Also by meemer147+197People really just need to chill out. About everything. That doesn't mean not doing something about an injustice, but it does mean keeping yourself calm and collected while you do so, amirite?
Also by meemer147+419doodling is like singing to yourself; you're not really trying to showcase your talent, but if you're good at it, people notice, amirite?
That's not chivalry... That's speaking in older English. It's the same thing as asking, "May I date you?", which people do all the time.
It's sad that nowadays, some people end their posts with 'am I right?'.
lol why does anyone care
Oh I don't know, MAYBE BECAUSE amirite? IS THE NAME OF THIS WEBSITE.
yes and...? it's really not that big of a deal
It's sad that nowadays, if someone says "thou shalt not cometh this way" then you'd probably laugh, thinking it's a joke. What happened to talking like you're not in the twenty first century, am I right?
Exactly, it's not about chivalry, it's about language.
I know that :p
As GrammerGirl said that's not chivalry it's just the words. Times change and words change with them, but if someone acted chivalrous in a "courting" way it might be unusual but would probably be appreciated.
Chivalry is dead because feminism killed it
Right, because feminists fought for the right to stab an unarmed opponent. That's what the whole movement was about.
Yus, women had it good! They didn't have to work. They stayed in the house all day. The man did all the work and THEN treated his lady like a queen. If I found a woman that told me I didn't have to work and that she'd treat me like her king, I wouldn't complain....
But they couldn't vote or make any decisions on their own because they were "inferior" to men. Feminism was about equal rights. Having said that, I understand what you mean. Hell yes, to me it'd be nice not to HAVE to work, but that obviously wouldn't be a fulfilling life for some women and they deserve the right to choose what would make them happy, you know?
I know... I was trying to be an anti feminist jerk :/
Ah. Well, good job. :)
Thank you Susan B
I hope you got the pun... womens rights Susan B... eh? Eh? Mighty clever right?
I know I'd hate it if I was told that I had to stay at home and clean and take care of kids. I'd much rather be independent and be able to learn and go to college and do something for me.
If you love your kids... then why would you be mad that you get to spend more time with them?
It's not not wanting to spend time with them, it's wanting to do something besides sit around and constantly raise other people and to have other interests.
Yeah, but they CAN do whatever they want... so long as they don't want to do anything that requires voting or working... they can go shopping for example, I hear women LOVE that and gossip! They have all day to GOSSIP, yay!
Shopping it terrible! And yes, I'm aware you're only arguing for the sake of arguing.
Most women did work. They worked in factories and sweatshops earning way less than men who worked at the same job. It was only married upper class white women who stayed at home all day. And we all know that getting giving up on your dreams of becoming a doctor to wash dishes is really so much fun, those women were really lucky. Women weren't treated like queens either, they were often treated as inferior beings, sex objects, and property. But feminism isn't just about America, Canada, and Europe, it encompasses the whole world. Women do not have equal rights today at all.
Middle class suburban women also stayed home too.
Upper middle class (mostly white) women, yes, though there are always exceptions. What is your point?
Well most of the suburban women stayed home too, not ONLY the upper class like you said. It was mainly just the lower class women who worked.
Why do the numbers matter so much? Tons or women were oppressed. Tons are still oppressed. I'd find numbers about how many women were working but I don't know what year we are talking about.
Is that when the men got pregnant and had PAID leaves?
What the hell are you talking about?
Let me ask you this! So if women REALLY do get paid less than men, then WHY in the world do companies hire men at all?
Oh so do you not believe women are not getting paid less?
The majority of women earn on average about three-fourths of the pay of males for the same work, outside of the agricultural sector, in both developed and developing countries.
In most countries, women work approximately twice the unpaid time men do.
Women make up 31 per cent of the official labour force in developing countries and 46.7 per cent worldwide.
Rural women produce more than 55 per cent of all food grown in developing countries.
By the year 2000, there will be as many women employees as men in many industrialized nations.
I didn't make this up. This is what the UN said. It really is a problem and more people should take it seriously instead of dismissing it as man-hating propaganda.
Wait by the year 2000? Why do I have a feeling this information is outdated? :/
Anyways, okay so I'm a company who's now hiring there are two people who applied. One a man and the other a woman. I can pay this man 1 dollar an hour or I can pay the woman 75 cents an hour for the same work. Am I as a company expected to be so philanthropic that I'd just hire the guy, so I can pay him more? If that was actually the case, then my company would go out of business, because my competing company would be an amazon of women workers, who are underpaid so the company makes more profit. The argument you're using is the same one that Hilary Clinton used, but it's been proven that women don't actually work nearly the same amount of hours that men do. You should do more research, next time :]
Seriously, what the FUCK is your problem? Do you not believe women are oppressed? Do you want women to be oppressed? Do you feel threatened by the fact that women can work and hold positions of power? Do you enjoy encouraging people to ignore serious world problems? Do you get a kick out of being an ass on the internet? Why are you so set on hating on women's rights? Why? What have they ever done to you?
