Yeah, it seems like there are a lot of inconsistencies when ideologies hit reality; as in, close to home

by Anonymous 13 years ago

WTH, why did you single out Catholics? Catholicism is the largest sect of Christianity worldwide, but it's one of the smallest sects of Christianity in America.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

because catholics are the most likely to vote against what I mentioned?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Trying to find the statistics, the last ones I read about the US, Catholics were the religious group most likely to vote for the American Democrat party, and I think the US Democrat party is for the things you mentioned. I dunno, just I remember doing research about America, and that came up a lot.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ha wow, that'sweird, normally christians, catholics mostly, are known to vote connservative... why would they vote for gay marriage and prochoice? odd

by Anonymous 13 years ago

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/...rty_Preference I think Catholics mainly supported the Democrat parties political platforms, not the social ones: "Catholics were once a reliable Democratic constituency and now, in part as a result of white Catholic assimiliation into U.S. society (white Catholics were once viewed mostly as an immigrant community in the U.S.) and in part as a result of the Abortion issue, Catholic support for Democrats has declined to the point where Catholics are now among the largest groups of swing voters in the United States."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

yea I guess we were both right, Catholics stopped at the abortion issue and support died down, but they did support that party.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Yeah, I wasn't trying to be a lil pedantic wanker, I was just curious as to why, all of religions, Catholics were singled out.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Sorry to comment on an old post, but when I said " Catholicism is the largest sect of Christianity worldwide, but it's one of the smallest sects of Christianity in America." That's not actually true, when I said that, I got my info from a site about JFK, so it was true in the 60s, but now Catholicism is the 2nd largest sect of Christianity in the US after Protestantism. Sorry about the notification, thatguys, just felt I had to go back and correct myself.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

ha bro i see your posts and comments everywhere and for the most part i always agree with ya. And ya I see what you mean, over the last half century protestantism has been on a rise. Regardless, catholicism and protestantism follow the same belief on that part.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

This one girl in my school is the epitome of this post. She thinks people against gay marriage and people who are pro-life are closed-minded idiots but says we should stay out of Muslim's business and let them do what they want. And wants to murder you if you disagree with her.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I am the exact same way only I don't want to murder everyone who disagrees with me. Sometimes I want to slap them, but I don't want to get in trouble.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I think people are saying that we shouldn't interfere with the normal and peaceful Muslim practices, not the rare ones that are violent

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Muslims are killing a lot of people in the Middle East. People say we shouldn't send military there to stop them.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

do your research before you post something like that. Muslims were resident in palestine and are being forcefully removed from their homes to make way for israel's government. Calling their resistance to this as "killing people" is simply pathetic. Islam teaches love and is a religion that practices peace. The media portrays muslims as terrorists. Instead of reading about muslims from other sources, rather read this instruction book that muslims use, that's supposedly full of violent teachings. Google an english version, it's called the quran. When you're done reading it, tell us what it teaches. If your opinion hasn't changed, by all means, call Muslims what u wish.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Honestly I realy respect how you came at that instead of calling me a dumass fag like half the people on this website would. But something like actual suicide bombers that think it is their sole duty to explode because of Islam is real. I agree, I know Muslims and they are really peaceful, however there are exceptions to every religion. Christians are supposed to be peaceful as well, but have you heard of the Crusades? I didn't mean to attack at Muslims, not by a long shot, but there are Muslims that fall into my category I mentioned who choose to take part in "violent Muslim religious practices".

by Anonymous 13 years ago

No, you really did generalize there. There is no such thing as "violent Muslim religious practises" because "violent religious practises" cannot possibly be considered even remotely Muslim. It's incredibly ignorant and offensive, no matter how you meant it. And that's a terrible example. America is free to interfere with whatever religion in relation to politics inside its OWN country. The fabled 'violent Muslim practises' you are referring to, however, are outside America's jurisdiction and therefore none of its business. The UN is free to intervene if they break international law at any point, but under the slogan of human rights and not under 'America gets to boss everyone around.' And Muslims are NOT killing a lot of people in the Middle East. Israeli and US troops have caused more damage and loss of life than ANY Middle-Eastern country has over the past ten years. And since the Middle East is primarily Muslim, you should realize the victims are Muslims too.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

