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Easter Island was a pristine tropical island. After humans arrived, the land became overpopulated, the resources were depleted, the environment destroyed, the people divided, and the culture was on the brink of self-destruction. This is a microcosm of humanity's eventual fate, amirite?

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How would there have been culture before humans arrived?

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@DanielJames There wasn't. That isn't implied by the post.

Then why do you say that people were divided and culture was on the brink of destruction as a result of people arriving?

@Sturminator Then why do you say that people were divided and culture was on the brink of destruction as a result of people arriving?

The phrase "after humans arrived" isn't meant to be the fundamental cause that all effects are directly related back to, it's just setting the scene. I originally wrote "Easter Island was a pristine tropical island, but then humans arrived," but I thought the change made it sound more fluid.

I suppose the rules of grammar would say that the phrase implies a cause-effect relationship between human arrival and all the components listed, but that's really nitpicking.

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Am I the only one who thought the rock looked like an elephant?

That's stupid, to be blunt. Just because of one scenario where one set of people showed up and failed on society doesn't foreshadow the demise of humanity.

People came to America (the Natives) and they sure as hell thrived and had less war between civilizations than modern Americans.

Even if you count modern Americans, yea, what we did to the Natives was wrong, but you can't deny that modern America turned out to be the most thriving population in the world.

@thatguys That's stupid, to be blunt. Just because of one scenario where one set of people showed up and failed on society...

It's already happening on a global scale. We are overpopulating the globe, resources are being depleted, the environment is being destroyed, and humanity is largely divided. Once we really start running out of resources over the next few centuries, we could be approaching the end of humanity. Our hope lies in advances in technology, but we could be beyond the tipping point.

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@DanielJames It's already happening on a global scale. We are overpopulating the globe, resources are being depleted, the...

Ok, never in humanity, on a global scale, has there ever been a point where resource production couldn't cope with population increases. Yes, there have obviously been scarcities, but if distributed evenly among the world instead of said scarcities and concentrations, then they would have been fine.

Advances in technology caused that.

And humanity isn't exactly divided. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
Globalization only increases by the second.

Our environment is fine as a whole. Pollution in a few spots on the globe does not prove that our environment is being destroyed. You want to see a destroyed environment? London. Industrial Revolution. They literally were ripping it apart.

I'm getting kinda sick of all the comments and posts about how humanity is sooo damn horrible to everything around it and how we're all the bad guys.

@thatguys Ok, never in humanity, on a global scale, has there ever been a point where resource production couldn't cope with...

You are correct, but it will happen. Earth has a carrying capacity: somewhere around 9 to 10 billion people. At that point, lack of resource availability and accessibility will make death rates rise and the global population will peak and very slowly decline. This will occur whether or not major advances in technology occur, because we are too far along the trend already. However, technology could and probably will allow humanity to re-stabilize and continue on (just as it did on Easter Island).

Yes, globalization is a beautiful thing and interdependence is on the rise, but if resource availability and accessibility reach low levels, as they almost certainly will, then it could factionalize humanity to an unprecedented extent.

Also, the environment isn't "fine," but it will definitely recover. Earth is a self-regulating system that will outlast humans by billions of years and regain its full strength. Humans aren't innocent, but they aren't "horrible" either. This post wasn't meant to paint them as such.

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@DanielJames You are correct, but it will happen. Earth has a carrying capacity: somewhere around 9 to 10 billion people. At...

Hm, kind of a bunch of slippery slope arguments to me. Too many opinions. Just can't debate that way. But I do understand where you're coming from!

profound

Humanity has been there and done that many times before...and here we are today

@WinniethePooh Humanity has been there and done that many times before...and here we are today

A key phrase is "on the brink of self-destruction." It didn't completely wipe the Rapa Nui out. A small population still reside in Easter Island, put into a reservation just like Native Americans. Likewise, I don't think humanity will disappear because of this, but it could very well put us on the brink as well. I suspect our mass extinction will be very similar to that of the dinosaurs.

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@DanielJames A key phrase is "on the brink of self-destruction." It didn't completely wipe the Rapa Nui out. A small population...

While we can never know what the future holds for us, what I'm saying is society has been "on the brink of self-destruction" before. Such as the Plague and countless wars, etc...

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