-42 You are an inmate in a concentration camp. A sadistic guard is about to hang your son who tried to escape and wants you to pull the chair from underneath him. He says that if you don't he will not only kill your son but some other innocent inmate as well. You don't have any doubt that he means what he says. You would kill your son to save another man, amirite?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

have fun getting -200 lol

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'm more interested in what people would do.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

If you didn't do it, they'd do it for you as you watched. So I guess I'd do it.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

After re-reading this 10 months later I have decided that an upvote would make more sense haha

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I wouldn't kill my son to save another man, I'd kill my son because if I didn't do it, the guard was going to kill him anyway (plus you and the other guy, but in that situation I wouldn't be thinking of the other guy.) Like, if it was a choice between saving my son or saving myself and the other bloke, then I'd probably pick my son, but it's a choice between just my son, or all three of us.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Hang on, I read it wrong, I thought the guard's threat was to kill your son, you and the other guy. But, yeah, doesn't really change my answer - either way, my son is going to die, so if it's a choice between just my son dying, or my son and some other bloke, it makes sense to choose the former. Particularly when you consider that hanging is a relatively quick death - there's every chance if you refused, the guard could torture your son to death.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It wouldn't necessarily be a quick death in a concentration camp though because the people are so thin they're not heavy enough for their necks to break when the chair is pulled out. Ever read night? There's a part that has to do with that, makes you want to puke.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

The concentration camp would be living hell. I would let them die mostly to put them out of their misery.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Source: http://www.friesian.com/valley/dilemmas.htm Interesting.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I just read through alllll of them...hehe thanks for the procrastination material :P

by Anonymous 12 years ago

No problem.. I would have posted a different one but they're too long!

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Haha yeah. I like this one, it's a really good moral dilemma but short and to the point. The one about the cave with the tide rising is interesting too though. I don't know what I'd do :/

by Anonymous 12 years ago

Thanks for linking that, they're really interesting.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I'd kill the guard. I don't care if I get shot, I'd take that fucker with me.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

That's actually pretty cool and smart BUT THAT WASN'T AN OPTION FUCKHEAD. If you get to make a third option, then so does everyone.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It's an "Of Mice and Men" kind of scenario. I would probably kill my son, so at least he could know I was doing it out of love, instead of his being killed by some nasty guard. But then again, I've yet to be a mother, so I don't exactly know what a child-parent bond feels like from the parent side. But, I'd rather my mother be forced to do it, than some scary evilly intending man.

by Anonymous 12 years ago

I guess if I could I'd ask my son what he wanted, but I couldn't live knowing I killed my son so I'd probably just kill myself

by Anonymous 12 years ago

It wouldn't be fair to kill a random innocent stranger.....and I would put my son out of misery....

by Anonymous 12 years ago

"You are an inmate at a concentration camp..." no I'm not.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It's called a hypothetical situation.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yeah I'm aware it was sarcasm

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Honestly if I was in that situation, I would just kill myself. I would not last long in a concentration camp.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't think any of us are capable of answering. None of us know what the camps were, we've read about them and we've talked about them but we simply cannot judge. We will never know. It's more than just picturing yourself being an inmate and I kind of think it's disrespectful to those who have known the horror of the camps to just talk about it like it's a situation we could imagine ourselves in. As for those who say "I would kill myself" or "I would kill the guard and shoot everyone", no you wouldn't, inmates didn't have the means to do any of this.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yes, he's your son, but he's probably going to die anyway. Do you want two people to die, or would you sacrifice your own son?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It's Phillipa Foote's trolley problem. Yes, fewer people die if you just kick the chair, but you feel directly responsible, even though they would've killed your son either way. The majortity of us would do nothing, despite the fact that more people die. I have a really hard time imagining myself in that situation, but I think I would try to kick the chair. I probably wouldn't be able to though.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'd kill my son, he tried to escape, he's ruining it for everyone else

by Anonymous 11 years ago

lolwut? This is so ridiculous that I actually cracked up..

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'd kill my son. He dies either way, and it's not like he's having a great life in the first place. Plus, the guard might kill him is a more painful way than hanging. And I'ts not for me to judge if the other inmate should live or die.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

You obviously don't have a son

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm gonna post all my stands in the dilemmas here. 1. Guilty. He should have jumped too. 3. No. If the son dies, it would have still been 'neutral'. If he survived, it was a bonus. 4. Pick the one that results in less deaths. When morals fail, utilitarian is the way to go. If the one guy didn't want to sacrifice himself, he was a bit of an asshole anyway. 5. Blow up the fat man. Same reasoning as above. THe prgnant woman would most likely have been urged to go second, or else she would have been like a guinea pig for unstable rock, etc. If she was urged to go first, she should be saved because the problem was brought upon the others by themselves. 6. tl;dr, may have missed some parts. DOn't crush the worker, because another two deaths are not inevitable. People may also mbe unwillign to use the tunnel for fear of a vengeful spirit. The professions should be carried on, because the workers are into forced to do dangerous stuff, so it's their choice, and they are aware of the risks. 7. Yes. He shouldn't have established himself in the first place. He may have taken a place from someone as good, but not a criminal.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

8. Nothing legal or moral, but he is a complete asshole anyway. He should, but he has no obligation. Good Samaritan laws are bullshit, because some people are just selfish assholes, and trying to change them isn't really going to do that much. It just lessens the goodness in other people. 9. That is what made me so against the Good Samaritan laws. You should not put yourself at equal risk to the victim, but if it is of no great risk to you, you should help. And that guy was pretty stupid to shout that. " I NEED HELP, BUT IF YOU HELP ME YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DIE! HELP PLEASE!" 10. No. omission<commission. It was worng, but less wrong, in the same way that not killing someone is not as great as saving them. 11. Torture the bomber, brign a knife blade very close to his wife's neck without the intention of killing her. That leaves no transition stage and the bomber must make a snap decision. 12. No law, so murderers divulge information readily. The psychiatrist should tell the woman, but no one else. That way, sh's safer, but the patient doesn't get arrested if he doesn't do anything.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

13. If it's a private company he can do anythign he wants. That's why it's private. If it's public, he has to think about shareholders, and there's no room for family and friends benefits. 14. Rat him out if someone else's life was going to be destroyed. If nothing happens to anyone else, keep the promise. 15. They're not being hypocritical unless they want it stated in the law that 'Except [President's name]'

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Wait a minute, I'm confused. Wouldn't the son die either way? Kicking the chair would result in fewer deaths.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yes but some people would feel responsible for the son's death.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

This is one of those things where I don't know what I would do unless I was in that situation. I feel like the right thing to do would be to kick the son's chair, but I don't know if I would be able to live with myself. On the other hand, if I didn't, I'd be responsible for an innocent inmate's death.

by Anonymous 11 years ago