasn't a US BORN citizen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's what the controversy is about. People aren't sure about his birth certificate. I won't give my opinion, but that's what people think.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They can't find his birth certificate. How do they know if he is American born? Thats the controversy no one has seen it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, well I'm not sure if bush was smart enough to run for presidency.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, but you don't need to be smart to run for president, do you?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

well, i guess if you want to ruin the country, i guess not.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He would be able to run for President without proving his citizenship. Obama has managed to successfully spend 2 years in office without ever proving his citizenship. In fact, he's paid millions in lawsuits to keep from having to talk about his proof of citizenship. Look it up, even if you don't think it's true. Find out about both sides of the story.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He's shown his birth certificate already, but people like you feign blindness I guess.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are some that believe the certificate is fake.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(J.): Why? No other's president's certification has come under such bizarre scrutiny.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Where can I see it? Honestly. I'm not being a bitch. I'd like to see it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp That article explains the whole thing, with links to the certificate.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Okay, first off, he is American born. Second, "isn't"should be "wasn't" in regards to George Washington, as he's dead.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Who told you Obama wasn't born in America, OP? Our constitution makes it a requirement when running for president.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

As I said above, Obama has never proved he's an American citizen - in fact he has spent millions in lawsuits trying to keep people from prying into the details of his birth.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Also, it's not a requirement to be born in the US. You have to be a US citizen. So technically you could be born elsewhere in the world to American parents and still be a citizen. John McCain, for example, wasn't born in the US, and is a citizen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I looked it up and it said you have to be born a u.s citizen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Citizen, yes. Born in the US, no. It's a minor discrepancy, but you can be born elsewhere and still be a natural citizen.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

You don't have to be born in the United States. If your under a certain age when your parents become naturalized you can run for president as well.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Haha George Washington was born in Virginia....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

most of the early presidents were born in GB.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hmm? I just looked it up before posting it, I'm pretty sure it said he was born in Virginia

by Anonymous 13 years ago

...And Virginia was a british colony then. America didn't exist, so he wasn't american born.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He was American born but I don't see why that should be an issue when he seems to make it clear he hates the U.S.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He did? When?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He has none of our interest in mind,

by Anonymous 13 years ago

What exactly is, "our interest"?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He does have America's interests in mind. It's just hard to see it that way, because he's busy cleaning up an 8 year mess.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I wasn't a HUGE fan of Bush, but it wasn't all Bush's fault. Clinton set him up for disaster. And before people say, "HE HAD A SURPLUS!! BUSH GOT US INTO DEBT!", you have to keep in mind- In the roaring 20s, everyone APPEARED to be rich. The stock market policies made it possible to have a surplus. However, when people didn't/couldn't pay the bank back [in the 30s], we crashed. In Clinton's presidency, he initially started the whole banks-can-give-loans-to-people-who-obviously-won't-be-able-to-pay-them thing, and it seemed like people were all fine and dandy, there was a surplus, and it crashed during Bush's presidency. Granted, Bush didn't help much, but he isn't fully to blame. Technically, then, it was a 12 year mess.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ohhh you mean the war that every single person in congress voted for, that also included the Democratic party? And Obama has a lower popularity rate than Bush ever did

by Anonymous 13 years ago

im not just talking about the war... im talking about deficit, racial profiling, the Patriot Act, making the U.S. the laughingstock of the world, the 4.9 million more Americans living in poverty than there were in 2000...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

just to name a few

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yes and his stimulus plan is REALLY working great, talk to me in 50 years when you have to social security because he keeps spending money we don't have. Unless the heath care reform passes and you're one of the people that decides to never get a job and just sits on their ass but still gets heath insurance. He couldn't even put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. THAT should make us a laughingstock

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you fucking retarted?!? "Obama has lower approval ratings then Bush ever did." The lowest it was ever estimated to be was 45%. Bush sunk to the low 20's. Seriously, STFU if you don't know what you're talking about.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmao,...well how do you ReLe know he was born in the US? There's enough corruption in the government to cover that up

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was there.... I actually delivered him....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Lmao yeah okk;)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

how do you "ReLe" know anything we read is true? How do you "ReLe" know independence day was July 4, 1776?? You're really opening up a can of worms with that one.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I can answer the 2nd question with confidence- Because that's when the Declaration of Independence was signed. It says, ON THE DOCUMENT, "July 4th, 1776". So.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

They could have lied.... When ever I did my homework the day it was due, I always put the date from the night it was assigned so it doesn't make me look like the procrastinator I am....

