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Instead of importing poverty by granting illegal immigrants amnesty, the US should be focusing on making it easier for skilled people to legally immigrate, amirite?

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The skilled people need to start in their own country to try to make it better. If all the skilled people left a country, how could it ever get better?

I'm the son of an immigrant who was granted amnesty just about 5 years ago. My quality of life increased immensely. My father makes 50k a year and I've been out of high school two years now, I'm halfway through college and I'm working full time making 30k a year. Prior to this my dad made 18k a year supporting a family of four. Speaking from experience, I don't think we would be "importing" poverty. Rather, we're breeding successful tax payers. I know this won't be the case for all, as no plan is perfect. This is just my two cents.

@sestrada16 I'm the son of an immigrant who was granted amnesty just about 5 years ago. My quality of life increased immensely...

You clearly point out a good success story that is done the legal and proper way [you specify granted amnesty]. But what are your views about all those who cross the border and are getting free handouts? Do you think they should be allowed to go to the front of the line without seeking LEGAL citizenship? I live 10 miles from the border and see firsthand on a daily basis what the influx of illegals is doing to our town, state, and country. They are put on food stamps, use the Emergency room for any health needs, work at jobs any American would do but can't at their rate [there are men in my town who will work for $25.00 a DAY]. The children from Mexico walk across the International Bridges [there are several in my area], get on our state school buses and are educated in our schools. We feed them and provide all these services at the taxpayer's expense. And then they find a woman to take up and have a child with, and now we have an "anchor" baby. The mother is automatically put on all governmental assistance (food stamps, housing, WIC), and we cover it all. Many women here STAY pregnant, because for every child they produce, the benefits increase tremendously. The border is wide open and our government has no intentions of closing it.
Undocumented immigrants are NOT paying taxes, and they are flying completely under the radar. Our government does not even know how many are actually here [a general number of 13 million has been thrown around]. Our government does not even want to require or demand picture I.D.'s for any of them.
The state of Arizona tried to take Mexico's law regarding citizenship and implement it straight across. And the fight against them has been unbelievable.
The majority of undocumented immigrants are not going to enjoy a success story. But in the mean time, we are taking away from, and draining the American economy - all because our government refuses to deal with the border issue. America does not have an obligation or requirement to provide a handout to any and all who show up at the doorstep - especially those who refuse to go through the proper channels and play by the same rules we all play by.

@freespeechfreelancer You clearly point out a good success story that is done the legal and proper way [you specify granted amnesty]...

You do know that you can't get government hand-outs while staying an undocumented (illegal) immigrant, no? I agree illegal immigration is a problem. That's why the ones who are here illegally should be documented.

@Frank_n_Furter You do know that you can't get government hand-outs while staying an undocumented (illegal) immigrant, no? I agree...

If that is true, why is the NEW immigration bill that is being considered, specifically including wording that says undocumented immigrants can't get any benefits until they have gone through the full documentation process?
The problem is, they have learned HOW to beat the system, and EVERYONE who is illegal or around it closely KNOWS what is going on. There is the "government's version" and then there is the "street smart version." I live in an area that is 85% Hispanic. So that does not make me an expert, but I SEE and HEAR what is going on every single day. The Hispanics who were born and raised here are mad at the ones who cross the border. They call them "dirty Mexicans" or "wetbacks" and see the abuse and drain on the system. If a person has a REAL job, then taxes are automatically taken out and go back in to the system. The undocumented workers never officially get "hired" as an employee by anyone. They work "under the table" for cash money. Some are paid daily and some weekly. There are men down here where I live who will work for $25.00 a day. See my above comment again. I explain the process of how they work the system. If an undocumented woman has a baby on this side of the border, the baby is an "anchor baby" and automatically qualifies the woman and her guy or group for benefits. The children are the "ticket" and they all know it. Most couples down here have 4-5 children and the woman is pregnant. Basically, the more babies, the bigger and larger benefit package. Many of the men are like "stud" service to keep the women pregnant. A man can have 3 or 4 women, keep all of them pregnant, and float from one place to the next.
So, the whole "freebie" thing is GREAT for them, but totally and completely sucks for every working American. Here is a link that says a little of what I have said. There are other links out there.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a...ot_be_deported

@freespeechfreelancer If that is true, why is the NEW immigration bill that is being considered, specifically including wording that says...

Because they kept that part, duh. If you go to the government to get help, they need your information and it's saved. You literally can't do that without them finding out who you are. Dude, I live by the boarder too, I know how it is. All of the problems are because they are undocumented. By making them documented, the problems that come from them being undocumented go away. I know about anchor babies. By making it easier to come here, women and men would just come here legally instead of using that. Under the table jobs are for more than just illegals. My friend was a run away cuz she broke probation, so obviously she couldn't get a real job. Being undocumented is why they have to work an under the table job, but if they didn't have to work under the table for 25$ a day, most wouldn't. If they were able to become documented, they wouldn't need to have an under the table job, they could get a real one and taxes would be taken out. You seem to not understand that I know undocumented people are a problem. You seem to not understand that if undocumented people are a problem and we can't rid them all from the country, making them documented would mean they would be much more likely to start paying taxes and would be much less likely to take advantage of the system. They would be as likely to do those things as every single other person who was documented, if you'd allow them to get documented.

D.C. seems hell bent on just literally giving this great country away. If Mexico's low wages and policies don't work THERE, why does anyone think they will work HERE?

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