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People should stop saying, "don't try to push your morals on someone else" when debating the legality of something, because the law itself is nothing but the widely accepted ideas of what is morally right or wrong. If everybody thought murder was okay, then murder would be legal, but the vast majority do not, so murder is illegal. Everybody has the right to express their beliefs on the matter without being shut down for making a moral argument, amirite?

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The reason that there are laws is because the things that are mentioned in those laws effect other people, not just yourself. I'm not sure what you're talking about because you weren't very specific, but I would love to discuss this farther if you would like to give an example of what you mean by "pushing your morals on somebody else."

I agree with you, but that's not a very good analogy. Murder is also illegal because you as an individual would not want someone to kill you, nor would anyone else, thus it is illegal to kill. Something like weed smoking, gay marriage etc, do not affect you (not you you, but just a hypothetical you), so making it illegal is pushing your morals on someone else. If you don't want to marry someone of the same gender, that's good and fine, but osmeone else marrying someone else of their gender in no way means you have to do the same. Pushing morals has nosiness as a prerequisite. If it affects you, it's not moral pushing.

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@B10ckH34d I agree with you, but that's not a very good analogy. Murder is also illegal because you as an individual would not...

But what makes your moral view that killing someone is wrong better than someone else's whose says that all killing someone does is rearranging the hamburger they ate last week and doesn't matter in the large scheme of the universe?

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@VictoryAAC But what makes your moral view that killing someone is wrong better than someone else's whose says that all killing...

Because no one want to get murdered themselves. It's not like a large part of the population wants to get killed and the government makes it illegal because a larger part thinks it's wrong. IF nobody want to be killed, then the government makes it impossible (theoretically) for someone to be killed.

Pushing your morals is like limiting another's choice which doesn't do real harm to another, just because you think it's wrong.

And by the way, Earth exploding also wouldn't matter in the large scheme of the universe, which is why selfishness is essential for survival. OR else,m we'd be like, "fuck it !" and civilisation woudl collapse.

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That's exactly the point, murder is illegal because most people already accept that it is morally wrong to kill someone. Pushing your morals on someone else is a completely different situation because they don't already share the common belief that those morals are valid.

@TheBlindMan That's exactly the point, murder is illegal because most people already accept that it is morally wrong to kill...

Well, if the majority of the people disagree with that persons morality, they can discard it as a viable foundation for policy making. My post is more about discarding an argument for/against something because its basis is moral. I'm not supporting pushing one's morality on another.

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