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The Declaration didn't have a due date, though. And what would they gain from saying they were independent a few days earlier?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh it didn't? Check again my friend, check again!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obama's birth certificate was signed. and dated as well. According to anonymous' logic, dates are worthless my friend.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'll vote when it matters to throw out Carter Part 2 - such as the upcoming midterms and in 2012.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

its in the constitution that the president has to be born in the u.s. obama was. i mean, they don't just let anyone run for president

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He was born in Hawaii, the problem is that supposedly Hawaii wasn't a part of the states at the time? Idk how true that is I'm just repeating what my teacher said. I'm too lazy to look it up.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

FYI- the debate exists because Obama has not actually proved he was born in Hawaii. He hasn't shown his birth certificate, only a lesser version of it (forgot what it's called). Some people believe he was born in Kenya because his mother was there around the time of his birth. His father is Kenyan. Also, he may have given up his right to US citizenship around age 10 when he moved to the Philippines with his family and became a naturalized citizen. The laws at the time did not allow dual citizenship; he would have forfeited his American citizenship.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hawaii has been a state since 1959. I'm pretty sure Obama isn't' 51, so that's not it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is why trolling is so fun...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Actually, George Washington WAS born in the US. And it says in the Constitution that the president has to be born in America, so if George hadn't been born here, he wouldn't have been president. And if Obama is paying lawyers thousands of dollars to keep his birth records hidden, wouldn't you think he has something to hide? Hate to sound like a Conspiracy Theorist, but it's true.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think what the OP is saying is that it wasn't "America" when Washington was born here. Also, the Constitution says you have to be a citizen, not born here. And I completely agree with your last point :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you have to be born here ! Some random Chinese person can't be president just cause he's a citizen

by Anonymous 13 years ago

It is found in the Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. This means two American citizens could have a baby while living abroad or in a territory or jurisdiction of the US; this person could legally become US president.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

If you are born in Korea, and come here and become a citizen, you CANNOT be the president But if you leave, have a kid and come back you, your kid CAN.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said a foreign person could become President. I said you have to be a natural citizen. No, a foreign-born, non-natural US citizen can not be president.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

John McCain wasn't born in the US (he was born in Panama)- he ran for President.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

But did he win ? NO Would he have died in office ? YES

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry, but how is that relevant to this conversation? Where McCain was born has nothing to do with him winning or dying. I was only giving an example of someone who is a citizen, but born abroad.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Hey, genius, he was born in Virginia, ! and they were already calling themselves Americans by then !

by Anonymous 13 years ago

maybe Obama isn't 35 yet.... So he doesn't want people to see what year he was really born (o.O) or MAYBE he isn't even human, and came from a different solar system..... I guess it's only a matter of time 'till we find out =D

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(....ó_õ.....): All good theories! haha! I appreciate your humor =) Or it could be that he's from the future... hmm...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

1) You MUST be american born to run for president 2) George Washington was born in virginia

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it wasn't america back then.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just saying the constitution actually said you have to be a natural born citizen OR been present at the signing of the constitution...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

he's black.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

George Washington grew marijuana on his plantation too, no fucking joke.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

that was pre prohibition though...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No one would ask to see bush's birth certicficate because hes white and you all just assume. problems with obama is all because of skin color, so much for america being a melting pot if he stands out and is accused in such way.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

@642621 (Anonymous): It's not just because of skin color. Bush's family is a prominent American family (like them or not) and have been for years. They can prove they are American citizens. I'm sure they DID prove they were American citizens. I believe (would hope) that the President goes through many many background checks, etc, to prove his citizenship. Obama's family is less well known. There is some uncertainty about where his family was when he was born. The fact that is mother is no longer alive only adds to it - she cant make a statement one way or another. Also his family makes contradictions about where exactly he was born in Hawaii. So it's all just a little weird.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

HE'S FROM FUCKIN HIAWII RETARDS!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

(A nan o miss): It's "Hawaii" retard!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well sorryyy

by Anonymous 13 years ago

last time i checked hawaii was in america. sorry i know everyone has said this but i feel like it needs to be repeated..:)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

they wouldnt let him run for president if he hadnt shown it

by Anonymous 13 years ago

He hasn't shown it, he's done everything in his power NOT to let people see his birth certificate for some reason... seems suspicious to me... I've heard numerous times that he was born in Africa

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I've heard rumors that he was born on a military base in Africa as well, however even if it was a military base, that counts as being born of the USA

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree with your post, just want to point out that, since Obama was born to an American woman in Africa, he could have natural citizenship through his mother.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Obama was born in the USA and is not Muslim. He was born in Hawaii and is a registered member of the Church of Christ. He does smoke however, which is going to stink up the Whitehouse

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The main thing is, none of the other politicians are causing a fuss over it, it is only the right winged media spreading these rumours, and you know how reliable they are.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

To everyone else who don't believe he presented his birth certificate: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Haha, see, I think when people assume that the Constitution is up for interpretation, they need to include everything in it. For example, the US born part was put into place so that an angry Brit couldn't take control of the States and put us back under the king's reign. Therefore, it's outdated. Any part of the US Constitution can be argued for any defense, ever.

by Anonymous 13 years ago