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Scientology has some absurd beliefs, like that we were created by Xemu, a space alien, 75 million years ago and that the spirits of dead aliens live in us. We all know that we were created 6000 years ago, by an all powerful God and then tricked by a talking snake into eating a fruit that makes us die, amirite
Science has some pretty absurd, practically unbelievable, theories, too.
such as?
Are you serious?
yes.
Big bang/ multi bang theory, string theory, quarks...
None of those sound the least bit absurd to me. You can't compare theories with observational evidence that are rooted in science to stories about space aliens and talking animals, and then claim they're equally absurd and unbelievable.
String theory has no observational evidence. Try again.
You mentioned the big bang as well. But the reason those theories seem absurd is a lack of understanding. Take the time to understand and the logic behind it makes sense. As opposed to something like scientology where the more I read about it the more absurd it sounds.
I'm a science major. I go to school full time to understand those things. They seem absurd precisely because I understand them, perhaps you should have read my profile before you said that. I'll repeat it: science/facts are not the same thing as logic and you cannot look at all scientific theories with logic to make sense of them. Logically, it makes sense that something can only be in one place at one time. Science will tell logic to fuck its self in the ass. If physicists can't make sense of quantum mechanics logically, you can't either. I'll say it again just in case. Science is based in facts, not in logic. Facts=/= logic. "If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet." Niels Bohr
Understand a religion and it will make sense too. That doesn't make the religion logical. If science was logical, general relativity and quantum mechanics wouldn't be logically and mathematically incompatible. They remind me of Harry Potter and Voldemort in a way... neither can live while the other survives. They paint entirely different versions of the universe, logically they can't both be true, so logically science isn't that logical.
At least they make logical sense when explained, from the collection of unbiased observations people have.
As a science major, I can tell you a lot of things don't make "logical sense" when explained. The point of my comment is to not bash something just because it sounds unbelievable to you.
How in the world would they not make logical sense? It's logic and facts that brings forth a scientific conclusion. If it has adequate facts to accompany it, then it makes logical sense. It didn't just come from a hallucination or something.
Because facts aren't the same thing as logic. Quantum mechanics, for example, is not something logical.
If a bunch of facts add up to the same conclusion, then logic says the conclusion is true. You said science has many theories that were practically unbelievable, but not completely unbelievable. If it's believable, it has to have a reason, that being making sense when explained.
If facts add up to the same conclusion, logically the conclusion is true. Yes. That isn't the same thing as the scientific theory its self being logical. One particle having the ability to be at two places at once, there and not there at the same time, is not logical. But it's OK because science is based in facts and observation, not in logic.
You don't actually know much about science, do you?
no
Then no wonder they don't sound absurd to you. :P
Trust me, you don't know much about science either
Actually I do, I'm a science major and scored 97th percentile on placement tests. Why would I trust you about what I know?
Science encompasses all things physical and natural. It includes biology, geology, chemistry, physics, etc. The knowledge in all these disciplines grows daily. I'm guessing you're a physics major? The knowledge you have is probably only a fraction of what physics is, and physics is only a fraction of what science is.
But you've convinced me. I guess there are theories in physics especially that can mindfuck you.
I will be a physics major in the future :) But right now it's just general science (physical/ social science and humanities) because I have to get an associates first so I can get into a university to get a PhD.
Cool. Physics is cool. That probably would've been my second or third choice. Anyway, good luck with all that.
I figured. There are a ton of people like you (especially on the internet) who hop on the "love-science-bash-religion" bandwagon without really understanding either. It's amusing in a pathetic sort of way.
Butthurt much? I explained to colebowl why I said no.
Not butthurt, no. I've seen this too many times to get "butthurt" about it. And I don't really care why you don't understand it. I'm just letting you know that when you've made it obvious you don't understand science or religion, you look like an idiot trying to bash either or both.
Your question was whether I knew much about science. Very few people know "much" about science.
Which means very few people are in the position to act like science "beats" religion and to think that as long as it's a scientific theory, it has to make sense. But hey, common sense on the internet? I was expecting too much.
I know enough about my scientific field to say it makes more sense than any religion. I'm no expert on other sciences though; there are far too many. But most of what I know is more logical than religion too. The difference between scientific theories that don't make sense (or at least the ones that colebowl mentioned) is that they have logical thought and/or evidence behind them. Religion has neither AND it doesn't make sense.