ry single statement of this is true. We are not the greatest country in the world and that's just a fact.
And on a less related note, that guy seemed like he was really overplaying the role of "I'm a douchebag and I know it, watch me shock all the sheep with my edgy, controversial truth-bombs."
Because it's harder to maintain excellent education across a larger and more populous country...
America has the 4th best HDI, and the three countries above us have far lower populations, smaller economies, and weaker militaries. To say that "There is no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country" because "We're 7th in literacy etc. etc." is absolute bullshit, because we have such a higher population and greater cultural and geographic diversity than the countries that surpass us in those statistics, invalidating any direct comparison.
This video had a few relevant statistics, but nothing else of value. If America isn't the greatest country now, I don't see why anyone would believe we used to be.
You can be as patriotic as you damn well please but if you're so wrapped up in thinking you are perfect you will never see just how bad things truly are. Open your eyes and reach for change.
The education index has India at 145 and USA at 21. India's education systems are far, far below average.
You can't just throw out a number and a title like it means something. India has a billion people and I'm sure hitting honour roll there isn't exactly a tough thing to do. I'm not a fan of the American educational system simply because I don't think it get's nearly enough funding. But I would take American schooling over Indian schooling any day.
I've also read that before, but never on any verifiable source, and India also has way more total students than America, so the fact would have little merit, even if true.
India's literacy rate is at 74%, which is awful (America's is at 99%). And no, I wasn't "joking" when citing the education index.
(Here's a link to the pdf if you for some reason didn't believe me: http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HD...te_reprint.pdf )
Also Trogdor I've enjoyed reading your comments. Thank you for actually adding to the post and not just slamming me with broad unsupported statements.
Jesus Christ, blind assumptions? You're doing the exact same thing! You read some highly disputable piece of data with little knowledge on its actual significance and are standing by a ridiculous conclusion based solely on that!
Because it's fiscally impossible to have a proper education with that many students. There are 40 students to every 1 teacher. They simply can't get the support they need. It's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of numbers. Also with a 50% drop out rate, I'd imagine that the majority of the ones that stay are on the honour roll. Which kind of gives the numbers an unfair advantage.
I appreciate the appreciation.
Please explain why a larger population makes a difference?
I love your blind assumptions. How can you already know you wouldn't prefer India's education system, considering it's more effective? How do you know reaching honour roll isn't even tougher over there?
Its pretty easy to tell given the information trogdor has provided. Thank you trogdor. You've managed to change my opinion on this
That is one of my favorite videos of all time
India has a greater population than America and they are ahead in terms of education.
You're joking, right? India has more honour roll students than America has students.
I just read that as, "I have an opinion and everyone that disagrees with me needs to agree with me." May America be the greatest country? Quite possibly. I don't know.There are a lot of variables to consider and I honestly don't know as much about the world as I probably should. I do know, however, that this country has a lot of great attributes like our judicial system and government branches. They are flawed beyond belief, and many, many changes need to be made, but they are still some of the best - if not, the best - ways to punish crimes and rule fairly. Not to mention, the U.S. is essentially a melting pot of the rest of the world. We take the culture, customs, technology, sciences, and philosophies of all other nations. If you don't like where you are living, move over a state. It will be a completely different place. You may wholeheartedly believe that the U.S. is one of the worst countries on this planet and that's fine. It's your opinion. But to deny that it has some amazing qualities is sorta ignorant, and to tell everyone else with a different belief "you're wrong" is even worse.
Oh, no problem. I definitely agree with you, though, about the death penalty and rehab. When I said "punish crimes" I meant more about the judicial system that decides who's innocent and guilty. In regards to culture, you have a choice. You can make a mosaic if you want, but you can also give and take from others. No one is forcing you to lose your habits and philosophies, no matter where you go. I was stating that, on a whole, the U.S. tends to have a lot of different cultural influences, which isn't too surprising, considering the "safe haven" aspect that is was founded on.
I have to disagree with that sorry! I don't believe that what the US has is the best way to punish crimes and rule fairly. Way too many people are sent to prison or jail in the US while in other places like Canada we would prefer rehabilitation. I am against the death penalty I believe its medieval and yet the US still uses it. A melting pot is when you stick a culture in and you expect the people to blend in and mix losing their culture and adopting the American way Vs other country where it is a Cultural mosaic. Where their culture only helps our society evolve and to work as one but keep their culture intact
ahh okay now I understand the judicial part but yeah I agree Personally I prefer the mosaic but some people prefer the melting pot I agree to disagree
I love America. It's not like we are the only country with issues. Everywhere has their own respective problems.
The poster is simply saying that USA is NOT the one with the LEAST problems.
I am far from a patriot (I actually wrote a distopic short story displaying the dangers of patriotism), but I still objectively think that America is the greatest country in the world. At the very least, making that claim would be far from ridiculous, as America is clearly one of the greatest. I could argue that not only is the U.S. the greatest current country, but also the greatest nation in history. But again, I don't believe in valuing the livelihood of ones countrymen over any other human being, as a patriot might.
Dude nice, you put argument in quotes to void my support before I even made it, and used the word "amuse" to make it seem like you were merely toying with a child as you question my clearly inferior opinion. See my replies the the first comment above.
Amuse me with whatever "argument" you may have to say that USA is the greatest.
Then who do you suppose is?
You can't say that something isn't the best just because it has problems. Everything has problems.
Yes with their child labor, pneumonic plagues, over population, and its steady decline of small companies, it is the best country in the world.
