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A suicide is never news worthy unless the 'victim' is gay or was cyber bullied. amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Or famous.
by Anonymous13 years ago
true true
by Anonymous13 years ago
If someone commits sucide, can you blame the victim?
by Anonymous13 years ago
Why do you say 'victim' like they're not a victim?
by Anonymous13 years ago
victim of their own stupidity
by Anonymous13 years ago
Even if they have a psychological problem, they aren't stupid
by Anonymous13 years ago
That's what I was thinking. Its a good post but I don't like how op did that.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I think the OP is saying that bullies might not be the cause of the suicide.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Not always but very often but even if it wasn't because of being bullied it could be because of family problems which you could be a *victim* of and all other kinds of things.
by Anonymous13 years ago
my point was that bullies aren't usually the cause of the suicide, usually more like an underlying psychological problem.
by Anonymous13 years ago
A lot of the time it is bullying though.
My moms bestfriend from high school had great parents, plenty of money, was fairly pretty, and very smart. She was bullied all through school because of how much she cared about her grades. The bullying was so bad that one she just decided she couldn't take it anymore and she killed herself. She had a great life but stupid harsh kids made her dread going to school everyday.
by Anonymous13 years ago
that sucks :( But i wasn't questioning the life of the person who killed themselves, more what mental health problems they may have had gone unseen cause normal people just don't kill themselves no matter how bad their life may suck.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Well ill have to respectfully disagree. I believe anyone normal or not whom is treated bad enough or has a hard enough life could end their lives.
by Anonymous13 years ago
would you consider yourself of normal mental health?
by Anonymous13 years ago
ha no.
by Anonymous13 years ago
then maybe you would kill yourself but us other sane people would stick it out in the hopes of a better future :P
by Anonymous13 years ago
lol no I'm not suicidal. Crazy maybe but still ill have to disagree with you even the most emotionally stable people could become suicidal.
by Anonymous13 years ago
lol, the terms suicidal and emotionally stable contradict in the strictest sense
by Anonymous13 years ago
I said *could become suicidal.
by Anonymous13 years ago
emotionally stable people can't just "become suicidal". that is a sigh of instability.
by Anonymous13 years ago
if something stable it *can* become unstable.
by Anonymous13 years ago
mentally speaking not until you're really old lol, unless you've had brain damage
by Anonymous13 years ago
haha ok well I'm just going to agree to disagree.
Ok with you?
by Anonymous13 years ago
damn str8 :P
by Anonymous13 years ago
I always thought this was unfair. I mean, obviously it is awful when these things happen, but every person who kills themselves has obviously has had an awful life. Either show 'em all on the news or none at all, amirite?
by Anonymous13 years ago
You don't have to have an awful life to want to kill yourself.
by Anonymous13 years ago
How the fuck does that work?
by Anonymous13 years ago
They are shown on the news because we are trying to stop bullying. All deaths are equally important, but people are trying to fight bullying and these deaths confirm how serious of a problem it is.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Or they offed themselves in a way that affected/inconvenienced a lot of people, such as jumping off a highway overpass.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Madoff's son.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Okay, if a person kills himself because he was being bullied for being gay, that's obviously indicative of a society-level prejudice, a modern-day racial discrimination.
If a person kills himself just because of simple depression, well, that isn't quite as newsworthy.
I don't think that a compassionate person should complain about gay suicides in the news, rather than the bullies who tormented said gay person.
by Anonymous13 years ago
The person doesn't even have to be gay to get bullied.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I agree but I hate your quotations on the word victim. If someone is bullied sooo badly that they want to kill themselves, they are a victim wether they kill themselves or not.
by Anonymous13 years ago
Depression can often lead to suicidal thoughts and actions. It can be genetic and not triggered by anything significant.
It can ALSO be caused by outside problems, like getting bullied.
Why these stories are news worthy is because this was not a problem that couldn't be avoided, like inheriting depression from a parent, which will always be there. This is caused by the environment that can be changed. I wouldn't say it's common, but more often than not it is someone who is already depressed/with an underlying problem that commits suicide. So when someone commits suicide because of something like bullying, it gets a lot of coverage. It's isn't coming from the inside of the victim. I mean, obviously the victim has inner problems with all the bullying going on, but it isn't something pre-wired in their brain.
(and no, I'm not saying if you are pre-wired to inherit depression you will get it and commit suicide)
by Anonymous13 years ago
I agree completely.
by Anonymous13 years ago
I believe you are a victim of your own consequences with suicide. I know tons of people who have shit lives and still wouldn't think twice about suicide. I understand its hard, but in no/way/shape/form are other people the "real" killers/precedent of suicide.
As for causes... Well that itself is slightly different, but nonetheless something you can doc away from suicide reasons (meaning ignore it, not care, etc.).
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