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Pro-Abortion. No one must live. END HUMANITY ONE FETUS AT A TIME

Skr3wBalls avatar Skr3wBall Pro-Abortion +7Reply
@Skr3wBall Pro-Abortion. No one must live. END HUMANITY ONE FETUS AT A TIME

Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

  • Leonard Cohen (from "The Future")
PhilboydStudges avatar PhilboydStudge IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply

I just started thinking about this after watching Sen. Warren talk about Obamacare, even though I'm Canadian. I think that women should have access to birth control and the right to abort.

The little problem I have with abortion is: a person who just has indiscriminate, unprotected sex all the time resulting in unwanted pregnancy, and getting abortion after abortion after abortion etc.. to me seems very wrong. First it's hard on the body. I don't think it necessarily killing an innocent person, but it is trivializing natural procreation and mocking life itself. A person who acts like this just tells me that they are not responsible and should never be caring for another human being. But that's an extreme case. I don't think that funding birth control will turn every woman into an irresponsible person, but it would lessen abortions and a lot of trouble.

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@I just started thinking about this after watching Sen. Warren talk about Obamacare, even though I'm Canadian. I...

Maybe a law be put into effect that if a person gets more than 4 abortions, their tubes should be tied.

I'm still a indifferent on providing half of the population birth control, though. Of course, not all women would choose to take it just because its available but I do believe the demand for it would rise, which would then raise the price of birth control, and since insurance companies would be covering it, the cost of insurance for everyone would rise.

inb4
"abortion post
how original"

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yes
there are probably pro-abortion people out there
I think the one child policy was kinda pro-abortion
sorta

maybe I'm stretching it

okay
yeah
I'm stretching it
but they probably do exist
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anyways
I'm more pro life than pro choice
(I haven't picked a team though
there's so much gray area here)

but I think it is more morally reprehensible to terminate a toddler than it is to terminate say a one month fetus

I don't like that comparison people make by saying
"why don't you go kill a newborn then?"
age really does matter here
and I don't think that question is a good argument

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/heal...perts-say.html

certain experts are saying that it's morally okay to kill newborns
which I thought was severely gross

I mean abortion is one thing
but AFTER BIRTH abortion?

these people are really pushing it
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some may accuse me of falling into the slippery slope fallacy
but I really hope that's not where things are heading

then again
I wouldn't consider abortion "a relatively small first step"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

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that's friggin' infanticide (after birth abortion)
and that crap happens way too much

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply

im really not with it, some people are

slimgs avatar slimg IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply

I'm for keeping abortion legal and safe. I'm also for a woman's right to choose what goes on with her body.

Things start getting shaky when we begin to discuss:
1. When does life really start? Definitely not conception. I had a friend get an evil look because she bought the morning after pill. That's just stupid.
2. If a man doesn't want his partner to have the baby but she does, the man is stuck with child support whether he wants to or not.
3. If a woman wants an abortion but her partner cannot convince her to have the baby, the man has no choice. Not that I'm suggesting the woman should be forced to have the baby strictly because the man wants it, but it just doesn't seem fair that the woman has the choice whether or not to have the kid but the man doesn't have say in either case.

@StickCaveman I'm for keeping abortion legal and safe. I'm also for a woman's right to choose what goes on with her body...

I'd prefer safe ones over the back alley ones
I am still iffy about it though

right to choose what goes on with her body
I get that
but it's to a certain extent

it's not the same thing as getting wisdom teeth removed

it's not as simple as that because the right choose what happens to her body influences another entity

the baby, the fetus, the ball of cells
whatever you wanna call it
it's not hers completely
and that's where the controversy begins in my view

it exists
and to terminate its existence...
I don't understand how people can be so unsympathetic towards it (or treat it like a parasite)
even if it is a ball of cells

why doesn't this ball of cells have any rights?
why doesn't it have the right to continue its existence?

1. Agreed
it is stupid she got an evil look for taking precaution
I made a post about the m.a.p.
http://www.amirite.com/773193-p...ing-after-pill

I don't know when life begins
but existence does start by the time of fertilization

2. agree with the child support too

3. agree again
I think it's unfair to only let the female decide
and not let the partner have any say in the matter

it's his fetus too
he's not giving birth to it
but biologically
it's also his fetus
(I usually root for the person who wants to keep the fetus)

I would probably make an exception if the situation is fatal
and maybe some other potential, extreme cases

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply
@fuzala I'd prefer safe ones over the back alley ones I am still iffy about it though right to choose what goes on with...

Just wondering, if the doctor informed you that your fetus has a high chance of getting a disability or disease (like greater than 70% chance) in early childhood, would you choose an abortion?

