And then they put a picture of it on Facebook and I get much less sympathetic.
There is a difference between people who cut for attention and those who cut because of an actual problem. If someone is genuinely using it as a cry for help then yes, give them attention about it. But if someone is doing it just because they want attention and don't have any underlying problems then yes, that is stupid and is a problem and they should not be rewarded with attention.
If someone is cutting themself, they need attention. To me, there's no way to measure how many problems you've been through.
There is a difference between needing help (which you seem to think is the same as attention) and doing something simply to get others to pay attention to you. People who cut because they have serious problems do not need attention, they need help. You can give them all the attention in the world but that is not going to give them the tools they need to heal and to learn how to handle stress in a healthy way.
These comments are all crazy. There aren't specific distinctions between different kinds of cutters. For everyone it's different; a different reason, a different cause, a different effect. You can be an attention whore and still have a real problem. You can cut because it genuinely feels like it helps you without looking for attention.
Stop trying to classify everyone; they're real people with unique problems. :|
The only reason they (they being the attention ones, not the actual genuine suicidal ones) cut themselves is because it gets them attention, if it didn't get them attention, they'd stop almost immediately and find another, less retarded way of getting attention like the rest of us.
If you do something and it yields the desired result, of course you're going to keep fucking doing it.
Actually, that is NOT true. I cut, and nobody gives me attention for it. I don't do it for attention. I do it because of all of the pain I've gone through in my life. You shouldnt judge cutters just because you aren't one. Meet a cutter, or learn some facts about them, then make a fair decision
Okay, first up, the second sentence of your comment began "I cut", if you genuinely didn't care about the attention, you wouldn't have felt necessary to add that part.
Secondly, which part of my comment suggested that I have never met a cutter? When I was 7 my mother tried to kill herself by cutting her wrists, a few years ago one of my closest friends took a deliberate overdose with the intent of suicide and spent several weeks in hospital, are those good enough credentials for you? Do I now have the right to make an observation about the pathetic children who go on and on about how many times they've cut themselves that day? The ones who make no effort to hide their 'self harm issues' but when people reach out to help simply explain that "You don't know what they're going through." telling you to leave them alone and they don't want to talk about it, all the while talking about it, a lot?
First of all, if I didn't mention it, I'm sure you would assume that I don't, and that that I can't justify something like that if I had never experienced it. Second, it wasn't just one part of your comment that suggested you have never met a cutter. It was the whole thing. I would expect someone who has met a cutter would realize that people's reasons for cutting are not irrational. Third, how is one of your friends trying to overdose relevant to your point?
No one who cuts is "pathetic" for openly expressing what they've been through. I would like to see you step into the shoes of someone like me for one whole week, then you'll see how much of an ignorant, pathetic person you are.
There are people in the world who cut themselves for attention, that's not an opinion, it just is, it's a thing that people do.
At no point did my comment say "Fuck cutters, they're cunts", so stop acting like I just tried to murder one of your pets.
I think that you've entirely missed the point of a good half of what I've said.
I think it's just that you tried to express your point in an odd way, that made me misunderstand it.
Well, the basic point of my initial argument was:
If you act a certain way to get something, giving you that something is an awful way to prevent you from acting that way.
I just made it unnecessarily long winded because I was angry at this post.
Did you read the post? I acknowledged that some people do cut to get attention. I just said if they need attention that badly then they should get it.
As it happens yes, it is possible, as incredible as they are, for people to read, understand and disagree with your posts.
It really pisses me off when people assume people cut for attention. If I cut because I want attention, why would I make an effort to hide it? Obviously if I did it for attention I would be public about it.
There are people who cut not as a cry for help or for attention. So many people cut and nobody ever knows. They where long sleeved shirts or cut near the shoulder because you can't see those scars with short sleeved shirts. The only time you see them is when you have to look at yourself in the mirror. And the reason some people cut is because they feel like they don't deserve to be happy or so they can feel something, anything at all. I'm not saying there's a whole class of cutters like this. It's just there are people like this.
There's a difference between help and attention. A cutter that cuts as a cry for help, fine, they're justified. Or at least their reasoning is. But a cutter that does it to get attention isn't doing it because they need/want help, they want sympathy and attention just because they want it.
When it comes to self-harming, there are two types of people. Those who believe you're doing it for attention and those who offer sympathy. I've encountered both types in my life. And quite frankly, i wish for them both to fuck off.
Heaven forbid someone care about you.
Well, if people want to care why do they wait until after they know? It's pretty fucking useless them giving a damn, because it's already happened, probably several time before they notice.
Because they don't have to show their concern when you're not in danger. You think I'll tell my friend that I worry about them killing or maiming themselves when they've never shown any signs of it?
I mean they care for you all the time by being there for you and talking to you and standing up for you. If they don't do that, they're obviously not your friend anyway. If someone new comes to you and notices this, they'll show their concern because they don't want you to continue hurting yourself because it's not worth it, because maybe they've experienced a friend who does it and they're in constant worry, too. Ever think of that?
You need to learn to appreciate others' concern. It's because of concern that people are still alive and that there are doctors and hospitals. And even if it is selfish in the end, then just learn to live with it. Without selfishness we'd all be dead, too. Too much or too little of one thing can kill you or others and that's just common knowledge.
Let the bodies hit the floor.