I hope nobody who reads this assumes that I'm not religious or anti-religion.. I'm not.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

no, your post is great. I couldn't have said it better myself.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Nice.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i am a christian, but i also am greatly appalled by people who are pushy about their religion.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I think you need to consider the context of your words. Religion should most definitely NOT be put last. Many people seem to forget that this country WAS indeed founded on religion. Those who deny this need to go back to History 101. There is a large difference in seperating church and state and putting religion last. By all means, through the state, homosexuals should have the right to be married. But it also the right of the church to keep marriage sacred, or prevent homosexuals from being joined before God. If homosexuals want to be married, they should have the choice to be married through the state or government. Also, "no one should be able to tell me...because of beliefs" This is not confined to just religion, but to government and laws as well. So you should be able to steal, murder, and rape? Granted, there are plenty of religious nuts who need to tone it down. But please think about what you say before you say it.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I do agree that religion shouldn't come last. People will never be able to completely separate church and state anyway, since their own religion affects their decision. However, your logic of "So you should be able to steal, murder, and rape?" is completely stupid. What the OP was saying was based off RELIGIOUS beliefs. If they want to tell him he can't do something because it is against the law, then fine. But he is saying nobody should be able to tell him that he can't do something because God will hate him or that God says he can't. I know people that do that all the time, and it annoys me too. I understand what you were saying, that beliefs aren't just confined to religion, but in this instance he was confining it to religious beliefs. Maybe you should think about what you say before you say it, eh?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Author here. Yes, thank you, religious beliefs ONlY. And that's the point, isn't it? State comes before religion. If my religion told me that I should steal/murder/rape, I wouldn't be allowed--because it is against the law. This is exactly what I'm arguing. With the same logic, gays should be allowed to marry. " But it also the right of the church to keep marriage sacred, or prevent homosexuals from being joined before God." No, actually, it is not a right of the Church because that is what the Church believes and by constitution the Church is not allowed to force laws upon the state. Sure, this country was founded on religion. And that went well. But we are not as much of a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant country than we were 200 years ago. Religion is no longer commonly agreed upon; we can't force it on anyone, so consolidate it and stop putting it in front of the state.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

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by Anonymous 14 years ago

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by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yeah, I'm a christian, but I hate it when people try to shove their religion down people's throats. Like the people who stand outside concerts and tell everyone they're going to hell? Come on, we're supposed to show people why God is good, not scare everyone away from him.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

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by Anonymous 14 years ago

I disagree with your logic but I understand where you're coming from about people being pushy. My main point is...how come the only 'religion' you mention was Islam and Muslims? I find that extremely offensive. Did you forget the Christian missionaries that show up at your door? Or the Baha'i missionaries. Or the Buddhists or Jews or any other religion?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Author of the post speaking here. Look, the only reason the only religion mentioned was Islam was because Islam is currently today a good example. I actually believe myself (But I would not post this, seeing as it would offend a lot of people) that the Christian missionaries are worse. I have had Christians talk to me and tell me again and again that I am going to burn and suffer eternally in hell because I haven't accepted the words of Jesus Christ. Every single religion has crimes. There is no religion that at some point has not been at fault. So when I only mention Muslims- it's just an example. When I say religious nuts- every religion is at fault. It is debatable, however, that some religions are more at fault than others. For example, Judaism is not a missionary religion. Well, I hope that answered that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If that offends you,you are too easily offended

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well I cant help but notice that 70 people disagree with this yet only 7 or so had the balls to say why.... Really? Grow a pair. And I agree with the main message of what you said. But I'd say that you don't actually want all religion to be put last....just any religion that makes you uncomfortable. Because everyone has their own religion that they form based on what exactly it is that they believe. Im not trying to attack you with this either, I'm just saying that you might want to think what you're saying through a littlw bit more. Also on the homosexual marriag. The christian have reasons on why they dissagree with it. Homosexuals tend to have major psychological issues (wether they're aware of them or not) so we're notjust trying to be difficult. We have more of a problem with them being married just to cope with their prblems than the marriage itself

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Author here. "But I'd say that you don't actually want all religion to be put last....just any religion that makes you uncomfortable. " Definitely agree with that. Regardless of all its faults, religion has done some good in the world. And no, not everyone has their own religion. I know many, many people who follow the Bible, the Qur'an, the Torah, what have you, to the very letter. They aren't believe in what they believe in, they're believing in what they've been told. " Homosexuals tend to have major psychological issues (wether they're aware of them or not)" This is completely untrue. Where ever you heard it, it's a rumor, a bias, or something someone came up with to discriminate. Homosexuals have a chemical imbalance in the section of the brain that causes them to like men. As far as research shows, there are no other side effects. Certainly not "major psychological issues." That is no argument at all.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Personally, I think that religion serves no other purpose than to bring comfort to those who need it. I'm not formally Atheist or Christian, but the more that I think about it, the more I get annoyed with religion. Though it does create a sense of peace for some people, the greater impact of religion is war and tension between people. Most homophobics base their beliefs on gay/lesbian marriages being "against the Bible". Well, who is this God fellow to dictate to people who they should be attracted to? The holocaust existed because of religion. Extremists blew up the Twin Towers because of their extreme religious beliefs. The world would be a better place without any prejudice what-so-ever, and personally, I think that religion causes a great majority of that prejudice.

by Anonymous 13 years ago