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If everyone in the world is considered equally beautiful, then nobody really is.

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ah now this I can agree with

but if someone did have this view
it wouldn't be a bad thing
would it?

just one less divider for the person
allowing for more focus on other aspects

I'm assuming you mean physically beautiful in your post

@Watchful_questioneer Yes, I meant physically beautiful. What view do you mean?

since beauty is subjective
it is very well possible that a person may truly hold the view that everyone is equally beautiful
(at least physically)

and as your posts said
then no one would be beautiful or ugly physically in this person's eyes

this would then allow him/her to focus more on other aspects of a human being
look past the physical
in a way most of us cannot even imagine

Does this mean that there is still hope for me?

So let me get this straight...

If everyone in the world is considered equally existent, then nobody really is.

@VicZinc So let me get this straight... If everyone in the world is considered equally existent, then nobody really is.

I don't think that works because existence is black an white
something either exists or it doesn't
unless I got that wrong wary smilie

beauty is something that is on a spectrum
you're not just ugly or beautiful
you have a mixture of both
you need one to have the other
for comparison

like with short and tall
if everyone was 3 feet tall
no one would be short or tall
there would be no comparison between us

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@1909407

WOAH WOAH WOAH
I didn't even say that first sentence
I don't even know how you got that wary smilie

and honestly
I'm ignorant about the questions you ask

I can have opinions about beauty and ugliness concerning the Creator's creations

God created me
He knows how my mind works
and He knows that I'm going to have certain opinions about His creations just like others will

@fuzala I don't think that works because existence is black an white something either exists or it doesn't unless I got...

Start again..
I say: Either someone is beautiful, or they don't exist. To me it is black or white.

Now, I read your previous answer to the other part. So I assume than that you do no care to hazard a guess as to if your god thinks all his creation is beautiful.

@VicZinc Start again.. I say: Either someone is beautiful, or they don't exist. To me it is black or white. Now, I read...

existence can occur in so many places
like in dreams
or in the imagination
does a child's imaginary friend exist?
of course
in his/her imagination

I'll start again
I think I can agree for the most part that if someone is beautiful he/she exists in that there are varying degrees of beauty in everyone

and for the last part
how could I answer something I'm ignorant about?
it's better to say I don't know than to make any potential wrongful assumptions in this case
don't you think?

@fuzala existence can occur in so many places like in dreams or in the imagination does a child's imaginary friend...

Yes. I agree about being cautious about making these assumptions.

I disagree about the varying degrees. All or nothing.

@VicZinc Yes. I agree about being cautious about making these assumptions. I disagree about the varying degrees. All or...

you don't think someone who is beautiful can have an unpleasing feature (which would be the hint of ugliness)?

@fuzala you don't think someone who is beautiful can have an unpleasing feature (which would be the hint of ugliness)?

Remember, I am a humanist. That's like me asking you if part of your god is ugly. The human form is pleasing to my eye. I do not mean alluring, I mean charming and adorable.

@VicZinc I don't know, never met one.

have you met other humanists?

@fuzala have you met other humanists?

Yes, but none that were also theist

@VicZinc Yes, but none that were also theist

did the ones you meet have the same view of beauty?
all or nothing

@fuzala did the ones you meet have the same view of beauty? all or nothing

The general belief is that each individual has primary responsibility for his/her own welfare and happiness. As such my belief that humans are beautiful makes me happy, ergo it is a good belief. Some other humanist might find delight in ugly - I don't know.

"Do unto others" is another primary belief of humanist (and I believe, all peoples innately know this rule) and as I want others to find me beautiful, I find them that way first.

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