@fuzala uhm probably not would you?

Well, no, I'm not a woman. HArHAr
but really, I hate to admit but I would consider it providing my partner wanted to. I just feel like a lot of pain and suffering would come of having a child with a disability. And not only that, but me and my partner would be responsible for caring for them for the rest of our lives and then worrying about who will care for our child once we're gone.

@StickCaveman Well, no, I'm not a woman. HArHAr but really, I hate to admit but I would consider it providing my partner wanted...

you'd probably wanna take into account the severity of the disability/disease

I just realized you didn't mention that in your comment
but I'm assuming you meant some sort of very severe disability/disease

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply
@StickCaveman Oh of course.

I feel like I should explain myself

I said probably not

there's that off chance that all is normal/well
(even with over 70% going in the other direction)

and maybe something does go wrong
but the doc overestimated the severity
and it's not as bad as estimated

the only situation I think I'd actually go through with an abortion would be fatality

everything else: I'd just grin and bear it
there's gotta be something(s) to grin about eventually

and someone once asked me along the lines of
"Would you ever get an abortion for the sake of the fetus?"

you know
so it doesn't have to suffer and whatnot

I don't think I would
my view is that a horrible life is better than no life

since the enjoyment of life is subjective
an outsider may view this kid's life as horrible
but the kid may view it as "WEEEE"

so that's my take on this

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someone even made a post about about aborting my monkey fetus
I said I wouldn't

http://amirite.com/760175-girls...mirite/1918300

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I thought of another layer

what if your partner really wants to keep it?
would you be willing to go through that?

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply
@fuzala I feel like I should explain myself I said probably not there's that off chance that all is normal/well (even...

The kid may view it as "WEEEE". There's no way to tell.

OOOO!!!! A really good book to read: "Stuck in Neutral" by Terry Truman. It's a fiction written in the point of view of a kid with cerebral palsy who can't voluntarily move his body or talk but he's very intelligent. Everyone else thinks he's in pain though. Makes you think...

Anyway, yes, if my partner wants to keep it, I'm not going to tell her not to. If death might be a factor, I will definitely try to persuade her to have an abortion as I would not want to risk losing her, but ultimately the choice is hers.

@StickCaveman The kid may view it as "WEEEE". There's no way to tell. OOOO!!!! A really good book to read: "Stuck in...

I read a similar book
Wonder

Image in content

it's a children's novel though
and the point of view isn't the same

the kid is severely deformed
(Treacher-Collins syndrome)
he's fine mentally though
if I remember correctly

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we can tell just maybe a little bit thanks to behavioral neuroscience (aka biological psychology)
and maybe one day
we'll know a lot more about it

there are certain tests and research with developmental psychology too
where they try to scratch the surface of infant thoughts

the same can be applied to those who have a tough time communicating
at least to some extent I think

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply

Wait, pro-choice is pro-abortion.

@speckleasme Wait, pro-choice is pro-abortion.

some think of pro-abortion as everyone having an abortion when they get pregnant

see Chase's comment for clarification

"Pro-Abortion. No one must live. END HUMANITY ONE FETUS AT A TIME"

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pro choice is seen as life or abortion

pro life is life

pro abortion is abortion

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overlap:
sometimes pro abortion and pro choice can be seen as the same

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply

The best thing you can do if you're against abortion is not have one. jussayin

Anonymous -3Reply
@The best thing you can do if you're against abortion is not have one. jussayin

Right. And if you're against the slaughter of rhinoceros and elephants, don't be a poacher.

PhilboydStudges avatar PhilboydStudge IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- +2Reply
@The best thing you can do if you're against abortion is not have one. jussayin

Unfortunately that's not quite how it works. "Pro-lifers" are about protecting the life of others, not just choosing not to participate in what they consider to be unethical practices.

It's like why some Christians push their beliefs onto others: Because they truly believe that it's their duty on Earth to "save" other non-Christian people from an eternity of fire and brimstone. Simply telling them, "just be a Christian and ignore me," isn't going to make them go away.

@The best thing you can do if you're against abortion is not have one. jussayin

you're forgetting about the ball of cells

it's really not that simple
it's not as if one is getting her wisdom teeth removed
wisdom teeth belong to her completely
they don't have much potential

if it was as simple as you put it
I don't think it would be so hotly debated

it's the ball of cells that makes the topic controversial
I think those balls of cells have rights that teeth kinda don't have

fuzalas avatar fuzala IDK. SO MUCH INNER TURMOIL -eye twitch- 0Reply
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