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It's as sexist to think a man will rape you as it is racist to think that a black person will rob you, amirite?

Prejudice is prejudice no matter what -ism it is.

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No neither are necessarily sexist nor racist. We can pass a hundred men on the street and not have a reaction of fear. Our minds make instant assessments of strangers based on prior knowledge and prior experiences. We are all to some degree, aware of potential dangers. These are necessary situational judgements that we should ge making. They do not represent anything more.

@Daver No neither are necessarily sexist nor racist. We can pass a hundred men on the street and not have a reaction of...

I understand what you're saying, but if that judgement is made solely on the fact that the person is male or black or whatever, then it is still prejudice.

StickCavemans avatar StickCaveman Yeah You Are +1Reply

Yea, but such a high percentage of rapes are committed by males. To think that, if I am raped, it will likely be by a male, would be quite reasonable. Most robberies are not committed by black people.

@PhilboydStudge Yea, but such a high percentage of rapes are committed by males. To think that, if I am raped, it will likely...

true. but to cross the street to avoid a man is just as messed-up as crossing the street to avoid a person whose skin is a different color than yours. I am sure there are people who avoid all men for fear of being raped, and those people are prejudiced.

VicZincs avatar VicZinc Yeah You Are +2Reply
@VicZinc true. but to cross the street to avoid a man is just as messed-up as crossing the street to avoid a person whose...

No, you're right. Generalizations applied to individuals are unfair and unjust. If someone called me a MF rapist, just because I'm male... that's messed up.

Still, suppose someone is raped and murdered, and there are no leads. I do not think it would be sexist to start with the working assumption that the perpetrator is male. All things being equal, that assumption will be correct over 90% of the time.

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We are not.

Just like we cannot tell who is
a bigot or
a conservative
or a Christian
or a gold digger
or any other unsavory combination
of personality disorders

You cannot tell on sight

You have to meet them in a safe public place
you have to get to know them BEFORE
you place yourself in a position where
sex is an option

I would not find myself alone with anyone
unless I had arranged for that to happen

VicZincs avatar VicZinc Yeah You Are +1Reply
@1993332

Made some changes to your comment...

So how, exactly, are white people meant to determine who is a criminal and who isn't upon sight? And how is white people simply avoiding black people hurting you, anyway?

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StickCavemans avatar StickCaveman Yeah You Are +1Reply
@PhilboydStudge Yea, but such a high percentage of rapes are committed by males. To think that, if I am raped, it will likely...

While many rapists are men, I'm willing to bet that in most populations, very few males are rapists.

Wunderscores avatar Wunderscore Yeah You Are +1Reply
@PhilboydStudge I'd make that same bet.

So it doesn't make sense to think that a man will rape you just because of his sex.

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@Wunderscore Exactly. So why did you disagree with the post?

I understand that most men are not rapists, and that most blacks are not robbers. In that sense then, the one is just as sexist as the other is racist.

However, since raping is such a male-dominated crime, while robbery is not dominated by any one race. In this sense, they do not seem equitable.

@PhilboydStudge I understand that most men are not rapists, and that most blacks are not robbers. In that sense then, the one is...

You make a good point, but just to defend my post... Can you really say rape is a male-dominated crime? Studies get kinda murky with this sort of thing due to factors such as men not reporting their rape or people having different definitions of what exactly 'rape' means.

StickCavemans avatar StickCaveman Yeah You Are +2Reply

Because not all men are rapists and not all black people are thieves, and to state otherwise is simply ignorant.

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@1992385

It's still prejudice. Perhaps this brings up a new argument: Is some prejudice justified?

StickCavemans avatar StickCaveman Yeah You Are +1Reply

I'm really old and wise, and I think this is a very clever and thoughtful comment, especially now, in this rapist and racist culture. Well said. And provacative!

Margaux_Wilders avatar Margaux_Wilder Yeah You Are 0Reply

Men sometimes don't realize they are raping.

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@LRF Men sometimes don't realize they are raping.

Throughout most of the world there is no "sex education" classes.

Even in the western world
this usually means "reproductive education"

What is really needed is "gender education"
a class about communication and understanding
the human mating process

Most people learn about courtship
from TV, porn sites, friends, trial-and-error
How many learn about this in a formal setting?

most people don't have any idea how to:
-give a mating signal, or
-how to recognize one
they tend to mistake natural flirtations as mating signals
because that is what happens on TV and in movies

People tend to think consensual sex is
what they see on porn sites
People tend to think they can get naked
with someone and expect that person to
understand that intercourse is not part of the bargain.
even though that idea was not communicated
neither person has never been taught
to communicate
and so neither knows
what the other's intentions are

90% of rape involves family, friends, and acquaintances
only a small portion is stranger rape

all rape is unacceptable

Society needs to develop a conversation,
and a language for consensual sex
We need to teach young people
what to say, and what to hear
We need to set up guidelines
so that everyone can clearly interpret the mating signals

My opinion is:
-if you change your mind in the middle of a sex act
and the act comes to an immediate end - that is not rape
but if the act continues - it is rape
-if you say no - and the act starts anyways - that is rape
-if you say yes and the act completes but you regret it later - not rape

  • if you are passed out - its rape

When taking drugs or alcohol,
you need to decide beforehand
if you intend is to have sex while intoxicated,
and if it is not,
then you need to make sure you have safeguards in place,
a trusted friend, a ride home, a bodyguard, whatever

When both parties are intoxicated and you did not plan ahead -
you're on your own with that one.

VicZincs avatar VicZinc Yeah You Are +2Reply
@LRF Men sometimes don't realize they are raping.

To expand on that, no one ever realizes they are raping. All unsolicited sexual violence is AN ACCIDENT WHY DOES NO ONE UNDERSTAND

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@1993489

no my penis slipped and accidentally went into some guy's mouth and stayed there until i came you don't get it

no my finger slipped and sent some girl 12,000 unsolicited dick pics

all sexual related acts are accidental and anyone who thinks otherwise needs some reeducation

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