1. You can tell me until you're blue in the face about how saying it was ignorant to isolate Muslims in the violent religious practices I mentioned, but I don't care, go 1st amendment. I also did not generalize. Look up at the post. It exactly says "violent Muslim religious practices". 2. Of course America is free to intervene anywhere it wants, it's just a decision as to whether or not it is RIGHT to. Criticizing those who believe in supporting pro-life in America and criticizing those who believe in supporting nonintervention in the Middle East is the same concept of looking down on those who stick with religious beliefs being a double standard between Catholics and Muslims, regardless of territory. That seems to be a consistent question, as to how my two examples relate...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm disagreeing with your statement here. Pro-life in America does not equal nonintervention in the Middle East in ANY way. You're saying, "Muslims are killing a lot of people in the Middle East. People say we shouldn't send military there to stop them." How is THAT related to Catholics don't want abortion? Yes, yes, your first amendment is perfectly fine, but it only applies to your own country. What I'm trying to tell you is that America DOESN'T have the right to intervene in the Middle East, therefore criticizing those who think so is quite frankly irrelevant. You're equating internal affairs with foreign affairs in completely different matters about subjects you don't seem to understand thoroughly. And before you go on about how they're the question is consistent - it isn't. At all. A double standard between Christians and Muslims should only be measured on the same scale. As in, if Muslims were anti or pro-abortion in America as well.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

3. That's bullshit. I understand that the Middle East is mostly Muslim, so Muslims are dying mostly as well, but the concept that American and Israeli troops kill more than Muslim terrorists is just, well, wrong. It isn't true. I'm not arguing that, don't bring it back up, I just plain think that is a bad statistic, if it even is one at all.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Are you willing to bet? How many Palestenians have Israelis killed? In a week over a thousand Palestinian men, women and children were slaughtered. Until the recent events (revolutions and such, against horrific leaders the US has supported for the past few decades in order to keep the Middle East under its thumb) nobody in the Middle East had done that to their own people. Yes, you hear a lot about suicide bombings, but they're usually exaggerated and kill about 12 people at a time. Very rarely do they kill more than that. And don't try to tell me what the war on Iraq did or didn't do either, because a thriving country was stripped of its resources and thousands of its people were driven out and killed. I'm not anti-Americans here, by the way. I'm just telling you what went down in the Middle East that the US supported. And the Muslims right now are trying to fix it.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

trolls like that should be abolished. I see where you're coming from. It's true, that some people take it too far. I just meant to say that there's no instruction in the quran that is violent, unless you've been oppressed in some way or form. I guess it doesn't help that the media HAS to use the word muslim before terrorist, whereas if a member of any other religion bombs something they're not a "christian extremist". Good debate *thumb up*

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Ha thanks. I know Muslims, they're really peacuful! Just like Christians, however there are always exceptions to the rules (Crusades? 9/11? Neither of those were in the Bible or Quran)/

by Anonymous 13 years ago

pro life is stupid.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Go Murder...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ill "murder" to save someone elses life. ie the teenager that got knocked up. What makes anyone think that the baby is any more important than the person who had it. It ruins the parents life.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm sorry I missed the part where it KILLS them...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

its a fetus, and technically isn't living until it can preform the 8 life functions by itself. So no, it's not killing. Its like picking a tomato.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Just saying, most pregnancies aren't life threatening and even if abortion somehow became illegal most likely there would be exceptions if the mother would die.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I don't quite follow...

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm kind of the type of person you mention in the post, except that I support the idea for Muslims to be able to practice they're religion, but I wouldn't want they're religious policies to interfere with government legislation, which is the same way I feel with Christians on issues like gay marrige and abortion.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I'm really confused here. How do the two relate?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

it's the concept of interfering with religious beliefs into government

by Anonymous 13 years ago

So OP is saying that people are saying that we shouldn't interfere with Muslim religious practices, even though they're interfering with Catholics' religion?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

hit the nail on the head. Well, not that they're interfereing with Catholicism, more like just looking down on them for doing what they think is right, even tho it's exactly what those people are doing for the Muslims.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I get it now! I just pressed anon because I thought I was being stupid. Thanks for not being a dick about explaining!

by Anonymous 13 years ago

ha no prob, i hate people that do that lol

by Anonymous 13 years ago

I thought both were about not interfering with others' business. I'm not saying I'm for or against them, but there's a difference between interfering with something and interfering with people who are interfering with something. They kind of negate each other if you are interfering with someone's interference. Sorry if that was confusing : )

by Anonymous 13 years ago