+337 Taking money away from people who are willing to work and then giving it to poorer people so everyone will be more even is so stupid. If I have a 4.0 in school, should I also be forced to give up 1.0 of my GPA so that a slacker with a 2.0 can be even with me? amirite?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The point behind the idea is for the billionaires to not make as much money and to give some to people who would like to work, but can't because of illness/injury/economy etc. So odds are, this doesn't apply to you. And if it does, I'm sorry you'll have to wait a few months to afford the pure gold shark tank to go with your bar. You have my sympathies.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was born with an extremely rare heart condition, and my medical bills cost upwards of fifteen million USD to date. So, this is a touchy subject. Taxes help people like me, to survive. I was supposed to be dead by the age of four, here I am typing to you on amirite my stance at the age of 21.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I never said there weren't some exceptions, but unfortunately many people take advantage of the system and make no attempt to fend for themselves. It's too bad, my dad fought hard to get out of relying on the government for everything. But he busted his ass to go to college and make a life. If someone has a medical condition and literally can't work, I get it. But I look at what my dad overcame, and it makes me sick when I see people who just take advantage of the money they receive from the government and do NOTHING to try and fix their lives.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So you're saying someone who has a disability that keeps them out of work shouldn't be given money to not die?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Look at my post, I said slackers. Someone with a birth defect or disability is not a slacker.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

About the main thing they're doing you just said poor people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Poor people are not all slackers! :O

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Neither of my parents can have a full time job due to disability. My Mom had a severe stroke that she almost died from this summer and were still paying of thousands of dollars in medical bills. (Even though the hospitals are screwing us over) My Dad can only work two days a week and all the rest of our income is disability checks. Just because we are "poor", doesn't mean we are lazy.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

There are cases like yours where it is needed. There are also cases where dumb shits sit at home and collect money because they're "poor". People that don't actually TRY to work are the people the OP targeted, not people like you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well not every case is as extreme as disability ones. But there is definitely an in between. Some people ARE trying hard and working hard, but they are still 'poor' cause life is just expensive-especially if you are in college.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

True enough. The key is knowing who is who, I suppose.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

The problem is that the theory of redistribution of wealth is good, but it doesn't work out practically. Yes, it would be great if we could start ending poverty by helping those who can't work. But when you force someone to give up what they've worked for and give it to someone who hasn't worked for it, the motivation to actually try hard is gone. People can't be forced to be charitable. And I think the generosity of the wealthy is underestimated- my school wouldn't exist without those who donate money.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Exactly! I think if successful people aren't forced to be charitable they will be, most of the time. And if they are forced to be, that means the government is doing it, and will be less efficient than if someone did it themself.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Your logic is flawed on so many levels. First, people who have low incomes aren't necessarily lazy and stupid - many have simply been born into awful situations, and they need help getting out of them, or simply to survive. How do you expect someone with your fantastic GPA to be able to afford college? Government grants, for one (in the US). In many other developed countries, it's mostly the government's responsibility to provide education through the taxes YOU provide. And you seem to think that the taxation system is just a way to transfer your income to people who aren't working when, in reality, most of that money doesn't go to welfare and programs of the like, but it goes towards infrastructure, defense, research and development, etc. So I don't know if you're proposing eliminating taxes or eliminating welfare programs/government grants/food stamps, etc... but both seem irresponsible to me.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Not all welfare is good. Often, international aid goes to the corrupt government officials who shoves it toward their third private jet instead of the suffering people.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Of course it's flawed, especially international aid. But do you suggest eliminating it entirely?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Pretty much, at least for countries that we know aren't getting to the people. Force them to adapt, one might say. Besides, foreign aid is not including private donations (which actually gets to the people most of the time). Foregin aid is taxes and crap like that.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Tanzania gets the most money per capita and they still can't form a stable economy. Aid doesn't always help if people aren't willing to try and correct their problems.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This is just one of those topics you can't bring fairness into. People who are rich and own there own companies should be able to do whatever they want with their money. They've worked for it and its theirs. But at the same time not all poor people are slackers and some should deserve a bit of help, especially if they have a disability. I don't think there's any right answer here, or at least if there is we haven't found it yet.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I agree that the distribution of wealth, even to a small degree, is unfair, but your example with grades is talking about Communism, which America doesn't have. So yes, slight distribution of wealth is unfair, but so is comparing it to full on Communism.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Well someone with a 4.0 gpa worked hard for it and deserves it, not all wealthy people earned their money by working for it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm not sure how anyone down-voted you.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

My dad earns a lot and he works day and night, but a lot of his money goes to taxes. That is very unfair.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't see what that has to do with what I said

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Crap. I didn't mean to post that as a response. Sorry.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Oh ok

by Anonymous 13 years ago

THANK YOU.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I thought of the same thing the other day. Also, I want to point out that the OP clearly said "slackers," meaning that he was not referring to persons with disabilities. He was talking about how he disapproves of the fact that money is being taken from hard-working people and being handed to people who are lazy and unwilling to work. I am entirely foor helping those who are down on their luck or having a hard time. However, the best way to do this is usually to provide opportunities to work rather than free money. I donate to a charity which provides money and food to poor people. If that person is able-bodied, he or she is asked to work for a few hours and they will be paid well above minimum wage. Less than 5% take advantage of this opportunity, preferring government money.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

THANKYOU

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you're a cunt

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Your GPA analogy doesn't really work. Here's one that fits the situation better. "Bob has a million gumdrops, and Sally only has ten gumdrops because gumdrops are hard to find in a recession and she lives in Appalachia, so she isn't well educated about gumdrop finding. Also, she has to share her gumdrops with her elderly mother and all her children. Would it really hurt Bob that much to give away a tiny percentage of his gumdrops to help Sally?" Clearly you don't know much about poverty if you think it's just laziness.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's not always the case. Sometimes it's "Bob has a million gumdrops, and Sally has 10. Bob has spent his entire life seearching for and saving up gumdrops, while Sally is sits around, and eats the gumdrops right as she finds them. One day, she is hungry. She wants a third of Bob's gumdrop. The government makes Bob give Sally 333,000 gumdrops. Now Bob is sad, and Sally is still fat." :)

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Or if you're Sally, :))

by Anonymous 13 years ago

When has the government ever made someone give up a third of their money? And it's pretty bold of you to call Sally fat when your username is overgrown turkey. Just sayin

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Eh, I was just exaggerating for emphasis. And I'm big boned! Harrumph. Figgered you humans would like me, I'm perfect for Thanksgiving.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

In America between FDR and JFK the taxes got up to 80% for the highest bracket. It still is around 30% for the same bracket, before redemptions. In more socialistic countries in Europe having taxes around 30-45% isn't unusual.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

We are not in Europe, nor are we socialistic, believe me. The rich are going to stay rich, and the poor are going to stay poor. They just won't be as rich or as poor.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I was just saying that the government has/does make people give up a third of their money because you said they didn't. And depending for what kind of job you have, like if you work on commission, no matter what your wage you only get 7/10 dollars. Which is thirty percent gone.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, but not all of that goes to welfare, a lot of that goes to building roads and policemen and schools and a lot of other things that rich people enjoy

by Anonymous 13 years ago

That's not the point. You said, "When has the government ever made someone give up a third of their money?" And I gave examples. I'm not saying that it's bad, I'm just saying it happens.

by Anonymous 13 years ago