+92 The "whys" of miscarriages and stillbirths are a difficult question with God in the equation, almost impossible to explain away, amirite?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

"It's a test."

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It wasn't His will is another popular one. I feel like there are several cop out answers, which COULD be true, but I doubt highly.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't know why it's considered a cop out. Well, I can understand it but if you believe in God, those are all legitimate answers. Obviously, you aren't going to have a private chat with Him in which God tells you, "Oh, we needed them up here, nbd."

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm not religious, but I'm pretty sure the entire POINT of religion is that you don't //know//, you have //faith//, and you can't explain any of those things. It may seem like a cop out to you, but I like to think of it as God is kinda like Dumbledore, you don't really know the plan but you know he has one and it works in mysterious ways.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

whenever there is a miraculous birth (against the odds) people say that it was God's plan and that He has a lot in store for the baby. But then when miscarriages happen, that same logic would seem to equate that God didn't have any reason for the baby and that He didn't have plans for it. Of course, nobody who believes in God would ever say that. I guess what bothers me is that whenever something good happens, people worship God and give Him credit, but when equally unexplainable tragedies happen, people are quick to excuse God

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Yeah, but the thing is, if you've just experienced something horrible, it's not exactly consoling... it's like if your pet dies and your parents say, "It's just an animal, be logical" when you're in a distressful situation, logic isn't exactly going to get you anywhere. Don't worry, don't grief, you're just a small bean in the huge frying pan of life.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

People tend to prefer seeing God as good but he can be merciless too. They just don't like to think about that. Regarding the part about tragedies, I know whenever a family member or a friend dies, people tell me things like "God needed him/her in Heaven." And stuff like that and it's pretty much the only reason I can eventually get over their death. Some people don't necessarily excuse God, they try to understand why He might have caused whatever it was to happen.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm not talking about consoling here. I can totally understand the "God works in mysterious ways" type of comments made to console others. But I'm just saying they aren't very good answers

by Anonymous 11 years ago

But what else could they really say? They don't know what God has planned but they believe He DOES have something planned.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

But then why gruel over 9 months of pain and hard work? Why allow them to get pregnant, if they're not going to have it?

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't know. That's kind of my point relating to people saying "He works in mysterious ways" and whatnot-they //don't know//. God knows and He's the only one who does.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

But then how does that help //anyone//? It's like, "Don't worry about it." How can I not worry about it? I just lost a fucking kid... I don't deserve to know why? It's my life that's getting fucked up here....

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It //can// help. It probably won't, honestly, but I know if somebody reassures me that God has a plan, I'm generally comforted by the thought. You're obviously not just going to get over losing a child in two seconds because someone says "Hey Bro, God's got this," but it can reassure you that your baby is in a better place or something to that effect.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

"He works in mysterious ways."

by Anonymous 11 years ago

He's an asshole

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Kasanovas a cunt. I can do that too

by Anonymous 11 years ago

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by Anonymous 11 years ago

While I'm not saying you're wrong, I do disagree. Miscarriages and stillbirths can be explained with science.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

That's exactly the point OP is trying to make. They said specifically with God as a factor it can't be explained.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I'm so confused.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

OP is pointing out the flaw in the statements that many religious people make, like "It's a part of his plan" or "He works in mysterious ways" by implying that God would have to be pretty heartless to let things like this happen. So the post is excluding science.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Supply isnt high enough for the demand in the soul market

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Possibly to teach the would-be mothers and fathers some sort of lesson via emotional pain and heartache.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I don't see how it's any more complicated than cancer, starvation, heart attacks, or anything else that causes death. In fact, we can't really explain anything God does or why He does it.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

well, starvation is usually the consequence of man's actions over others. Cancer and heart attacks are tough to reconcile with God, but at least the people who die of these things got to live first. We all have to die eventually, but miscarried babies never even got the chance

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I think that giving someone a consciousness/soul for a while and then killing them slowly and painfully is worse. It's like cancelling a building project vs. burning down a building. If you believe that God controls everything directly, he could seem heartless for virtually everything he does. I believe he has a plan for all of us and we will find out what it is eventually. I won't pretend to know what that plan is, so I can't give you a better explanation than that.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

I respect your humility, and don't pretend to know any of it myself. No-one really knows for sure what mysteries lie beyond this world and this life

by Anonymous 11 years ago

It can be explained by religion. By reading the bible we know that God wants what is best for us, but the devil is still on this earth working to make us miserable. The fact that satan is on the earth and is constantly working against God shows that bad things will still happen no matter what. That is the best explanation I have ever heard for it, at least.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

A possible answer, I suppose. But the Bible does not give a very strong emphasis on the physical acts of "the devil" as much as on his deception, and on the evil acts of man. The whole explanation also seems too simplistic and contrived to me, like something that wishful man could have created to let its own perfect God off the hook. Of course I'm being unfairly skeptical though, as it could be the truth. I guess what gets me the most is that a lot of these random incidents of favor or misfortune have rational naturalistic causes, and that any supernatural underlying may be unnecessary

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Definitely understand, I guess eventually it all comes down to having faith and believing in something. It may make sense to me because it's something I've always believed, but to you it probably doesn't sound all that legitimate. I think in all religions there are things that don't quite add up scientifically and eventually it comes down to the belief you do or do not have. Just a way I like to look at things.

by Anonymous 11 years ago

Maybe the baby didn't want to be born and God took that into consideration. I'm not a Christian, I'm just offering up an explanation.

by Anonymous 11 years ago