Contrary to popular belief, not all rap music degrades women and promotes ignorance.
True. I don't listen to much rap, but I've found some things I like not on the radio (the radio is trash).
I think the majority of it is understood and is still crap.
That's if you don't understand the culture behind the music. If you don't understand rap culture or truly analyze what makes it the way it is, you will continue to misunderstand most rap music and only base you opinions off of what you hear on the radio.
And ruined by the bitches and hoes crowd
I know there's good rap out there. I love positive and conscious rap, and that's almost the only type of music I listen to nowadays. My favorite artist is K-Rino, and my favorite song is a song called We Out Here by Akilah Nehanda.
I think a lot of adults misunderstand rap music. A lot of adults judge the whole genre of music as being bad and don't give the lyrics of the good ones a chance to be heard.
Why you disagree then?
Because, I don't misunderstand rap music.
And, also, music is relative to each person. Most of the young generation is in love with rap music, and can relate to some of what's in rap music. So, I feel like there's a connection between rap music and youth, but just a misconnection between rap music and adults.
There's a lot of different types of rap music: educational rap, positive/conscious rap, then there's the rap we hear on the radio, but I think that no matter what type of rap music, it just has a way of connecting with young people. We understand, but the older generations don't.
Yet, you did acknowledge that others do misunderstand it. The post isn't aimed at only your understanding of the genre.
I know. But although others misunderstand it, a large portion of people does understand it. Misunderstood by the older generations, understood by the younger generations. Plus, rap music has been spreading across the globe. Rap music is the sound of young people all over the world.
But... "rap music, as a whole, is misunderstood" by some. You're agreeing with the post regardless of how many people do misunderstand the music :P
Speaking for older generations, or "pre-rap" music lover's, gangsta rap is what comes to mind when we hear the word rap. Hence we look no further at the genre.
If indeed there are songs and lyrics that redeem rap music, then you are both correct in saying that the true nature of SOME rap is misunderstood.
Here's an example of rap that enlightens people.
What is sad to me is that many americans envision this as the appropriate way to run our borders with our neighbors in Mexico.
That is sad.
That link was to a rap that only decried what appeared to be Check Points In middle eastern nations, My guess would be Israel. The rapper appeared to be African American. His demeanor was clearly American. He only complained about Check Points with no acknowledgment or mention of the reason WHY there was a Check Point. I have reason to wonder what he understands about that.
There is nothing in that rap that would even begin to alter my opinion of the genre. Sorry
OK Anisah: I went and listened to your current favorite "We Out Here by Akilah Nehanda" Now I'm with ya again. Thanks to you --- I now have a favorite rap song too.
After listening to Checkpoint for the first time, I had a better understanding and a mental picture of what was going on in that part of the world.
I just discovered this song a few weeks ago. It's not necessarily educational but it's not gangsta rap. It's kind of like a story. Your opinion on it?
As a fan of primarily metal, I surprised myself when I liked a rapper named Greydon Square.
Very complex, very much a story that drew you in to hear the end.
Do you see a major difference with this and the Check Point
Yes, I see a huge difference. In my mind, the two songs are not comparable, because both of the rappers have entirely different styles. If you listen to more of both of them, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Checkpoint is based off of real life circumstances and offers what I believe is an eye-witness account. Most of Jasiri X's songs are like that. He raps about real life events, and his songs are in somewhat of a view of an activist wanting or producing change.
On the other hand, The Maven is a story about a scholarly man who builds a machine that possesses a magnificent level of lyrical skill and talent. K-Rino is more of a lyricist than Jasiri X, and his words flow in a unique manner that many rappers don't possess.
While I agree with your comparison of the technical differences between the two, I am more interested in a comparison if the dark negative focus in the example rap by jasiri X, as it contrasts with the moral and spiritual nature of the example by Maven. I find the former to be repulsive in the way that gangsta rap is, while the later is thoughtful and deep with meaning. Do you see any of that sort of difference?
I kind of see what you mean, and although "Checkpoint" by Jasiri X has a somewhat negative viewpoint, I don't think it's fair to classify it in the same category as gangster rap. I ask you: How could he have made the rap more positive if what is happening is inhumane?
I wrote about conscious music for a newspaper once, and this is how I defined it: "The word “conscious,” according to dictionary.com, means to “be aware of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, or surroundings.” So, conscious music must be music that enlightens one about the world around them, music that causes one to be aware of what's going on, and music that causes one to really think."
According to Merriam Webster, gangster rap is "rap music with lyrics explicitly portraying the violence and drug use of urban gang life and typically expressing hostility toward whites, women, and civil authority."
The song portrays violence, but the rapper himself doesn't portray violence. The people he's rapping about, the soldiers, are portraying the violence. It does express hostility toward the soldiers, but because the soldiers are oppressing people.
I think "Checkpoint" can be considered as conscious rap in the way that it enlightens us a bit about what's happening in places like Palestine and Israel and it causes us to be aware of the treatment people are enduring.
And, I agree. The Maven is thoughtful and deep, and more on the moral and spiritual side than Checkpoint.
Yes I think I see your idea and how conscious sort of fits. I think I'm stuck on the issue that check point is presented from only one perspective, whereas the Israel/Palestine conflict is peppered with injustice and tragedy on both sides and has been for decades. IMO the rapper is pointing at a tiny piece of a very large picture and presenting a oversimplification. As I said earlier, I doubt the rapper has a complete understanding of the issue.
The FCC won't let me be or let me be me so let me see they try to shut me down on MTV but it feels so empty without me.
Any genre of music, anything, is likely to be stereotyped based on what leaves an impression. In many cases, that's what is popular. This is not unique to, nor excluding rap music.
People just call it how they hear it/see it.