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It seems odd to you that incest is OK for kings and prophets. Amirite?
by Anonymous10 years ago
[Abraham and Sarah (Gen 20:12)]. [Quran aya 2.223 and 33.37 raise questions for scholars]. Throughout history royalty has preserved bloodlines by ignoring the taboos of incest.
by Anonymous11 years ago
When looking at holy scriptors its very important to understand the whole context, because isolating one sentence puts it out of context The first aya you mentioned, it talks about a man being faithful to his wife and only have intercourse with her
The second aya, zayd was not a blood relative to the prophet but rather an adopted son, and in Islamic law you can't adopt a child as your own you must respect their roots (not like western adoption).
so they weren't blood related and he was his guardian and less his father
by Anonymous10 years ago
Thank you for this clarification. Still there are many examples of incest condoned for the ruling class and taboo for commoners.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Do you mean socially or religiously? Because most religions reject incest and view it as perverted
by Anonymous10 years ago
I would agree - they state that it is perverted, but a quick internet search will turn up many examples in many religions (perhaps not Islam). You will find it in Judaism, Hindi, and virtually all "ancient" religions. Polytheistic religions are rife with incest among the gods. And of course socially - especially in royal families throughout history.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Well you'd have to look at how these societies were formed and what they value, for instance Hinduism (to my knowledge) hinges on the caste system where you'd want to concentrate power/wealth to a select few, whereas Islam is more based on egletarian views (read: socialism/communism) so diversity is encouraged
I can't speak for judiasm because I don't know much about the religion
by Anonymous10 years ago
Well...I think you and I agree that incest is general not to be encouraged - and I hope you can agree that historically when it has been condoned by society it is usually the extreme upper-class that //gets away// with it. Which is what I was trying to point out in this post.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I'm agreeing with you incest is disgusting but I'm kind of trying to use cultural relativism and not pass judgement I guess
Both those things you said are true I guess I was trying to start a discussion about it
by Anonymous10 years ago
You did! And I thank you. Here's an interesting (to me) tidbit. In Iceland there is an "app" that let's you check if you are related to someone before you "hook-up" because the island is so small and isolated that practically all people born there are related to each other in some way. So in that culture it is hard not to have an incestuous relationship.
by Anonymous10 years ago
define incestuous
people have different lines when it comes to what is incestuous or what is not
also because I think that everyone in the world is related
http://www.amirite.com/742114-if-someone-asks-about-the-number-of-siblings-we-have-we-can-easily-answer-that-we-have-7-billion/1848152
by Anonymous10 years ago
Well... this post was about incest within the nuclear family (sister/brother, mother/son, etc) but the comment refers to 2nd and 3rd cousins.
I am personally OK with cousins but I find the brother/sister thing bit creepy.
by Anonymous10 years ago
I edited my comment
I personally am okay with cousins too
even first cousins
the risk of deformation for non-related couples is about 3% at the most
now here's a myth buster
deformation with first cousin couples is not as high as people think
it's 4 to 6 %
I draw the line here:
brother/sister/father/mother/(paternal or maternal aunt/uncle) mother-in-law/ father-in-law/grandfather(mother)-in law/milk brother or sister/niece/nephew etc.
by Anonymous10 years ago
That sounds about right. And I also believe that everyone is related. There was something about 1 out of every 200 people are direct descendants of Genghis Khan. To me that seems incredible.
by Anonymous10 years ago
Mr. Khan
not a big fan of him
by Anonymous10 years ago
But you might be his (30th generation) granddaughter
by Anonymous10 years ago
hey
I'm not proud of all the things my family members do
gramps over there could've set a better example though
by Anonymous10 years ago
-- perhaps he was the real source of the "fist of awesome"-- I agree he was a cad.
by Anonymous10 years ago
hey!
don't call my gramps a cad
he had his positive qualities
no one wants to mention the good stuff about him
hmmph
by Anonymous10 years ago
although he did many bad things
he wasn't completely bad
“an action committed in anger is an action doomed to failure.”
― Genghis Khan
did you ever hear of the Mongolian spot?
by Anonymous10 years ago
I don't think I am familiar with that. Khan was actually a pretty amazing guy, for a bully.
by Anonymous10 years ago
are you being sarcastic?
because I've never heard anyone describe him as that
by Anonymous10 years ago
Amazing in the sense of bewildering and complex, or having the ability to fill me with with wonder.
by Anonymous10 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHjY4lSENFg
by Anonymous11 years ago
I felt this fit.
by Anonymous11 years ago
Any sibling-fucking?
by Anonymous11 years ago
Not personally but it happens all the time. There is evidence in Iceland that incest actually strengthens the gene pool.
Some scientist are worried that there is not enough incest anymore because of globalization.
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