I couldn't find more up to date info on women's pay. The UN stuff was from 1997. Sue me. If you can find more up to date info be my guest.
You're whole analogy is full of crap. Women do get paid less and are more often more poor. It's a fact. Get over it.
I can't BELIEVE this is how you end the argument, just because you can't win it, you're going to make me look like the jerk and storm off?
The fact that the last information you found on the topic is from 1997 shows that, that whole ideology is outdated. It may be the case in third world countries, but women get a lot of benefits in this day and age that men do not have access to. There is a lot of sexism that goes on, but the whole argument that women get paid less than men is bull. If this was the case, then men would be in trouble, because no one would hire them. Think about it... it's all logical. You don't even have to be an economist. It's just common sense.
Find me data that shows on average women (all over the world) get paid the same about as men. Seriously, If you find data that shows that I will actually listen to you. This is an issue of facts.
Here is some data about the wage gap. Is this enough or do you need more?
Where does it show how many hours the workers worked? If the man works more hours at the end of the year he'll make more, if the woman does then she will. Where does it show how many hours in general each gender worked?
Sorry for barging in here... But isn't it that in most cases around the world men are expected to be the breadwinner in the family... I think that would affect the global avg. of women's vs men's income...eh?
No facts here, but thats what my common sense says...
Yes traditionally men are the breadwinners, but the thing is though men and women DO get paid the same amount, it's just that (generally) men work longer hours, so at the end of the year when people look at their income a man and a woman holding the same position can have two different incomes. I mean if women did get paid less than men, why would companies hire men at all? It's like choosing between a slave and another worker. Of course a company will choose the slave, because that will bring them more profits
It's possible for a woman to have a man's respect and still be treated like a lady. Chivalry is basically just courtesy, and it really has nothing to do with feminism.
But the thing is, if you show chivalry, you are a male chauvinistic pig, if you don't, you're an unchivalrous bastard
No, if you show chivalry you're what's called a "keeper", and if she complains she's what's called a "bitch". Maybe she's a feminist, maybe she isn't, either way she's just a bitch. That actually has nothing to do with feminism, you know what I mean? But I think a man should always treat a lady with respect and vise versa.
I say it and get negative votes, you say it and get positive... I even specified that it was feminazis as opposed to actual feminists.... Eh, guess it's just the luck of which group of people see your comment.
I'd say yes.
Modern day version: Can I get yo numba?
I would laugh but secretly really enjoy it.
I'd say yes to that, I think it's adorable.
First I would pinch myself to make sure I was awake and not dreaming. Then, I'd say yes. I'm an old-fashioned girl, I think that'd be pretty unique and romantic.
Here's where it went: http://www.amirite.net/573504
so it isn't chivalrous to ask someone to date you if you don't say "court" instead of "date"?
? Isn't courting dating?
thanks for catching that! i changed it haha
That's why they call me Bad "catch-that" Ass!
Wait a minute....
lol why do people care so much
Feminazis. Does this sound familiar?
"What? You want to pay for our meal? I AM A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN AND NEED NO MAN TO PAY FOR MY FOOD! SHALL I RETURN TO MY PROPER PLACE THE KITCHEN AND SLAVE OVER THE STOVE FOR YOU NOW, YOU CHAUVINIST PIG?!"
"How DARE you insult me like that?! I AM A BEAUTIFUL, STRONG AND VALUABLE WOMAN AND I NEED NO MAN TO HOLD OPEN DOORS FOR ME! I'M SO SORRY FOR LEAVING HOME AND WANTING MORE OUT OF LIFE THAN TO MAKE YOUR BABIES, YOU SEXIST BASTARD!"
The people who hold doors for girls and pay for their meals, and the people who think women are only good for cooking and giving birth, are 2 very different groups of sexists.
What I don't understand is how paying for a girl's mean and opening the door for her are sexists acts.
It's only as sexist as the person doing it. I hold the door open for people immediately behind me ALL THE TIME, whether they be male, female, young or old. It's not because I think they're so helpless that they can't do it themselves, it's just a simple human courtesy. If I've asked a woman on a date, I'm going to want to pay simply because I was the one suggesting going to a place to spend money in the first place. However, if she insists on paying or splitting the bill, I have no problem with that as my offer to pay was a simple courtesy and NOT IN ANY WAY a suggestion that she as a woman couldn't afford to pay for it. It's the woman who take the idea of feminism too far that turn, what should be, a polite act into a horrid admission of intense sexism that have done a great deal of damage to "chivalry". That's the point I was trying to make. If you think that I'm sexist for this.... I hope that you can manage to find some solace in your life of ignorant misery.