Nah, its gotta be the USA, best millitary, best thinkers in the world, most fun. What more could you want
Its horrible to think that the USA is the best country in the world because of military? I think The world is the best country! Canada has gay rights. Mexico has friendship. The USA has innovation. The Uk have explorers. China has trade. Japan has fishing.. And what is the best country we should see the best in each
Are you kidding me? look at all the revolutionary businesses, inventions and technologies that've been created recently...it wasn't all Japan bro. Most fun because of the wealth of the nation, free spirit, and diversity that naturally creates many great diversions.
Best military maybe. But best thinkers? Where the hell do you get that. And most fun? What could you possibly base that on?
Oh hey there. http://features.blogs.fortune.c...merica-part-1/
Supermann I'd really like some examples instead of vague generalisations. I can get those off the news.
I don't think any one country could be specified as the best because how do you determine who is the best? But America has far too many problems to even pretend it is the best.
AHAHAHHAA LOL. America isn't CLOSE to being the greatest nation. Revolutionary businesses? Look up the definition of "revolutionary". Inventions and technology? Look at Europe or Asia. Free spirit? Then what the fuck is up with all the protests all over the place? Diversity? Which country ISN'T diverse nowadays? I'm assuming Supermannn is American, and I am sorry to tell you that you are HORRIBLY misinformed.
The best country in the world is subjective. People thinking that a certain country is the best in the world, America or otherwise, are not necessarily arrogant and it's stupid to assume so.
I don't think any country is perfect (except Sealand, but they only have 3 people) because every system has its flaw. I think Canada is really good though. :)
It also always depends on the leader in place at the moment
I don't know, it just seems so peaceful. Like they keep peace with everyone. They're pretty cool too. I don't even know how to explain it, they just seem so cool.
Haha thank you! (I am canadian) I agree that I like my country but somethings I am for like pro choice and gay marriage and all those things are allowed but the prime minister is trying to stop that.. Thats why
Canada/Northern European nations have been proven to be the most free, happiest countries in the world.
I live near Canada (less than a half hour away, border traffic depending), and yesterday I ventured south (south as in Mass/CT) and people there were horrible. They were pushy and rude and had no respect, whereas I'm used to considerate people. Even in Montreal, people are polite. I'm here to say yes, the stereotype is true.
It may not be the best but it sure is up there.
Like a bunch of people said above me, the "greatest country" is totally subjective. In my opinion, the US is the greatest country in the world. That might be because I'm American and biased, but whatever.We're not perfect. I'd be lying if I said we didn't have a shitload of flaws, but what country doesn't? There may be some aspects where other countries are better, but overall I wouldn't want to belong to any other nation.
How can a country truly be the "greatest"? Everyone has their own opinion! And the people that have been saying the USA is the greatest is basing it on 2 things. 1) They LIVE in America. Thats kind of a biased opinion.
2) What they know about other countries is portrayed by the biased media and statistics we have no idea about whether they're reliable or not.
Now don't get me wrong, America is ONE of the greatest countries, but to be THE greatest, now thats something no one can decide and indefinitely prove
No one mentioned Australia yet... I reckon Australia's definitely up there with the best :)
Then again, I've lived here all my life so I'm pretty biased.
Every country probably has people that think their country is the best, for whatever reason. But not everyone in America thinks that, so you can't really get mad about it. I'm sure there are people in China, Canada, France, Russia, and Mexico that all think they live in the best country. We all take pride in the country we love. You can't really get mad at anyone for that.
It's funny because no one gives a damn if a Canadian, Mexican, German, Russian, French, Greek, Italian, Swedish, Norweigan, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, or Finnish (etc) person claims that their country is the best of the world- that's just patriotic. People only have problems when Americans say it.
America is still debatably the best country, but that does not mean we shouldn't acknowledge our problems.
I don't know much about alot of the small countries with high GDP and what not, but you can't possibly argue that we have yet been overtaken by China or India.
600 trillion in debt? you sir are crazy
I feel that the anon comments on this posts are by the same idiot who thinks repeating themselves makes them right.
USA is set to be overtaken by China in the next couple of years. This is NOT a characteristic of a "greatest nation" should there ever be one. Sure, GDP is highest, but USA also has the smallest balance. -600,000,000,000,000 dollars. Way to go! And does USA have the most freedom of press? HDI? Crime rate? NONE. So how could you possibly argue that USA IS?
I think America's the greatest. Like other people said though, greatest =/= perfect. I am curious though, because I've read pretty much all the comments and no one really stakes a serious claim, which country is the greatest? Or at least, which countries are better than America? As a whole, not in just one or two categories
I really don't know anybody who thinks like this...
I don't recall saying I was trying to be funny...
I'm saying I wasn't making a joke in the first place and, if I was, don't you think I would have said "I was just joking" when you told me to shut up?
I was not...
Well I'm from Oregon and I'd say we're pretty neutral. Are you from a "hick" state like Kentucky?
I want to live where you live. You know how people sometimes make "'Merica" jokes. I'm pretty sure they're joking on exactly my town.
Hey now shut up not everyone from kentucky is a hick...
@Supermannn I know, that's why I used quotation marks. I meant states that are stereotyped as hick, such as Kentucky and a lot of states in that area.
I have from Virginia but a very Southern section. And Southern is both geographic and explanatory here. I'd say about 50% of my high school has some sort of confederate flag on their truck. I can easily say truck because 80% drive supped up pick ups. And I'd estimate 70% on looking almost exactly like this. http://ctrlv.in/102201 except he needs a fish hook on his hat.
That's all, just wow.
i thought you were being a meanie butthole buttface :'(
yeah well its not funny
So you're basically saying every time you tell a joke you make the disclaimer "WARNING: THIS WILL BE FUNNY." ? Interesting.
Everyone has different qualifications on what makes a country good. ..
America: The land of the fay and stupid.
Proved your own point.